Charlie Gordon said:
I think you are mistaken: you attract flak not because of the number of
corrections you feel the need to make,
Did you feel the need to reply in that way? Or did you just reply in that
way? It is possible to reply in a particular way without "feeling a need",
is it not?
but because of the tone you use
Check out Jacob Navia's tone some time - the tone he uses when he's wrong
but thinks he's right (which is most of the time).
and the extra judgmental remarks you keep adding.
It didn't start out that way - and by the way, they're not intended to be
judgemental. All the behaviour they describe can be corrected, if Mr Navia
so chooses.
Your typical "corrections"
too many times contain derogatory tone and allusions for Jacob Navia,
Let's see, shall we?
such as:
"I see no value in attempting to educate you"
What is Jacob Navia's learning percentage? How much of what we teach him
about C does he actually take in and absorb and act upon? I'm not saying
it's zero, but I would suspect it's not far above it. Therefore, I see no
value in attempting to educate him. This is not an allusion. It is not
even derogatory. It is simply a statement of fact (which, I might add, is
taken out of context - it is almost certainly the case that I said the
above in a context such as "but in case anyone else was misled by your
claim, I would point out the fact that..." or something like that).
"you appear to be incapable of holding a rational debate"
Again, this appears to me to be true. Have you any counter-examples?
"I cannot take seriously the views on C of a man who, it is evident from
his own postings, knows so little about the language"
Again, this appears to me to be true. Charlie, he's been getting this stuff
wrong for *years*.
"You need to learn to tell right from wrong. For the past few years, you
appear to have got them mixed up with monotonous regularity"
Again, this appears to me to be true. He seems to have things exactly the
wrong way round on so many issues. Have you any counter-examples?
"I've explained this before in clc, but Mr Navia obviously can't remember
that far back..."
If he could, he'd have got it right.
"I know from experience that Mr Navia rarely if ever bothers to listen to
good advice"
Again, absolutely true.
"you are wrong - as usual"
And again.
"are all Frenchmen so wilfully ignorant ..."
Context: "Just out of curiosity: are all Frenchmen so wilfully ignorant as
to drop honorifics from names (as you habitually do), or is it just you
giving your countrymen a bad name?" It seems to me to be a fair question.
I agree that Jacob makes mistakes, and gets carried away with baseless
allusions and misused irony,
Lots and lots of mistakes, *despite continued corrections*. Did you mean
"baseless allegations"? Because that's certainly the case. As for his
"irony", it is beyond parody.
but both of you need to cool down and use
better manners for this group's sake.
I think you need to get off my back about this, Charlie. If you want to
criticise anyone about manners, you're looking in the wrong direction.