Can a base class know if a method has been overridden?

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Ratko a écrit :

> bruno a écrit

s/is/is not/, of course

The second solution works beautifully!

Hem... Almost !-)

Thank you very much.
I was aware that not implementing the onKey method in the first place
is the simplest solution but it's much cleaner to offer the methods in
advance so that the user can see what is possible.

Yeps - a placeholder 'abstract' method with only a docstring. It's a
common pattern in frameworks, but usually it's just an ordinary template
method pattern defaulting to a no-op.

FWIW, if you have several such methods to handle, you can use a more
generic approach:

_handlers = {
'onKey':registerForKeyEvents,
'onClick':registerForMouseEvents,
} # etc

class EventHandler(object):
for _name in _handlers:
exec "%s=lambda self, *args, **kw: pass" % _name

def __new__(cls, *args, **kw):
obj = object.__new__(cls, *args, **kw)
for name, register_func in _handlers.items():
meth = getattr(obj, name)
dummy = getattr(EventHandler, name)
if meth.im_func is not dummy.im_func:
register_func(meth)
return obj


HTH

 

[Ratko]

Hi all,

I was wondering if something like this is possible. Can a base class
somehow know if a certain method has been overridden by the subclass?
I appreciate any ideas.
Thanks,

Ratko

 

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Ratko a écrit :

Hi all,

I was wondering if something like this is possible. Can a base class
somehow know if a certain method has been overridden by the subclass?

If your use case is to make sure a given ('abstract') method has been
overriden, the canonical solution is to raise NotImplementedError in the
base class's implementation, ie:


class Parent(object):
def method(self):
raise NotImplementedError

class GoodGirl(Parent):
def method(self):
print "I'm a good girl"

class BadBoy(Parent):
pass


Else, this may be possible using a custom metaclass (or possibly just
specializing the __new__ method), but there may be better solutions
(depending on what you're really trying to do)..

HTH

 

[Michele Simionato]

Hi all,

I was wondering if something like this is possible. Can a base class
somehow know if a certain method has been overridden by the subclass?
I appreciate any ideas.
Thanks,

Ratko

The first time I used Zope, I immediately had an issue of overriding a
predefined
methods without knowing it (there were 400+ methods inherited from
dozens of base
classes). So I wrote this utility:


def check_if_I_am_overriding_names():
"""Prints a message if we are overriding a name. Useful for
framework
beginners. Example in Zope:
.. check_if_I_am_overriding_names()
.. id = 'pippo'
..
AlreadyDefinedNameWarning: id
"""

def makecls(name, bases, dic):
for nam, val in dic.iteritems():
if nam.endswith("__") or nam == "meta_types":
# ignore redefinitions of special names
# and redefinition of meta_types (for Zope code)
continue
any_base_has_name = [base for base in bases
if hasattr(base, nam)]
if any_base_has_name:
print "AlreadyDefinedNameWarning: " + nam
return type(name, bases, dic)

f = sys._getframe(1)
f.f_locals["__metaclass__"] = makecls

Michele Simionato

 

[Ratko]

If your use case is to make sure a given ('abstract') method has been

overriden, the canonical solution is to raise NotImplementedError in the
base class's implementation

I am not really interested in forcing the subclass to implement a
method. I am interested in knowing *whether* it did implement it or
not.

Else, this may be possible using a custom metaclass (or possibly just
specializing the __new__ method), but there may be better solutions
(depending on what you're really trying to do)..

I have a base class EvtHandler that has methods defined to handle
certain events. You then subclass from EvtHandler and override the
methods for the events you want to receive. If a method has been
overridden, the base class will automatically register for those
events to make sure that they are even delivered to this handler
(which is why I would need to know whether a method has been
overridden or not). Of course, there are other ways of doing this
which would require a bit more work from the subclass... I just
thought this would be a neat "automatic" way of registering for
events.

For example:

class EvtHandler:
def __init__(self):
if onKey is overridden:
register_for_key_events()

def onKey(self):
pass


class MyHandler(EvtHandler):
def onKey(self):
# do something here....

 

[Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch]

I have a base class EvtHandler that has methods defined to handle
certain events. You then subclass from EvtHandler and override the
methods for the events you want to receive. If a method has been
overridden, the base class will automatically register for those
events to make sure that they are even delivered to this handler
(which is why I would need to know whether a method has been
overridden or not). Of course, there are other ways of doing this
which would require a bit more work from the subclass... I just
thought this would be a neat "automatic" way of registering for
events.

For example:

class EvtHandler:
def __init__(self):
if onKey is overridden:
register_for_key_events()

def onKey(self):
pass


class MyHandler(EvtHandler):
def onKey(self):
# do something here....

Maybe "tagging" the original `on_key()`:

class EvtHandler:
def __init__(self):
if not hasattr(self.on_key, 'dummy'):
print 'register_for_key_events()'

def _dummy_handler(self):
pass
_dummy_handler.dummy = True

on_key = _dummy_handler
on_whatever = _dummy_handler


class MyHandler(EvtHandler):
def on_key(self):
print 'Do something...'

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

 

[Chris Mellon]

I am not really interested in forcing the subclass to implement a
method. I am interested in knowing *whether* it did implement it or
not.



I have a base class EvtHandler that has methods defined to handle
certain events. You then subclass from EvtHandler and override the
methods for the events you want to receive. If a method has been
overridden, the base class will automatically register for those
events to make sure that they are even delivered to this handler
(which is why I would need to know whether a method has been
overridden or not). Of course, there are other ways of doing this
which would require a bit more work from the subclass... I just
thought this would be a neat "automatic" way of registering for
events.

For example:

class EvtHandler:
def __init__(self):
if onKey is overridden:
register_for_key_events()

def onKey(self):
pass


class MyHandler(EvtHandler):
def onKey(self):
# do something here....

Clumsy, but it seems to work. Using a sentinel value as Marc Rintsch
suggests might be better:
.... def vMethod(self, x):
.... raise NotImplemented
.... def is_implemented(self, method):
.... if getattr(type(self), method.__name__).im_func is not
method.im_func:
.... return True
.... def otherMethod(self, x):
.... raise NotImplemented
........ def vMethod(self, x):
.... print x
....Traceback (most recent call last):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<input>", line 1, in <module>
File "<input>", line 8, in otherMethod
TypeError: exceptions must be classes, instances, or strings
(deprecated), not NotImplementedType

(Note that I accidentally raised NotImplemented instead of
NotImplementedError, oops.)

 

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Ratko a écrit :

I am not really interested in forcing the subclass to implement a
method. I am interested in knowing *whether* it did implement it or
not.



I have a base class EvtHandler that has methods defined to handle
certain events. You then subclass from EvtHandler and override the
methods for the events you want to receive. If a method has been
overridden, the base class will automatically register for those
events to make sure that they are even delivered to this handler
(which is why I would need to know whether a method has been
overridden or not). Of course, there are other ways of doing this
which would require a bit more work from the subclass... I just
thought this would be a neat "automatic" way of registering for
events.

For example:

class EvtHandler:
def __init__(self):
if onKey is overridden:
register_for_key_events()

def onKey(self):
pass


class MyHandler(EvtHandler):
def onKey(self):
# do something here....

Ok. The simplest solution, then, is simply to not implement the method
in the base class, ie:

class EvtHandler:
def __init__(self):
if hasattr(self, 'onKey'):
register_for_key_events()

#def onKey(self):
# pass


class MyHandler(EvtHandler):
def onKey(self):
# do something here....


Another solution is to compare the functions wrapped by the methods:

class EvtHandler:
def __init__(self):
onKey = getattr(self, 'onKey')
if onKey.im_func is EvtHandler.onKey.im_func:
register_for_key_events()

def onKey(self):
pass


class MyHandler(EvtHandler):
def onKey(self):
# do something here....


HTH

 

[Guest]

What about something like:

class A(object):
def my_method(self):
print "A.my_method"
def call_my_method(self):
if type(self).my_method == A.my_method:
print "Calling base class method."
else:
print "Calling derived class method."
self.my_method()

class B(A):
pass

class C(A):
def my_method(self):
print "C.my_method"

a = A()
b = B()
c = C()

a.call_my_method()
b.call_my_method()
c.call_my_method()


Stéphane

 

[Ratko]

Ok. The simplest solution, then, is simply to not implement the method

in the base class, ie:

class EvtHandler:
def __init__(self):
if hasattr(self, 'onKey'):
register_for_key_events()

#def onKey(self):
# pass

class MyHandler(EvtHandler):
def onKey(self):
# do something here....

Another solution is to compare the functions wrapped by the methods:

class EvtHandler:
def __init__(self):
onKey = getattr(self, 'onKey')
if onKey.im_func is EvtHandler.onKey.im_func:
register_for_key_events()

def onKey(self):
pass

class MyHandler(EvtHandler):
def onKey(self):
# do something here....

HTH

The second solution works beautifully! Thank you very much.
I was aware that not implementing the onKey method in the first place
is the simplest solution but it's much cleaner to offer the methods in
advance so that the user can see what is possible.

Ratko

 

[Ratko]

What about something like:

class A(object):
def my_method(self):
print "A.my_method"
def call_my_method(self):
if type(self).my_method == A.my_method:
print "Calling base class method."
else:
print "Calling derived class method."
self.my_method()

class B(A):
pass

class C(A):
def my_method(self):
print "C.my_method"

a = A()
b = B()
c = C()

a.call_my_method()
b.call_my_method()
c.call_my_method()

Stéphane

I think it would confuse the user to have to call "call_my_method" as
opposed to calling "my_method" directly. The only reason why I wanted
to do this is simplicity, clarity and transparency. Thanks though.
Bruno's solution does exactly what I was looking for.

Ratko

 

[Steven Bethard]

I was wondering if something like this is possible. Can a base class
somehow know if a certain method has been overridden by the subclass?

You can try using the __subclasses__() method on the class::
... for cls in method.im_class.__subclasses__():
... func = cls.__dict__.get(method.__name__)
... if func is not None and func != method.im_func:
... return True
... return False
... ... def foo(self):
... return 'A.foo'
... def bar(self):
... return 'A.bar'
... ... def foo(self):
... return 'B.foo'
... False

Given a method from the base class, is_overridden gets the base class,
and then looks through every subclass of that class. If the function
object for the subclass is ever different from that of the base class,
then the base class's method must have been overridden.

STeVe

 

[Raymond Hettinger]

Hi all,

I was wondering if something like this is possible. Can a base class
somehow know if a certain method has been overridden by the subclass?
I appreciate any ideas.
Thanks,

Ratko

It's not hard. Both bound and unbound methods have an im_func
attribute pointing to the underlying function code. So you can check
for overrides by testing whether the underlying functions are the
same:
def p(self): pass
def q(self): pass

def q(self): pass




Raymond

False