Clojure vs Java speed (was: Alternatives to C)

[Lew]

Listen up, f**kface. I have personally written number-crunching Clojure
code and measured its performance. You are asking me to disbelieve the
evidence of my own eyes, just because your faith asserts that I can't
possibly have seen what I've seen.

I think we're done here. Not only are you clearly irrational, but you've
managed to frustrate me enough for me to use a cuss word.

Oh, and your fingers just happened to type it because you don't have the
courtesy or self-control not to do it?

You are a troll and you are plonked.

This is it. You basically just called me a liar there. I think I'm done
trying to reason with you. I judge that your reputation as a troll is

He doesn't have that reputation, but you sure do.

Buh-bye, troll.

well-deserved. (Note that I had ignored that until now, choosing to base
my opinion upon evidence rather than hearsay. That is the difference
between us. But now that enough evidence is in, I find myself agreeing
with the hearsay. Funny, that.)
Troll.

You have lost.

It ain't a contest, troll.

Plonk. You nasty piece of work.

 

[Oxide Scrubber]

Get off your high horse.

Plonk.

Jon Harrop is well known in cll as a troll, and a quick google shows
that you have made your fair of trollish posts in cljp.

 

[Arved Sandstrom]

Plonk.

Jon Harrop is well known in cll as a troll, and a quick google shows
that you have made your fair of trollish posts in cljp.

Harrop isn't a true troll. I run across his posts in a number of NGs I
subscribe to, and it might be more accurate to say that he'll make you
painstakingly prove your point. No question but that he's an OCaml/F#
zealot, but I've seen him operate in threads on comp.lang.haskell -
evidently trying to get things done in Haskell - without being an ass.

With respect to c.l.j.p, he clearly isn't overly fond of Java or the
JVM, but a lot of the people I see attempting to debate the guy on
Java/JVM topics seem to be pretty fluffy knowledge-wise (and what's
worse, they apparently don't know crap about other languages or the
CLR), so if they come off bruised that's no fault but their own.

AHS