Arne said:
zerg said:
Arne said:
zerg wrote:
Lew wrote:
[snip]
Okay. Which one of you wise guys infected Lew with that Cardassian
aphasia virus? That's two posts like this and counting...
Try and read various other threads.
Why are you being rude to me?
That was not being rude.
Yes, it was. You berated me for not having read something, where that
something was not either the FAQ or the freaking manual.
You also more or less demanded that I do something, without using the
word "please".
You were abrupt, rude, and dismissive.
If you don't have a higher quality reply than "try and do X", in the
future, please don't reply at all to one of my posts.
I gave you some advice that would tell you why those
posts are there.
"Read all 37,000-odd posts in this high traffic newsgroup" is not "some
advice", it's "get the hell out of my hair and quit bothering me" by
other means.
If you're THAT "bothered" by my posts, though, you can always killfile
me. That would be far better behavior than publicly insinuating that I
should have been "paying more attention in class" and far better
behavior than making brusque demands.
(And yes, insisting that I "read various other threads" without
specifying which ones amounts to insisting that I read everything posted
to the group.)
Therefore, you are wrong to criticize me for simply not knowing
something that is a) not obvious, b) not in the newsgroup's FAQ, and c)
not in any of Sun's Java documentation.
P.S. Is it my imagination, or does this newsgroup have SEVERAL people
that are prone to be unfriendly or just plain dismissive towards new
people? I seem to recall Lew behaving towards me in a manner similar to
how you just did, a week or two ago.
Perhaps if someone is impersonating him to make him look like a jackass
in public, their intent is to teach him an object lesson in getting
along with others? Though their methods certainly are deplorable.
Just because you have amassed quite a lot of knowledge about a
particular field does not mean you're God and no longer subject to the
normal rules of politeness and civilized discourse, and that people
should worship at your feet and if you step on them say "Ohh, that feels
good, abuse me some more!" ... and perhaps I'm not the only one to find
this tendency in experts to be somewhat objectionable.
A search of this group for "arne rude" turns up some rather acrimonious
fights that apparently started when you wrote things very similar to
what you did here, and got worse from there when the person you were
rude to objected strenuously enough or outright flamed you. I also
checked out "lew rude" and found somewhat fewer of the same sort of
occurrences. Then it occurred to me that "rude", by itself, would
probably do a good job of identifying people here that have a history of
being rude and getting called on it, since the word isn't used much to
actually discuss Java. Sure enough, though there was some chaff, I found
a short list of names: you, Lew, Andreas Leitgeb, Andrew Thompson, and
one or two others that are known for being abrupt at times, particularly
(but not solely) with newcomers, and for being quick to criticize and
not very diplomatic when you do so.
A random sampling of recent posts purporting to be by the people on this
list shows two of them being apparently impersonated and, in the post
headers that I've now figured out how to examine, called among other
things "arrogant megalomaniacs". They are Lew and Andrew Thompson.
Searching for "arrogant megalomaniac" and some other similar phrases,
and words like "Zionist" found in the impersonator's signature rants,
shows that so far only those two people out of everyone here are getting
this treatment.
And both have been accused of being rude by various people, and in my
judgment, based on the posts that drew those responses (as found via
Google), they actually were rude.
Coincidence? I doubt it. It rather resembles a classic case of "what
goes around, comes around".
The moral here, Arne, being "watch it, or you might be next". (Not a
threat, since it's not me doing it; just a warning.)
After this little bit of "research", I think I'll be taking extra care
to avoid offending people here myself. I know I wouldn't want to be next!