Can HTML Editors change a group of pages?

[John Latter]

Hi,

I'm pretty much of a newbie and was wondering if any HTML editors
could change a number of pages at once - say, if I wanted to change
the background for example?

If so, then I hope HTML-Kit is one cos I downloaded it earlier but
still haven't gotten round to installing it

--

John Latter

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http://members.aol.com/jorolat/sac.html

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

 

[Phrederik]

If you have common code to many pages, use INCLUDES instead of repeating the
code.

If it's just a matter of styling, then use CSS pages on your site.

 

[Toby A Inkster]

I'm pretty much of a newbie and was wondering if any HTML editors
could change a number of pages at once - say, if I wanted to change
the background for example?

This is what CSS is for.

 

[John Latter]

If you have common code to many pages, use INCLUDES instead of repeating the
code.

If it's just a matter of styling, then use CSS pages on your site.

OK Phrederik - I'll look up how to use includes (once this headache
goes away) but because I don't know much at all I think I might give
CSS a miss for the moment (whatever they are). Besides, my isp is AOL
and you can bet your boots they don't allow CSS - or there'll be SOME
complication anyway - thanks again!

--

John Latter

The 'Socially Acceptable Violence' website:
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/sac.html

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

 

[John Latter]

This is what CSS is for.

Good grief - I've just told someone else that I didn't want to bother
with CSS cos I've got enough on my plate trying to understand how
HTML-Kit works. Looks as though I'll have to find out what they/it
are/is!

Basically, I was hoping to find an editor that would let me edit a
site rather than a single page - I feel like I've fallen right into
the deep-end!

Anyway, thanks for the post & info Tony!

--

John Latter

The 'Socially Acceptable Violence' website:
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/sac.html

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

 

[Adrienne]

OK Phrederik - I'll look up how to use includes (once this headache
goes away) but because I don't know much at all I think I might give
CSS a miss for the moment (whatever they are). Besides, my isp is AOL
and you can bet your boots they don't allow CSS - or there'll be SOME
complication anyway - thanks again!

AOL cannot disallow CSS, CSS is a plain text file. CSS is for
presentation. If you want to make the background color on all pages green,
then you would use an external stylesheet and set the background color to
green. Then, if you decided that green wasn't your cup of tea, one change
to the external stylesheet could make it blue, or pink, or cyan or what
have you.

AOL probably does not give you access to Server Side Includes, so you're
going to have to go the preprocessor route if you want to include one file
in another.

 

[Toby A Inkster]

Besides, my isp is AOL
and you can bet your boots they don't allow CSS - or there'll be SOME
complication anyway - thanks again!

AOL allows CSS. You can bet your boots on it.

 

[Big Bill]

Good grief - I've just told someone else that I didn't want to bother
with CSS cos I've got enough on my plate trying to understand how
HTML-Kit works. Looks as though I'll have to find out what they/it
are/is!

Basically, I was hoping to find an editor that would let me edit a
site rather than a single page - I feel like I've fallen right into
the deep-end!

Anyway, thanks for the post & info Tony!

HTML-kit is a bit complex. I've used it for years and there's loads of
it I dunno how to use. I use it mainly for checking my code as it
picks up mistakes I miss. If as it sounds like you're learning then
try arachnaphilia which is free and available all over.

BB
MFW Britpack www.extreme-positioning.co.uk
There is only one war, and it's not the rich against the poor,
the blacks against the whites, the Federation against the Borg,
or the Democrats versus the Republicans. It's those of us who
aren't complete idiots against those of us who are.

 

[John Latter]

AOL cannot disallow CSS, CSS is a plain text file. CSS is for
presentation. If you want to make the background color on all pages green,
then you would use an external stylesheet and set the background color to
green. Then, if you decided that green wasn't your cup of tea, one change
to the external stylesheet could make it blue, or pink, or cyan or what
have you.

'sigh' just shows how much I know! I've been at this for a few hours
now & my eyelids are drooping so I'll leave finding out about CSS 'til
tomorrow.

All in all though, I've now got a pretty good idea about how to
approach what I want to do so I'll have a break & and try and
assimilate some of what I've learned!

John

AOL probably does not give you access to Server Side Includes, so you're
going to have to go the preprocessor route if you want to include one file
in another.

--

John Latter

The 'Socially Acceptable Violence' website:
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/sac.html

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

 

[John Latter]

AOL allows CSS. You can bet your boots on it.

Oh right - ah well, 'til a coupla hours ago I had only ever used
AOLPress so I don't know much about anything. On the other hand, the
info & help from you and others is very much appreciated. I think I've
got enough to be going on with for now - thanks!

--

John Latter

The 'Socially Acceptable Violence' website:
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/sac.html

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

 

[John Latter]

HTML-kit is a bit complex. I've used it for years and there's loads of
it I dunno how to use. I use it mainly for checking my code as it
picks up mistakes I miss. If as it sounds like you're learning then
try arachnaphilia which is free and available all over.

BB

Hi Bill,

I did download Arach. but I thought I would stick with finding out
more about HTML-Kit for a while - I found a plugin for it called
includeHTML which promises to do one of the main things I was looking
for.

One of the things that has surprised me about Kit though, is that
there doesn't seem to be much in the way of templates for tables - but
I'll look again tomorrow (at the moment, what with not knowing much &
everything being new, it seems that everytime I open my mouth I put my
foot in it - I thought "CSS" was some kinda esoteric programming
language!)

John

MFW Britpack www.extreme-positioning.co.uk
There is only one war, and it's not the rich against the poor,
the blacks against the whites, the Federation against the Borg,
or the Democrats versus the Republicans. It's those of us who
aren't complete idiots against those of us who are.

--

John Latter

The 'Socially Acceptable Violence' website:
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/sac.html

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

 

[Phrederik]

Good grief - I've just told someone else that I didn't want to bother
with CSS cos I've got enough on my plate trying to understand how
HTML-Kit works. Looks as though I'll have to find out what they/it
are/is!

Believe me! CSS will save you a LOT of work later on.

 

[e n | c k m a]

I'm pretty much of a newbie and was wondering if any HTML editors
could change a number of pages at once - say, if I wanted to change
the background for example?

I assume you just mean a simple Find & Replace function - if so, editors
like Dreamweaver can do a Site-wide Find & Replace [meaning you can change,
for example, the background code on all pages in the site]. I'm not sure if
HTML-Kit can do that, I've never used it.

But, you really should be using something like CSS.

 

[John Latter]

Subject: Re: Can HTML Editors change a group of pages?

From: "e n | c k m a" (e-mail address removed)
Date: 07/09/2003 03:17 GMT Daylight Time

I'm pretty much of a newbie and was wondering if any HTML editors
could change a number of pages at once - say, if I wanted to change
the background for example?

I assume you just mean a simple Find & Replace function - if so, editors
like Dreamweaver can do a Site-wide Find & Replace [meaning you can change,
for example, the background code on all pages in the site]. I'm not sure if
HTML-Kit can do that, I've never used it.

But, you really should be using something like CSS.

Thanks Bob - its a new day so I'll have a look at CSS (er, anyone got any
links?)

John
Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to
homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

 

[John Latter]

Subject: Re: Can HTML Editors change a group of pages?

From: "Phrederik" [email protected]
Date: 06/09/2003 23:58 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id: <aEt6b.6183$J6.996@pd7tw3no>



Believe me! CSS will save you a LOT of work later on.

Right - I better have a look at it then!

Thanks,

John


Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to
homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

 

[Isofarro]

Believe me! CSS will save you a LOT of work later on.

Why?

 

[Dirk Kruisheer]

I assume you just mean a simple Find & Replace function - if so, editors
like Dreamweaver can do a Site-wide Find & Replace [meaning you can change,
for example, the background code on all pages in the site]. I'm not sure if
HTML-Kit can do that, I've never used it.

For that, the stand-alone function "Replace in Files" at
http://www.emurasoft.com is most useful.

Dirk

 

[John Latter]

I assume you just mean a simple Find & Replace function - if so, editors
like Dreamweaver can do a Site-wide Find & Replace [meaning you can change,
for example, the background code on all pages in the site]. I'm not sure if
HTML-Kit can do that, I've never used it.

For that, the stand-alone function "Replace in Files" at
http://www.emurasoft.com is most useful.

Dirk

Thankyou Dirk - I'll download it and have a look!

--

John Latter

The 'Socially Acceptable Violence' website:
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/sac.html

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

 

[Mark B.]

Oh right - ah well, 'til a coupla hours ago I had only ever used
AOLPress so I don't know much about anything.

That shows. I suggest you do some basic reading about webdesign, HTML
and CSS before you expect others to help you. There is plenty of
information on line (incl. tutors), see below.

html tutorial/references:
http://www.w3.org/
http://www.userdox.com/
http://webtips.dan.info/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/
http://www.htmlcook.com/
http://www.w3schools.com/
http://www.webmonkey.com/
http://www.pagetutor.com/
http://www.htmlprimer.com/
http://www.html-color-codes.com/
http://www.echoecho.com/html.htm
http://www.chami.com/tips/internet/
http://www.vortex-webdesign.com/help
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www.html
http://www.davesite.com/webstation/html/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/faq/html/all.html
http://www.pageresource.com/html/index.html
http://www.htmlhelp.org/design/standards.html
http://www.htmlcenter.com/tutorials/index.cfm
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/html/index.html
http://www.webpageworkshop.co.uk/others/html/html_index

HTML 4.01 Specification:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
how to read the w3c specs
http://www.alistapart.com/stories/readspec/
How to read the HTML DTD
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.3
Standards for HTML Authoring for the World Wide Web
http://www.htmlhelp.org/design/standards.html

HTML Validators:
http://validator.w3.org/
http://valet.htmlhelp.com/
http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/

downloadable tutorial/reference
http://www.ncdesign.org/
http://www.trainingtools.com/
http://www.htmlhelp.org/distribution/
http://www.werbach.com/barebones/download.html

and Brucie again on 7 aug. 2003:

css tutorials and other fun 'n giggly css stuff:
http://www.css.nu/
http://www.mako4css.com/
http://www.richinstyle.com/
http://www.blazonry.com/css/
http://www.w3schools.com/css/
http://www.websitetips.com/css/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/
http://www.pageresource.com/dhtml/indexcss.htm
http://www.climbtothestars.org/coding/cssbasic/
http://www.htmlcenter.com/tutorials/index.cfm/css/
http://www.freewebmastertips.com/php/content.php3?aid=48
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/web/writing_stylesheets.html
http://www.utoronto.ca/ian/books/xhtml2/exerpt/css-4a.html
http://idm.internet.com/articles/200101/csstutorial1a.html
http://www.greytower.net/en/archive/articles/tsutsumi.html
http://www.westciv.com.au/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/
http://webmonkey.com/authoring/stylesheets/tutorials/tutorial1.html

layout examples:
http://www.glish.com/css/
http://www.csszengarden.com/
http://www.wannabegirl.org/css/
http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/
http://www.saila.com/usage/layouts/
http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/
http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~apple77/columns/
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/
http://www.htmler.org/tutorials/3/1.html
http://css.nu/articles/floating-boxes.html
http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/
http://www.roguelibrarian.com/lj/index.html
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssLayouts
http://ecoculture.com/styleguide/r/rollovers.html
http://thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/index.html
http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/

rounded corners:
http://www.albin.net/CSS/roundedCorners/
http://www.webweaver.org/dan/css/corners/
http://www.guyfisher.com/builder/workshop/css/corners/

slants: http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/slantinfo.html
centering: http://stone.thecoreworlds.net/www/centre/
lists: http://www.alistapart.com/stories/taminglists/
pure css menus: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/menus/demo.html

master compatibility charts:
http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/css2tests/intro.html
http://macedition.com/cb/resources/abridgedcsssupport.html
old:
http://www.immix.net/html/CSSGuide.htm
http://devedge.netscape.com/library/xref/2003/css-support/

hiding CSS from crappy browsers:
http://www.ericmeyeroncss.com/bonus/trick-hide.html
http://www.w3development.de/css/hide_css_from_browsers/

css checkers:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/csscheck/

cascading style sheets, level 1 specification
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1.html
cascading style sheets, level 2 specification
http://www.w3.org/tr/rec-css2/cover.html
cascading style sheets, level 2 revision 1 working draft
http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-CSS21-20020802/


Should keep you busy for a while. Have fun.

Mark

 

[John Latter]

That shows. I suggest you do some basic reading about webdesign, HTML
and CSS before you expect others to help you. There is plenty of
information on line (incl. tutors), see below.



and Brucie again on 7 aug. 2003:

css tutorials and other fun 'n giggly css stuff:
http://www.css.nu/
http://www.mako4css.com/
http://www.richinstyle.com/
http://www.blazonry.com/css/
http://www.w3schools.com/css/
http://www.websitetips.com/css/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/
http://www.pageresource.com/dhtml/indexcss.htm
http://www.climbtothestars.org/coding/cssbasic/
http://www.htmlcenter.com/tutorials/index.cfm/css/
http://www.freewebmastertips.com/php/content.php3?aid=48
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/web/writing_stylesheets.html
http://www.utoronto.ca/ian/books/xhtml2/exerpt/css-4a.html
http://idm.internet.com/articles/200101/csstutorial1a.html
http://www.greytower.net/en/archive/articles/tsutsumi.html
http://www.westciv.com.au/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/
http://webmonkey.com/authoring/stylesheets/tutorials/tutorial1.html

layout examples:
http://www.glish.com/css/
http://www.csszengarden.com/
http://www.wannabegirl.org/css/
http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/
http://www.saila.com/usage/layouts/
http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/
http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~apple77/columns/
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/
http://www.htmler.org/tutorials/3/1.html
http://css.nu/articles/floating-boxes.html
http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/
http://www.roguelibrarian.com/lj/index.html
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssLayouts
http://ecoculture.com/styleguide/r/rollovers.html
http://thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/index.html
http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/

rounded corners:
http://www.albin.net/CSS/roundedCorners/
http://www.webweaver.org/dan/css/corners/
http://www.guyfisher.com/builder/workshop/css/corners/

slants: http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/slantinfo.html
centering: http://stone.thecoreworlds.net/www/centre/
lists: http://www.alistapart.com/stories/taminglists/
pure css menus: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/menus/demo.html

master compatibility charts:
http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/css2tests/intro.html
http://macedition.com/cb/resources/abridgedcsssupport.html
old:
http://www.immix.net/html/CSSGuide.htm
http://devedge.netscape.com/library/xref/2003/css-support/

hiding CSS from crappy browsers:
http://www.ericmeyeroncss.com/bonus/trick-hide.html
http://www.w3development.de/css/hide_css_from_browsers/

css checkers:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/csscheck/

cascading style sheets, level 1 specification
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1.html
cascading style sheets, level 2 specification
http://www.w3.org/tr/rec-css2/cover.html
cascading style sheets, level 2 revision 1 working draft
http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-CSS21-20020802/


Should keep you busy for a while. Have fun.

Mark

Thankyou Mark!

('gulp')

John 'faints' ----> 'THUD'

--

John Latter

The 'Socially Acceptable Violence' website:
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/sac.html

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html