Amazon: "Practical Django Projects" by James Bennett (June 2008)

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Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

The 1.0 release will be in September.

So what? It's not the version number that matters but features and
stability. It's not uncommon in open source projects to have very usable
software with a version number below 1.0.

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
 
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Fredrik Lundh

Stefan said:
The 1.0 release will be in September.

So? "1.0" will be done then, yes. In what way does that mean that
Django itself isn't ready, in any sane sense of that word?

(For bystanders, Django's 0.91 release in early 1996 was what most
people would have called "1.0". 0.95 was a "2.0" release, and the
upcoming 1.0 release is pretty much a "3.0". Or if you use Micro-
soft's numbering system, 0.91 was "3.0", 0.95 is "5.0" and 1.0 is,
what, "8.0"?)

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Stefan Scholl

Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch said:
So what? It's not the version number that matters but features and
stability. It's not uncommon in open source projects to have very usable
software with a version number below 1.0.

The book is about the development version, which was current at
the time the book was written. See page 4.


Nobody says something about "Book after feature freeze" (or
similar). Instead I get "ignorant statement" and "usable
software".

My conclusion: This book isn't about a stable release and not
about a future stable release. (And even if it was about the last
stable relase, too much has changed and will change until
September 2008. IMHO.)


And by the way: The quote was changed by deleting something on
the same line:

"June 2008 is a bit too early. Django isn't ready."

vs.

"Django isn't ready."
 
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Fredrik Lundh

Stefan said:
And by the way: The quote was changed by deleting something on
the same line:

"June 2008 is a bit too early. Django isn't ready."

vs.

"Django isn't ready."

Is this a language issue? That you meant to write "django 1.0 isn't
done" (as in "completed; finished") but accidentally wrote "django isn't
ready" (where "ready" is usually read as "completely prepared or in fit
condition for immediate action or use")?

(and the "stable release" and "much will change" stuff is pure FUD, of
course. what competing project will I find if I google your name?)

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bruno.desthuilliers

June 2008 is a bit too early. Django isn't ready.

Oh, really ? Too bad. But, wait... If Django isn't ready, what's that
framework I've been using for almost three years now, then ???
 
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Stefan Scholl

Fredrik Lundh said:
(and the "stable release" and "much will change" stuff is pure FUD, of
course. what competing project will I find if I google your name?)

Found something? Maybe this could help me to choose a web
framework.
 
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Bruno Desthuilliers

Torsten Bronger a écrit :
Hallöchen!



Before writing sarcastic comments, reading the thread would be
really polite.

You may not have notice, but applied to a piece of software, "ready" is
usually understood as "ready for production use". Which Django is, and
has been for years now.
 
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Paul Boddie

(and the "stable release" and "much will change" stuff is pure FUD, of
course. what competing project will I find if I google your name?)

That's a bit unfair. Maybe the guy was stung by previous experiences
with books and certain other frameworks. It seems to me that the
Django people have been quite cautious with the APIs and with their
own book, but it isn't as if nothing has been changing with respect to
the APIs and the preferred ways of doing things in Django.

And I have to add that books which refer the reader to various Web
sites in order to find out the status of the code, qualifying the
prose with "by the time you read this", don't give a great impression.
I can't say that the book referenced here does that, although short of
a 1.0 release, I find it unlikely that the author could avoid it.

Paul
 

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