anti-spam measures

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Nigel Wade

You are right that some small mail server cannot do it. But if the major
players jointly agree to enforce something like that then people will have
no choice but to comply. And that is actually what is happening. AOL, MSN,
and Yahoo are joining forces to fight Spam and it will be something like was
described:

http://www.internetweek.com/breakingNews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=9400061

Don't forget that there are thousands and thousands of mail servers out
there not run by any major ISP. Nearly every University and college in the
world have a mail server handling thousands of users, and most large
companies have their own mail servers.

The entire ethos of internal email is that it is co-operative, and runs
according to agreed protocols, not diktats from a small cartel.
 
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Nigel Wade

The entire ethos of internal email is that it is co-operative, and runs
according to agreed protocols, not diktats from a small cartel.

Sorry, that should read Internet mail, not internal mail.
 
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Andrew Thompson

Sorry, that should read Internet mail, not internal mail.

Since you are being precise Nigel, I was
wonderring if you might clarify 'diktats'?

The closest I can guess is 'tattooing of
the male genitals', but I do not quite see
how that relates to the 'small cartel'.. ;-)

[ ..actually, that reminds me of a 'Jamaican' joke. ]
 
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Nigel Wade

Since you are being precise Nigel, I was
wonderring if you might clarify 'diktats'?

It wasn't so much being precise, as a complete change of meaning. With
internal mail you can use whatever protocols you want, but Internet mail
requires you to cooperate with others.
The closest I can guess is 'tattooing of the male genitals',

Put away your slang dictionary...
but I do not quite see
how that relates to the 'small cartel'.. ;-)

[ ..actually, that reminds me of a 'Jamaican' joke. ]

From dictionary.com:

dik·tat,n.

1. A harsh, unilaterally imposed settlement with a defeated party.
2. An authoritative or dogmatic statement or decree.

take meaning 2. What we don't need is a small cartel dictating terms to
the rest of the Internet community.
 
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Andrew Thompson

From dictionary.com:

dik·tat,n. ...
<snip>

Well there ya' go. I learn something new
every day.. some days *two* things. ;-)

[ And no I will not be putting my slang
dictionary away, ..it is too much fun. ]
 
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Dale King

Nigel Wade said:
http://www.internetweek.com/breakingNews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=9400061

Don't forget that there are thousands and thousands of mail servers out
there not run by any major ISP. Nearly every University and college in the
world have a mail server handling thousands of users, and most large
companies have their own mail servers.

I'm not forgetting it at all.
The entire ethos of internal email is that it is co-operative, and runs
according to agreed protocols, not diktats from a small cartel.

I'm only passing on what I heard. It was discussed in this audio interview:
http://itconversations.com/shows/detail151.html. As far as I understand it
the idea is that one of the main points is verifying that if you are sending
a mail to AOL that AOL does checks to see that you as in the computer doing
the sending is really who it says it is. If not then your mail may be
bounced. If you are legitimately sending the mail you will want to change
your set up or else you won't be able to send mail to these systems. But I
am really only talking gross generalizations as I don't know the finer
details.
 

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