Can I develop an interactive site without using any establishedframework?

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tenxian

Is It feasible to develop a Java interactive website without using any
established framework?
 
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Alex.From.Ohio.Java

Is It feasible to develop a Java interactive website without using any
established framework?

Absolutely.
You can even write your own web or application server. I wrote few.

Or use just Application Server (for example Apache Tomcat)
http://tomcat.apache.org/ and use only JSP pages. It's more then
enough to build your own interactive web site.
And it's totally standard and can be used on any standard application
server.
Later you, probably, will include some database (MySql or Derby) then
something extra and then you will, definitely, use some framework at
last. Which will be some kind of plugin for the same Tomcat or
whatever. Like Struts or Spring. Then you will move to the JEE server
like JBoss or Websphere but that's another story even they are fully
compatible with what you already wrote.
And that's the beauty of Java.

Alex.
http://www.myjavaserver.com/~alexfromohio/
 
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Daniel Pitts

tenxian said:
Is It feasible to develop a Java interactive website without using any
established framework?
Yes, it is "feasible", but a significant amount of work.

The frameworks are there to do all of the difficult, tedious, and boring
parts of developing an interactive website.

You're question is a bit like asking "is it feasible to build a chair
with only carving knives?". Yes, but why not use the tools that exist
for it :)
 
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tenxian

Yes, it is "feasible", but a significant amount of work.

The frameworks are there to do all of the difficult, tedious, and boring
parts of developing an interactive website.

You're question is a bit like asking "is it feasible to build a chair
with only carving knives?". Yes, but why not use the tools that exist
for it :)

What if the requirements are very special, or even very strange$B!)(B I'm
afraid maybe the existing frameworks can't help a lot. Further more, I
have to study frameworks before I use them.
 
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Roedy Green

Is It feasible to develop a Java interactive website without using any
established framework?

I do it without ANY Servlets at all. On mindprod.com I use Applets,
Java Webstart and static macros, that get expanded just prior to
upload. The user does not interact with the server however, just the
Applets and JWS.
 
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Arne Vajhøj

tenxian said:
Is It feasible to develop a Java interactive website without using any
established framework?

You can easily develop an application using only the
libraries required by the Java EE spec and therefore
available in the app server.

You may benefit from adding a few extra frameworks,
but the benefits of doing so are not big with newer
Java EE version that includes JSF and JPA.

Arne
 
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Arne Vajhøj

Arne said:
You can easily develop an application using only the
libraries required by the Java EE spec and therefore
available in the app server.

You may benefit from adding a few extra frameworks,
but the benefits of doing so are not big with newer
Java EE version that includes JSF and JPA.

log4j and Spring were good candidates to check out.

Arne
 

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