Bug Parade Bug 4953793

Discussion in 'Java' started by Michel Joly de Lotbiniere, Nov 30, 2003.

  1. Can anyone suggest how to solve the problem described in the comments
    to that bug?

    Briefly, the present situation is that I cannot install any version of
    the 1.4.2 J2SE SDK on Windows 2000 SP4 (it appeared to work on SP3) so
    that the Java plugin and java[w].exe work on a non-administrative
    account: the applets don't even show on a WWW page, and the JVM launched
    by java[w].exe remains a hidden program (merely present in the task
    list). Eclipse 2.1.x is the only program to appear to work, perhaps
    because it does not use java[w].exe to launch the JVM; Netbeans
    runide.exe uses javaw.exe and so fails.

    Maybe Sun requires a more recent DirectX version than 7.0 (which is the
    included version on Windows 2K). Why would they make it depend on the
    DirectX version, though? Seems like a sure way to break Java.

    So, at the moment I'm still running J2SE 1.3.9, but I'd really like to
    use 1.4.2; I wish I had something like VirtualPC, so I could easily test
    hypotheses by making a separate install system, but I can't.

    Any advice?
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    Michel Joly de Lotbiniere, Nov 30, 2003
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  2. "Michel Joly de Lotbiniere" <> wrote in message
    news:7Icyb.29390$...
    > Can anyone suggest how to solve the problem described in the comments
    > to that bug?
    >
    > Briefly, the present situation is that I cannot install any version of
    > the 1.4.2 J2SE SDK on Windows 2000 SP4 (it appeared to work on SP3)


    Roll-back to SP3?

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  3. Andrew Thompson wrote:
    > "Michel Joly de Lotbiniere" <> wrote in message
    > news:7Icyb.29390$...
    >
    >> Can anyone suggest how to solve the problem described in the comments
    >>to that bug?
    >>
    >>Briefly, the present situation is that I cannot install any version of
    >>the 1.4.2 J2SE SDK on Windows 2000 SP4 (it appeared to work on SP3)

    >
    >
    > Roll-back to SP3?
    >

    I don't want to lose most of the security fixes present in SP4. What I
    may do is restore my system to the pre-SP4 state from tape, check if the
    latest version J2SE 1.4.2 actually works in that configuration, and if
    it does, just apply the security fixes currently available separately
    from SP4. Ouf!

    Or win the lottery and switch to a macintosh...
    Michel Joly de Lotbiniere, Nov 30, 2003
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  4. Michel Joly de Lotbiniere

    Tim Tyler Guest

    Michel Joly de Lotbiniere <> wrote or quoted:

    > Can anyone suggest how to solve the problem described in the comments
    > to that bug?


    What do you make of the Sun evaluation?:

    Please retest the install using Java 1.4.2_02. We discovered a problem on
    our webserver and fixed it. Please confirm your install is now
    successful.

    xxxxx@xxxxx 2003-11-19

    I think the problem is that the user is installing into
    "C:\Programs\Java\SDK\"
    for both 1.4.2 and 1.4.2_01. My guess is that they installed 1.4.2 into
    that directory, and either had a dos-prompt open and the cwd was that
    directory or something else had it locked up. Then they tried to install
    1.4.2_01 into the same directory. We will pop up that message because the
    patcher will fail if it cannot patch the target directory. We should
    either document that users should not install different jre/sdk releases
    over previously installed j2se releases, or we should stop them ahead of
    time when they are choosing the directory.

    xxxxx@xxxxx 2003-11-25
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    Tim Tyler, Dec 1, 2003
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  5. Michel Joly de Lotbiniere

    Michel Guest

    Tim Tyler wrote:

    > Michel Joly de Lotbiniere <> wrote or quoted:
    >
    >
    >> Can anyone suggest how to solve the problem described in the comments
    >>to that bug?

    >
    >
    > What do you make of the Sun evaluation?:
    >

    See my Nov 29 comment on the bug page. I'm suspecting that I have some
    kind of problem with incompatible Window system components (SP4,
    DirectX, who knows?). I probably shouldn't tax Sun with making their
    Windows Java releases so Windows version dependent until I know what's
    really wrong.

    If I find the time, I'll roll back my system partition to the pre-SP4 or
    pre-SP3 days, and see if 1.4.x works.

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    Michel, Dec 2, 2003
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