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Whitecrest
ok, that could explain the difference in experience.
Sorry, my site validates and works fine if you turn on Javascript.
Bummer you want to (or have to) limit your experience. But to each
his/her own.
ok, that could explain the difference in experience.
Sorry, my site validates and works fine if you turn on Javascript.
Bummer you want to (or have to) limit your experience. But to each
his/her own.
G
Grunff
Whitecrest said:
Not on my browser it doesn't. I didn't set out to test the site,
all I did was open up in my default, Moz 1.4 - and got no
navigation. Clicking the links does nothing. JS is on. I'm
assuming the links are supposed to do something.
Perhaps you should consider a "best viewed with IE" logo?
Validation isn't and never has been the be-all and end-all. You
can get anything, no matter how bad to validate.
I don't consider using Moz limiting my experience. Pity you want
to limit your user base for no good reason. None of what I saw
on that site can't be chieved with html/css.
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Whitecrest
Get a better browser
Well in this case it obviously has.
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Bill
Thank Adrienne,
I did present BADLY. Sorry!
I have leaned from the -ve feedback and now am looking for a way that gives
the people the CHOICE of whether they want a freebie or not (in exchange for
e-mail address and receiving more - usually an information newsletter.) The
last thing I want is to be annoying. One of my marketing mentors says: "Be
a welcome guest - not an unwanted pest!".
Anyone got suggestions?
Thank you.
Bill
I did present BADLY. Sorry!
I have leaned from the -ve feedback and now am looking for a way that gives
the people the CHOICE of whether they want a freebie or not (in exchange for
e-mail address and receiving more - usually an information newsletter.) The
last thing I want is to be annoying. One of my marketing mentors says: "Be
a welcome guest - not an unwanted pest!".
Anyone got suggestions?
Thank you.
Bill
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Bill
Wasn't me Robert
I only JUST signed up!
btw - How do I get posts 1 week old please?
Bill
I only JUST signed up!
btw - How do I get posts 1 week old please?
Bill
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Mark Parnell
Sometime around Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:53:37 +0800, Bill is reported to have
stated:
Yes. Don't post upside down.
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
As for what you meant to ask, it depends what you are actually trying to
achieve. You haven't really given us any idea as to what you want to do.
You mentioned something about a freebie - can you elaborate?
From what you are saying, what about a simple form at the side of the page,
where they can sign up for your newsletter and get a free widget (or
whatever) in return?
stated:
Yes. Don't post upside down.
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
As for what you meant to ask, it depends what you are actually trying to
achieve. You haven't really given us any idea as to what you want to do.
You mentioned something about a freebie - can you elaborate?
From what you are saying, what about a simple form at the side of the page,
where they can sign up for your newsletter and get a free widget (or
whatever) in return?
M
Mark Parnell
Sometime around Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:56:41 +0800, Bill is reported to have
stated:
Then now would be a good time to read the FAQ.
http://www.html-faq.com
http://www.allmyfaqs.com
Google is your friend.
http://groups.google.com
stated:
Then now would be a good time to read the FAQ.
http://www.html-faq.com
http://www.allmyfaqs.com
Google is your friend.
http://groups.google.com
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Bill
Thank you Mark
Mark Parnell said:Sometime around Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:56:41 +0800, Bill is reported to have
stated:
Then now would be a good time to read the FAQ.
http://www.html-faq.com
http://www.allmyfaqs.com
Google is your friend.
http://groups.google.com
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Bill
Mark Parnell said:
Mark,
Thank you - I will post after quote from now on!
Google Toolbar (and others) have popups disabled by default.
Many users don't have the sophistocation to disable it, even if there's a
free e-book or subscription to something they are interested in. As Google
is a market leader, I expect MOST will follow suit. That is, the day of the
popups will fade into the sunset! (Do I hear a cyber-HURRAH!) Therefore,
I was thinking that a variation on a js menu script with a fill in form may
be the answer. The .gif etc says "FREEBIE HERE". If people want it they
can get it! In usual marketing form, it is freebie in exchange for e-mail
address, not to be on-sold.
Hmm - I've seen that now I come to think of it - frames with a little
'subscribe' or 'freebie' at the left. It's probably the simplest elegant
solution, even if it does take up 3cm of the page, which I was hoping to
avoid.
Bill
(Australian in Malaysia)
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Bill
Bill said:
When I posted the 1st time, my ISP sent a message saying:
We have detected your attempt to post an article using an invalid or
forged email address: ......... for newsgroups: etc
The article was rejected.
I therefore expected that the post did not appear.
I asked someone else how to access posts over a week old.
They directed me to Google for groups which I have never used before.
Much to my astonishment, it has come up on Google.
ie. it WAS me but I didn't know it!
Life is full of surprises!
Bill
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Kevin Scholl
Whitecrest said:
Actually, Whitecrest, the problem IS in your Javascript code. You
reference the 'frames' as an object of the document:
document.frames["ContentFrame"]
when 'frames' are a window object (including iframes). In your
scripting, the instances of 'document.frames...' should be
'window.frames...'.
Not really. The fact that Mozilla and (in my case) Firebird do not
understand incorrect code is not what I would call limiting. In fact, it
is precisely this attention to detail (and the integrated Javascript
console) that allows for thorough debugging.
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Bill
By the way, anyone wanting to e-mail me, the e-mail address given is
disused.
It gets so much spam I no longer use it.
I hope no-one has tried to e-mail me personally
Bill
disused.
It gets so much spam I no longer use it.
I hope no-one has tried to e-mail me personally
Bill
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Adrienne
Please stay away from frames. You can make a little form on the page that
just asks for an email address. That form can post to another page that
upon submission goes back to the originating page.
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Bill
Adrienne said:
Thanks Adrian,
I think that's a far better approach.
Bill
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SeeSchloss
Whitecrest said:
Doesn't work for me either, with Mozilla Firebird. Same with Konqueror
and Galeon (and Links...). Can you tell me another browser for Linux ?
Using Windows to have IE and see your website would probably limit my
experience more than using Firebird...
By the way, even your page who says that frames are not supported uses
Javascript... don't you think that browsers that don't supporte frames
are not very likely to support javascript ?
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Blinky the Shark
Leslie said:
Please note that I do not subscribe to the ideas that I'm about to pass
along, but here are two beliefs that came up in another group, about the
phone spammers' responses to the DNC registry: 1) they think that many
of the registrants aren't saying they *will not buy* from telemarketers,
only that they don't want to be called; and/or 2) they think that some
of the registrants have registered because they consider themselves *too
weak* to resist the pitches, and they want to not be tempted.
G
Grunff
Whitecrest said:
Rrriiiight....
Great attitude. Whenever someone tells you your site doesn't
work, it has to be their fault/their browser - because your site
is perfect (after all, it does validate!). The html may
validate, but the javascript doesn't conform to any recognised
standard.
Since you're forcing the user to rely on this javascript for the
most basic site navigation, you should at least make sure it can
be uderstood by their browsers.
My God - we wouldn't ever put a site live before testing it
across 3 platforms and a dozen browsers. And we don't even use
javascript for navigation!
T
Toby A Inkster
SeeSchloss said:
(non-Firebird) Mozilla, Lynx, Opera, Dillo, Epiphany, Nautilus, Netscape,
eLinks, Amaya, Mosaic, HotJava, w3m?
(Note: I haven't tested the site in question in any of those browsers, I'm
just answering the request to name some.)
S
SeeSchloss
Toby said:
OK, I did not want to mention every browser (though I also tried
Nautilus, non-Firebird Mozilla, Netscape and even Amaya and w3m), but
apart from Opera, there are very few chances that these browsers
understand this code anyway... in fact it is probably IE-only.
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Whitecrest
Made the change, thanks.
Actually referring back to a previous post as to why Firebird and others
will never take over IE. One of the main reason is that it will not run
Javascript and the DOM that will run in IE. If an IE user who visits a
site, that uses some of this code (document.frame), then switched to
Mozilla, the page will not work right. Which means (to the user) that
Mozzila is broke because it can not run a web page that runs fine in IE.
Even though Mozilla is RIGHT, it makes no difference to the user. The
web page that worked in IE no longer works in Mozila. They go back to
IE which worked (albeit for the wrong reasons) So if 80%+ of your users
use IE, the page had better work right in it.
But this is neither here nor there, thanks for seeing the code error in
my script.