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Travis Newbury

Luigi said:
I do not think that it is really a matter of religious belief.

Then you are dumber than you seem.

Look, if the terrorist dropped all their weapons today, all violence in
the middle east would immediately stop and the forces would all go
home.

If the Jews, and coalition dropped their weapons today, you would see
Israel wiped off the face of the earth.

Hard reality to face
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

"Travis Newbury" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
Luigi said:
I suggest that we go on discussing about it after you have shown that you
know what the word "berbau" means in this context......
I sugest you open your eye to what is happening in the world.

Freedom of speech is very important.
You may think what you want.
Ps.: perhaps you meant "suggest" and not "sugest".
What is your mother tongue?
Are you really an American?
If you are not an American and you have never been an American,
how on earth did you vote for Bush?
I recommend you to read more about Apaches and "Ãœberbau"....
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

Travis Newbury said:
Then you are dumber than you seem.

You may think what you want.
Freedom of speech is very important.
(perhaps not in your country?)
 
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Travis Newbury

Luigi said:
You may think what you want.
Freedom of speech is very important.
(perhaps not in your country?)

Freedom of speach and having blinders on to reality are not mutually
exclusive.
 
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Travis Newbury

Luigi said:
You may think what you want.
Freedom of speech is very important.
(perhaps not in your country?)

So do you agree or disagree with the part of my post you forgot to
quote?
 
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dorayme

"Travis Newbury said:
Then you are dumber than you seem.

I don't think so. His instincts are good. Your's are that of a
dumb cowboy.
Look, if the terrorist dropped all their weapons today, all violence in
the middle east would immediately stop and the forces would all go
home.

If the Jews, and coalition dropped their weapons today, you would see
Israel wiped off the face of the earth.

Hard reality to face

It is a hard reality to understand for you because you are
looking on the surface. But then... when did cowboys read history
or study human nature?
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

Travis Newbury said:
Freedom of speach and having blinders on to reality are not mutually
exclusive.

No, they are not!!!
And, as I said, you may think what you want.......
Have a nice time!!!!!
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

dorayme said:
It is a hard reality to understand for you because you are
looking on the surface.

I share your opinion

But then... when did cowboys read history
or study human nature?


One might argue that the old cowboys could not read much about the Gold Rush
but people living nowadays could read more if they only wanted to....
 
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dorayme

"Luigi Donatello Asero said:
No, they are not!!!
And, as I said, you may think what you want.......
Have a nice time!!!!!

Now now Luigi, don't get all huffy... take your time and pull
this cowboy apart, bit by forensic bit, he will dig the biggest
hole for himself, just like his Dear Leader has done in Iraq.
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

dorayme said:
Now now Luigi, don't get all huffy... take your time and pull
this cowboy apart, bit by forensic bit, he will dig the biggest
hole for himself, just like his Dear Leader has done in Iraq.

As a matter of fact, I woud not be too sure that he is American......
which implies that Bush might not be his leader...
 
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dorayme

"Luigi Donatello Asero said:
As a matter of fact, I woud not be too sure that he is American......
which implies that Bush might not be his leader...

Go back and read the posts. Travis could not be anything but...
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

dorayme said:
Go back and read the posts. Travis could not be anything but...

I have met some people talking about Australian and French people
these days.....
 
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dorayme

You insinuating something Pal?

I wondering Swedish come Mars
[/QUOTE]
What would be the Italian translation of this?

Now how is that for an appropriate background image?

(Hey, Travis, you right-wing-bastard, use the facility on this
website that Luigi has so kindly referenced, to trace your DNA
and if you find you have bits of Native American chromos in you,
perhaps this knowledge will temper your views, see if you can get
your mate Bush to take the tests too.)
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

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Tu insinuando qualcosa amico?
What would be the Italian translation of this?

Io chiedendomi Svedesi venuti Marte
(this is more or less the way Native Americans speak in Italian in movies)

(for I guess that there are Australian people in Sweden but even Swedish
people who read this NG......)
Did you see the film
"Dansar med vargar" (Dance with wolves)
 
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Joel Shepherd

dorayme said:
(Hey, Travis, you right-wing-bastard, use the facility on this
website that Luigi has so kindly referenced, to trace your DNA
and if you find you have bits of Native American chromos in you,
perhaps this knowledge will temper your views, see if you can get
your mate Bush to take the tests too.)

Um. So, could one conclude that the only liberal sorts in Australia are
aborgines or their (even distant) blood relatives?

Um. I think not. :) Why would you suppose it's any different "over
here"?
 
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dorayme

Joel Shepherd said:
Um. So, could one conclude that the only liberal sorts in Australia are
aborgines or their (even distant) blood relatives?

No.
Um. I think not. :) Why would you suppose it's any different "over
here"?

What makes you think I do think this?

Some possibly helpful background:

Our Travis is a unique case and nothing that applies to him
necessarily can be generalised. Pulling Travis' chain must be
regarded as a sport to preserve one's heart. I enjoy beating up
cowboys and it is not necessarily Queensberry rules.

But let us look at the "Queensberry rules of logic" at least, and
notice that your assumptions are a little mistaken, you have
jumped to conclusions that are not right.

If Travis did find that he had genes in him that made him pause
to reflect on his views and soften their hard edges to be more
liberal, it does not follow that all liberals have those genes
nor even that descendants of Ghengis Khan are no-good dumb-ass
right-wing bastards. Nor that he is descended from Ghengis Khan
nor that dorayme is not a fan of a lot of things yanky or a
million other things...

To generalise, it is very hard to get anything to follow from
anything else and this is why successful reasoning can be such a
pleasure. It is the reason for the buzz we get when we work out a
difficult problem. Most solutions to most things are false...
which brings us back to the one-eyed, no-good, quick-draw,
shoot-first and hope-to-god-to-hit-the-target, feel-good, Cowboy
Right.

[btw, none of this applies to William Munny (Unforgiven), Jimmy
Ringo (the Gunfighter) or Preacher (Pale Rider) or Harmonica
(Once Upon a Time in the West) and many other of my favourite
cowpersons]
 

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