a great deal

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ravenwolf

IT'S SIMPLE AND IT'S LEGAL!!!!!!! I found this on a bulletin board
and decided to try it a little while back; I was browsing through
news groups just as you are right now and came across an article
similar to this saying that you could make thousands of dollars
within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00!! So, I thought
yeah right. This must be a scam, but like most of us, I as curious,
so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send one dollar to each
of the six names and addresses stated in the article. You then delete
the first address and change the numbers. (2 becomes 1, 3 becomes 2,
etc.) Place your own name and address on the bottom of the list at
number 6 and post the article to at least 200 newsgroups. (There are
thousands) No catch that was it. Therefore, after talking to a few
people and thinking it over I decided to try it. What do I have to
lose except 6 stamps and $6.00 right? Then I invested the measly six
dollars. WELL GUESS WHAT!!! Within 7 days, I started getting money in
the mail!!! I was shocked. I though it was going to stop but it just
kept coming. In my first week, I made $25.00. By the end of the
second week, I had $900.00. In the third week, I made $5,000.00!!!
It's still growing right now. This is my fourth week and I have made
a total of just over $38,000.00! Moreover, it's still coming in
rapidly. This is certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps. I have spent
more then that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and
most importantly why it works... Also make sure that you print a copy
of this article NOW so you can get the information off of it, as you
need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly,
that you will start making more money than you possibly thought just
by doing something so easy!! SUGGESTION: READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE
CAREFULLY (Print it out or download it) Follow the simple directions
and watch the money come in! It's easy. It's legal. And your
investment is only $6.00 (plus postage) IMPORTANT: This is not a rip
off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no
risk - it really works!!!!! If all of the following instructions are
adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends. PLEASE NOTE:
please follow these directions exactly and $50,000 or more can be
yours in 20-60 days. This program remains successful because of the
honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its
success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now
become a part of the mail order business. In this business, your
product it not solid and tangible, it's a service. You are in the
business of developing a mailing list. Many large corporations are
happy to pay big bucks for quality list. However, the money made from
the mailing list is secondary to the income, which is made from
people like you and me asking to be included to that list. Here are
the four steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate sheets of paper
write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR
MAILING LIST." Now get 6 US 1 dollar bills and place ONE inside EACH
of the six pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the
envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the
six envelopes and seal them. MAKE SURE THERE ARE ENOUGH STAMPS ON
YOUR ENVELOPES. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a
piece of paper stating the above phrase your name and address and a
$1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS
ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are
paying for it! Like most of us, I was a little skeptical and a little
worried about the legal aspects of it all. So, I checked it out with
the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is
indeed legal!!!!! Mail the six envelopes to the following addresses
..
#1) Rupert Springsteen 2103 E. Pine St. Tucson, AZ 85706

#2) Mark Finch 4909 S. Cherry Ave. Tucson, AZ 85706

#3) Joanty Gomez 6131 South Meade Ave. Chicago, IL 60638

#4) Kasey Nicoletti 127 cherry lane Medford, NY 11763

#5) Alexis Beadles 22310 Audrey, Warren Mi, 48091

#6) Shane MacDonald 502-43 Powell St., Vancouver, BC , Canada, V6A 1E9

STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move
the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR name
as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to but try
to keep this article as original as possible. Now post your amended
article to at least 200 news groups. (I think there are 24,000
groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the
more money you make!! ** EVERYBODY AROUND THE WORLD CAN DO THIS BUT
REMEMBER TO PUT ENOUGH STAMPS ON YOUR ENVELOPES!!!! ** This is
perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to title 18 sec. 1302
& 1341 of the postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for
your self and whenever you need money, you can use it again and
again. PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because
of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by carefully
adhering to the directions. Look at it this way, if you are of
integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many
others have received will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain
every name and address sent to you, on either a computer or a hard
copy and keeps the notes people sent you. This verifies that you are
truly providing a service. (Remember to wrap the $1 bill in the note
to prevent mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the
directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for
their participation as a list developed with one dollar each. Your
name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name
reaches the #1 spot you will be receiving thousands of dollars in
CASH!!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1 for each of the 6
people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and
you're in business! DIRECTIONS: HOW TO POST TO NEWS GROUPS STEP 1:
You do not need to retype this entire letter to do your own posting.
Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag your
cursor to the bottom of this document, and select "copy" from the
edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computers
memory. STEP 2: Open a blank notepad file and place your cursor at
the top of the blank page. From the edit menu, select "paste". This
will paste the copy of the letter into the notepad so you can add
your name to the list. STEP 3: Save your new notepad file as a .txt
file. If you want to do your own postings in different settings,
you'll always have this file to come back to. STEP 4: Use Netscape
and Internet Explorer and try searching for various news groups (on-
line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) STEP 5: Visit
these message boards and post this article as a new message by
highlighting the text of this letter and selecting "paste"from the
edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be the header that everyone
sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular
group, click the post message button. You're done with the first one!
CONGRATULATIONS... THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different
news groups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take
30 seconds for each news group! **REMEMBER THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU
POST IN (MESSAGE BOARDS, ETC...) THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU
HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200. That's it! You will begin receiving
money from around the world within days. You may want to eventually
rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If
you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use as long as
the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE THE ADDRESS IS
CORRECT** Let me break it down, say I receive only 5 replies, so then
I made $5 with my name it number 6 on the letter. Now each of the 5
persons who just sent me $1 made the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with
my name at #5 and only 5 people respond to the original 5 people.
That is another $25 for me. Now those 25 people make the MINIMUM 200
post with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will make $125.
Now, those 125 people post the MINIMUM 200 postings with my name at
#3 and only get 5 replies each, I will make an additional $625! O.k.,
now here's the fun part each of those 625 people post a MINIMUM 200
with my name at #2 and they only get 5 replies they just made me
$3,125!!! Those 3125 people send a MINIMUM 200 posting and they only
get 5 replies each with my name at #1, I will receive $15,625!!! With
an original investment of $6!!! AMAZING!!!! . When your name is no
longer on the list, you just take the latest postings in the news
groups and send out another $6 to names on the list putting yourself
at #6 and start posting again. Thousands of people are joining the
Internet each day and they are reading articles like these just as
you are right now. So this can never be played out just keep it going
and you can make tons of money to!!!! Please try it now and make big
bucks in a few short weeks!!!!!!
 
K

Keith Thompson


<sarcasm>Really? How did you figure it out?</sarcasm>

*Please* don't post followups to spam. Either ignore it or complain
to the poster's service provide. (If you do the latter, be careful;
a lot of spams use a forged return address.)
 
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pete

Keith said:
<sarcasm>Really? How did you figure it out?</sarcasm>

*Please* don't post followups to spam. Either ignore it or complain
to the poster's service provide. (If you do the latter, be careful;
a lot of spams use a forged return address.)

X-Complaints-To: (e-mail address removed)
 
R

Rod Pemberton

Keith Thompson said:
<sarcasm>Really? How did you figure it out?</sarcasm>

*Please* don't post followups to spam. Either ignore it

Good choice.
or complain
to the poster's service provide[sic].

Bad choice.

The ISP can't take any action against the spammer on it's own because it
would result in an "interception" of communications under 18 U.S.C. Section
2510 which is a Federal felony. However, if the 'spammer' is a sufficiently
large nuisance to the ISP, you might be able to persuade the ISP to spend
it's money on attorney fees to sue in court under the CANSPAM act.


Rod Pemberton
 
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Flash Gordon

Rod said:
Keith Thompson said:
<sarcasm>Really? How did you figure it out?</sarcasm>

*Please* don't post followups to spam. Either ignore it

Good choice.
or complain
to the poster's service provide[sic].

Bad choice.

The ISP can't take any action against the spammer on it's own because it
would result in an "interception" of communications under 18 U.S.C. Section
2510 which is a Federal felony.

Not here it wouldn't since USA laws don't apply (yet) in the UK.

In any case, the ISP is quite entitled to terminate service or access to
part of a service. Even in the USA.
> However, if the 'spammer' is a sufficiently
large nuisance to the ISP, you might be able to persuade the ISP to spend
it's money on attorney fees to sue in court under the CANSPAM act.

Just terminating the contract is sufficient.
 
R

Rod Pemberton

Flash Gordon said:
Rod said:
Keith Thompson said:
(e-mail address removed) writes:
SCAMMER
<sarcasm>Really? How did you figure it out?</sarcasm>

*Please* don't post followups to spam. Either ignore it

Good choice.
or complain
to the poster's service provide[sic].

Bad choice.

The ISP can't take any action against the spammer on it's own because it
would result in an "interception" of communications under 18 U.S.C. Section
2510 which is a Federal felony.

Not here it wouldn't since USA laws don't apply (yet) in the UK.

In any case, the ISP is quite entitled to terminate service or access to
part of a service. Even in the USA.

In the USA, the ISP is not "entitled" to terminate anything. It depends on
the contract terms, and whether the judge declares those terms to be valid.
If an ISP terminates a contract without the contractual right to do so, it
is 'breach of contract', even in the UK. In the USA, a judge has the legal
right to nullify any portion of any contract for any reason even if the
contract is 100% legal in the opinions of other judges. However, the judges
usually stick to strict and fair implementation of our laws.

Any high volume broadband access user is likely to have a commercial
contract where his or her terms are more favorable to commercial uses,
including SPAM, of the Internet than an individual or family account. Most
ISPs, that I've used here, have very limited restrictions on usage except
for a clarification on what requires the purchase of commercial account.
They'll usually restrict certain illegal activities, which of course are
already illegal. You can see examples commercial use with the recent
announcements by AOL and Yahoo allowing SPAM from commercial accounts to
bypass email users private filters for a modest fee.


Rod Pemberton
 
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pete

The ISP can't take any action against the spammer on it's
own because it
would result in an "interception" of communications under
18 U.S.C. Section 2510 which is a Federal felony.

Spam is not the main problem with this particular thread.

It's a Ponzi scheme, it's fraud,
and it is illegal in the USA and many other countries.

http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.htm

More recently in October 1997,
the Commission helped coordinate the first
"International Internet Surf Day."
Agencies from 24 countries joined this effort
and targeted "get-rich-quick"
schemes on the Internet, including pyramid schemes.(41)


41. International participants included Australia, Austria, Belgium,
Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Hungary,
Ireland, Jamaica, Japan, Korea, Mexico, New Zealand, Norway,
the Philippines, Poland, Portugal, South Africa, Spain,
Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom.
 
M

Mark McIntyre

Keith Thompson said:
or complain to the poster's service provide[sic].

Bad choice.

The ISP can't take any action against the spammer on it's own

You're completely wrong here - ISPs can simply dump the spammer.
They're under absolutely no obligation to carry his traffic whether
it breaches their AUP or not. They might need to give him notice of
course.
because it
would result in an "interception" of communications under 18 U.S.C. Section
2510 which is a Federal felony. However, if the 'spammer' is a sufficiently
large nuisance to the ISP, you might be able to persuade the ISP to spend
it's money on attorney fees to sue in court under the CANSPAM act.

This is complete garbage.
Mark McIntyre
 
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Mark McIntyre

In the USA, the ISP is not "entitled" to terminate anything.

Oh, don't be fatuous. I've never seen an contract which didn't give
them the right to terminate with notice.
It depends on the contract terms,

Sure.
and whether the judge declares those terms to be valid.

And no judge in his right mind would rule a termination clause
illegal.
Any high volume broadband access user is likely to have a commercial
contract where his or her terms are more favorable to commercial uses,
including SPAM,

Exceptionally unlikely. You really have no clue what you're talking
about.
You can see examples commercial use with the recent
announcements by AOL and Yahoo allowing SPAM from commercial accounts to
bypass email users private filters for a modest fee.

This is a completely different kettle of fish, though I do agree it is
merely a spammer's charter.
Mark McIntyre
 
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Default User

[blither blather]
You're completely wrong here


Why do you keep arguing with this idiot? He's made it clear that he
cares nothing for the newsgroup and is determined to disrupt it. You
are helping.



Brian
 

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