[ADVOC] - Tag for Ruby Advocacy Related Topics

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Ilias Lazaridis

may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?

would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.

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Bill Atkins

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Request granted. The community has officially introduced these tags.

Happy?

Bill

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Ilias Lazaridis

Bill said:
Request granted. The community has officially introduced these tags.

Happy?
very.
Bill


may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?

would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.

..
 
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Nikolai Weibull

Ilias Lazaridis, April 19:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?

I thought we were using [ADV] for that, but perhaps it [ADV] actually
stood for advertisement or advice.

Seriously, though, how many of these threads do we get? Perhaps it
would be even better to break up ruby-talk into more mailing-lists,
instead of using a bunch of tags?,
nikolai
 
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Austin Ziegler

may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?

would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.

You can ask.

Doesn't mean you'll get it.

Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
does. I personally don't plan on using such a tag -- if I am
discussing my efforts toward advocating Ruby, I consider that general
interest.

-austin
 
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Ilias Lazaridis

Austin said:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?

would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.

You can ask.

Doesn't mean you'll get it.
obvious

Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
does. I personally don't plan on using such a tag -- if I am
discussing my efforts toward advocating Ruby, I consider that general
interest.

what you consider it is irrelevant.

what readers consider it is relevant.

that's what are tag's for: the reader to decides
 
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Austin Ziegler

what you consider it is irrelevant.

what readers consider it is relevant.

that's what are tag's for: the reader to decides

You misspelled "author". Do get your terminology right -- but you have
a problem with that, don't you?

-austin
 
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Martin Ankerl

Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
what you consider it is irrelevant.

What makes Austin's comment irrelevant? He certainly is a reader. You
have an opinion, he has an opinion. Although you do not share his
opinion, you most certainly have to respect it. You can request whatever
you want, nobody will care because you are not in the position to demand
anything from anyone. In fact, no one is: newsgroups are democracy, not
dictatorship. If you have a suggestion, as you can see it is discussed.
If people like it, it may be used; if not, you have to live with this.

martinus
 
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Dmitry V. Sabanin

may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or
"[ADVO]" or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
Can we please introduce tag [TROLL]?
 
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vruz

may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.

there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this maillist.
they believe you should tag your messages as [ILIAS].

that would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
 
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Nikolai Weibull

Dmitry V. Sabanin, April 19:
Can we please introduce tag [TROLL]?

Yes. Lately it seems that the need for a [TROLL] tag has increased
exponentially with the number of posts originating in .gr and perhaps
a new tag “would increase the informative value and would allow for
easier filteringâ€,
nikolai
 
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Bill Atkins

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How about "[I LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE] Tag for Ruby Advocacy Related Topics" ?

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may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
=20
there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this maillist=
 
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Josef 'Jupp' Schugt

At Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:09:34 +0900,
Ilias said:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or
"[ADVO]" or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?

Problem in all cases is that the initial 'ADV' may result in false UCE
alerts. What about the following?

[R-VOCACY]

This tag avoids the 'ADV' triptychon of the beast, sounds similar to
'advocacy', has the Ruby 'R' and is built in the same way as
ad-vocacy.

Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
 
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Neil Stevens

Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
does. I personally don't plan on using such a tag -- if I am
discussing my efforts toward advocating Ruby, I consider that general
interest.

Some of us just get annoyed at the people who clog us this list with stuff
that has nothing to do with using ruby, or making ruby more useful.

I don't see the value in hyperventilating at every media mention of ruby,
or in various language competitions, or in any other advocacy discussion.

Just keep on using ruby, or making ruby easier to use, and you've done all
you can do.
 
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Ryan Davis

may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.

there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this
maillist.
they believe you should tag your messages as [ILIAS].

that would increase the informative value and would allow easier
filtering.

Likewise, there is another group that believes that nobody should
respond to Ilias at all. It worked for the lispers. I guess this is
another area where the lisp community proves to be years ahead of
everyone else. It only took them from Aug 2002 to Oct 2002 to ignore
him out of the group.

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=group:comp.lang.lisp+author:Ilias
 
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Ilias Lazaridis

Josef said:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or
"[ADVO]" or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?

Problem in all cases is that the initial 'ADV' may result in false
UCE alerts.

I understand.

the would detect "ADVERTISMENT".
What about the following?

[R-VOCACY]

This tag avoids the 'ADV' triptychon of the beast, sounds similar to
'advocacy', has the Ruby 'R' and is built in the same way as
ad-vocacy.

I understand you thought, but it's not selfexplaining.

-

possibly [MEDIA] or [NEWS] is more adequate - normally someone mentions
something from somewhere.
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt

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Ilias Lazaridis

vruz said:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.

there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this maillist.
they believe you should tag your messages as [ILIAS].

that would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.

someone should tell those 'superstars' that my messages are all tagged with:

sender = (e-mail address removed)

..
 
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Ilias Lazaridis

Neil said:
Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
does. I personally don't plan on using such a tag -- if I am
discussing my efforts toward advocating Ruby, I consider that general
interest.

Some of us just get annoyed at the people who clog us this list with stuff
that has nothing to do with using ruby, or making ruby more useful.

I understand your frustration.
I don't see the value in hyperventilating at every media mention of ruby,
or in various language competitions, or in any other advocacy discussion.

but other people see the value in this.

you should tolerate this.

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you wrote "media mention of ruby"

media...
Just keep on using ruby, or making ruby easier to use, and you've done all
you can do.

that's why tag's are for.

to allow people to post (even off-topic "[OT]").

and to allow people to filter.

-

comp.lang.ruby.media = comp.lang.ruby - subject: [MEDIA] ...

-

I like the '[MEDIA]' tag.

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Ryan Davis

vruz said:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or
"[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier
filtering.
there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this
maillist.
they believe you should tag your messages as [ILIAS].
that would increase the informative value and would allow easier
filtering.

someone should tell those 'superstars' that my messages are all tagged
with:
sender = (e-mail address removed)

Yes, but some of us 'superstars' would like to filter out everyone who
responds to you as well. It would increase informative value (by
improving the signal to noise ratio) and allow for easier filtering.
 

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