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The LoxFather
Coming from a VB background, which should .NET language should I
learn....C++ or C Sharp. Is C++ going to be dead soon?
learn....C++ or C Sharp. Is C++ going to be dead soon?
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Pieter Droogendijk
On 9 Aug 2003 02:47:23 -0700
Off Topic.
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.
Off Topic.
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.
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Rolf Magnus
The said:
Ha! Now I also found one, so:
This is an obvious troll. Please ignore it.
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Pieter Droogendijk
Shit yeah, I didn't see the cross-posting. I never do! Thanks.
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pete
The said:
http://www.newtechusa.com/PPI/pressroom.asp#higher
"Humans and higher primates share approximately 97%
of their DNA in common.
Recent research in primate programming suggests computing
is a task that most higher primates can easily perform.
Visual Basic 6.0, was the preferred IDE for the majority
of experiment primate subjects.
Test subjects with the best results were baboons and bonobo apes.
Both primate species demonstrated stressful behaviors
when presented with Java tools and utilities.
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J French
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Razmig K
If you plan to remain in the MS WINDOWS domain and program for that
platform, a transition to C# is a better choice. However, if one sunny
day you'll be considering to program for other platforms ( say
GNU/LINUX systems ), you'll find that your knowledge of C/C++ is a
great help. But, after all, your requirements should provide a hint to
what language and tools you'll need.
Essentially, you'll be using a language and it's standard library + a
foundation library that helps programming for a specific platform (say
Microsoft Foundation Classes MFC for Visual C++ ).
Good luck.
//rk
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Brad Sperry
Malcolm said:
Total nonsense, unless by few days you meant few years. C is CPU
independent, and VB has as much in common with C as a cheeseburger and
coke has to a hot roast dinner with potatoes and red wine.
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Pieter Droogendijk
On 9 Aug 2003 07:31:12 -0700
Don't feed the troll
Don't feed the troll
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J French
On 9 Aug 2003 07:31:12 -0700, (e-mail address removed) (Brad Sperry) wrote:
ANSI 'C' might be hardware independant
- but most libraries are not
And the majority of C programmers can do squat without their libraries
.... of course Windows is a 'Library'
ANSI 'C' might be hardware independant
- but most libraries are not
And the majority of C programmers can do squat without their libraries
.... of course Windows is a 'Library'
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Andre
Stephen said:
That's because VC++ is about C++, not C#. Flip a few pages and have a
look in the 'C# Section'. That's like saying "I can't find anything
about kangaroos in a book about worms"
C# is *not* an interpreted language... it's a compiled language! What
did you think the term "JIT compilation" stood for? Really, where from
do you get your facts? Sesame Street?
C# gives you very good performance - you should know how to use the
language to do the things you want done. Secondly, the next version has
some very neat features, like Generics - that should give a boost to
overall performance. I've heard the next version of CLR has been tuned
for performance. Let's wait and see.
-Andre
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Stephen
That's what I heard *someday* Microsoft promises, C# will have performance.
And in carefully constructed circumstances, sometime in the future,
Microsoft says might even make it be faster than C++ in the same carefully
constructed situation. In the mean time though, it's a Java.
Stephen
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| Stephen wrote:
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| > Learn C/C++. Even Microsoft is waning on the .NET foray. Notice it got
| > dropped from the Windows 2003 Server name. The booklet that came with my
| > VC++ 2002 called .NET a revolution in computing yet the booklet that
came
| > with my VC++ 2003 doesn't hardly mention it and only gives C++ examples.
|
| That's because VC++ is about C++, not C#. Flip a few pages and have a
| look in the 'C# Section'. That's like saying "I can't find anything
| about kangaroos in a book about worms"
|
| > Besides, if need be, you can .NET C++ anyway. C# seem neat, but it is an
| > interpreted language, sort of an enhanced JavaScript, and will have
| > questionable performance.
|
| C# is *not* an interpreted language... it's a compiled language! What
| did you think the term "JIT compilation" stood for? Really, where from
| do you get your facts? Sesame Street?
|
| C# gives you very good performance - you should know how to use the
| language to do the things you want done. Secondly, the next version has
| some very neat features, like Generics - that should give a boost to
| overall performance. I've heard the next version of CLR has been tuned
| for performance. Let's wait and see.
|
| -Andre
|
| >
| > Stephen
| >
| >
| > | > | Coming from a VB background, which should .NET language should I
| > | learn....C++ or C Sharp. Is C++ going to be dead soon?
| >
| >
|
And in carefully constructed circumstances, sometime in the future,
Microsoft says might even make it be faster than C++ in the same carefully
constructed situation. In the mean time though, it's a Java.
Stephen
|
|
| Stephen wrote:
|
| > Learn C/C++. Even Microsoft is waning on the .NET foray. Notice it got
| > dropped from the Windows 2003 Server name. The booklet that came with my
| > VC++ 2002 called .NET a revolution in computing yet the booklet that
came
| > with my VC++ 2003 doesn't hardly mention it and only gives C++ examples.
|
| That's because VC++ is about C++, not C#. Flip a few pages and have a
| look in the 'C# Section'. That's like saying "I can't find anything
| about kangaroos in a book about worms"
|
| > Besides, if need be, you can .NET C++ anyway. C# seem neat, but it is an
| > interpreted language, sort of an enhanced JavaScript, and will have
| > questionable performance.
|
| C# is *not* an interpreted language... it's a compiled language! What
| did you think the term "JIT compilation" stood for? Really, where from
| do you get your facts? Sesame Street?
|
| C# gives you very good performance - you should know how to use the
| language to do the things you want done. Secondly, the next version has
| some very neat features, like Generics - that should give a boost to
| overall performance. I've heard the next version of CLR has been tuned
| for performance. Let's wait and see.
|
| -Andre
|
| >
| > Stephen
| >
| >
| > | > | Coming from a VB background, which should .NET language should I
| > | learn....C++ or C Sharp. Is C++ going to be dead soon?
| >
| >
|
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Walter
Andre said:
The D Programming Language, successor to C/C++, already has generics.
www.digitalmars.com/d/comparison.html
-Walter
www.digitalmars.com
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Andre
In the mean time though, it's a Java.
I completely disagree. For that, you'll have to dig into some
documentation and do some reading.. there are many articles and papers
out there that compare Java and C# in terms of many features and qualities.
-Andre
I completely disagree. For that, you'll have to dig into some
documentation and do some reading.. there are many articles and papers
out there that compare Java and C# in terms of many features and qualities.
-Andre
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Thomas Matthews
Would you please stop posting this question.The said:
You have reworded it, but alas, it is the same and has been dealt
with before.
Search the C++, C and VB newsgroups for messages that are
destined for "rec.woodworking".
If you are going to post again, to the same groups,
please tell us how you are relating the topic to all of the
newsgroups you posted to. I don't see the relationship between
programming and woodworking from your post's content.
{Programming a robotic woodworking machine would be an interesting
concept though.}
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Thomas Matthews
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djinni
What does 'troll' stand for?
-dj
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chris
Not even to the lions? 
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Richard Bos
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Nils Petter Vaskinn
Both. No.
Offtopic in c.l.c
Probably offtopic in c.l.c++
Probably offtopic in c.l.v.b
100% offtopic in rec.photo.equipment.35mm
100% offtopic in rec.woodworking
Troll.
FUT set to alt.dev.null
hth
NPV