designing to fit into screen resolution

[Blinky the Shark]

What someone's attitude has to do with web design?

It determines how they design it; it determines how they defend it's
inferior parts.

And what is wrong with my attitude?

See above. Ditto for your other questions, below.

That I have an opinion different of the majority?
Have I insulted anyone in here? Was rude? Indicatre where and whom and I
appologise.
For the moment the picture is exactly reverse. Several people here including
yourself are trying to harass me.
Be advised that I am not harassable -this probably will save your time

I had no intention of responding to you any more than with my first and
only prior message. With this post I have exceeded that, and shall not
bother myself with you any further.

 

[aa]

Good Luck! Come back when you are interested in learning about designing
web pages...

I was interested to learn a particular trick about web-design, and I got an
answer here.
When I need more will I certainly remember your invitation.
Thank you, Jonathan

 

[Rik]

What someone's attitude has to do with web design?
And what is wrong with my attitude?
That I have an opinion different of the majority?
Have I insulted anyone in here? Was rude? Indicatre where and whom
and I appologise.
For the moment the picture is exactly reverse. Several people here
including yourself are trying to harass me.
Be advised that I am not harassable -this probably will save your
time

Asking a group of (possibly semi- or pseudo-)experts and/or professionals
for something inadequate and broken tends to get on their nerves

-"Hello mister Postman, can you deliver this to the wrong adress please?"
-"Hello mister Singer, would you mind singing out of key?"
-"No,no, mister Carpenter, my table should be wobbly, that's what I'm
accustomed to."

 

[aa]

It determines how they design it; it determines how they defend it's
inferior parts.

So far no one gave me a chance to defend anything. For no one did not say
what exactly is inferior.
You, in particular, made no meaningful comments, but plenty of moralizing.
Labour division should be walcomed

 

[aa]

Asking a group of (possibly semi- or pseudo-)experts and/or professionals
for something inadequate and broken tends to get on their nerves

If an expert or professional is pissed off, he will just go away and ignore
the subject.This is Internet and nobody forces you to read things which get
on you nerves unless you enjoy gettting nerved
pseudo-experts usually do exactly what they are doing here in the last 5
posts. Note that playing these words here are those who contributed nothing
to the Thread. Those who contributed, they are not here long ago.
I would like to use this opportunity to thank everyone who replied
constructively

 

[the red dot]

I was interested to learn a particular trick about web-design, and I got an
answer here.
When I need more will I certainly remember your invitation.
Thank you, Jonathan

why learn the trick when you can learn how not to need the trick? what
happens when/if you suddenly find that a decent (financially worthwhile)
amount of customers have started using firefox or are using macs etc, what
then, will you be back here asking for more tricks when you could save
yourself the time and learn how to do it properly, right here, and right
now, as they say?

 

[the red dot]

Excuse me, but I am not engaged in emulating paper on the web for I see no
point in such an exercise.
I guess this is a wrong approach practiced by old farts trying to find a
place in new reality. I hope you are not one of these.
I believe webdesign is for people not burdened with useless habits

designing for the web is a useless habit?

 

[Andy Dingley]

I would like to use this opportunity to thank everyone who replied
constructively

Don't thank them, just pay attention.

 

[Rik]

If an expert or professional is pissed off, he will just go away and
ignore the subject.

Some people just care too much

This is Internet and nobody forces you to read
things which get on you nerves unless you enjoy gettting nerved

Or one believes in the well intentions of people and in a possibly better
world, if only they knew. *swooning*

pseudo-experts usually do exactly what they are doing here in the
last 5 posts. Note that playing these words here are those who
contributed nothing to the Thread.

Yup, as soon as I saw "automatically fit into the resolution set on a
particalar Windows installation", I instantly decided against being a part
of it.

I would like to use this opportunity to thank everyone who replied
constructively

Glad to see it doesn't affect good manners

 

[aa]

"Rik" <[email protected]> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
Yup, as soon as I saw "automatically fit into the resolution set on a

particalar Windows installation", I instantly decided against being a part
of it.

Very sad when one could not resist temptation to go against his own wise
decision

 

[aa]

Don't thank them, just pay attention.

This is exactly what I did: not a single one went without my reply.
Though not all of them I am using, they all are copied into a folder on my
local machine so that no good effort was wasted
I needed an urgent fix for what I have for the moment and had no time to
implement otherwise useful suggestions which will be taken into account for
the next version

 

[Rik]

"Rik" <[email protected]> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ: Yup, as soon as I saw "automatically fit into the resolution set on a
Very sad when one could not resist temptation to go against his own
wise decision

Touché, but then again this thread had gone just slightly offtopic, so all
bets are off

 

[Chaddy2222]

One can draw the line quite broadly if one designs with foresite and
understanding of the medium. Web pages are, by nature, flexible. That's
just the way it is. That being so you can either deny it and pretend it
isn't so, or understand it and learn how to work with it, not against
it.

The Web is Not Paper! Anyone who designs as if it is is doing what
radio producers did in the 1950s when they moved over to TV. They
assumed that what worked on radio would work on TV. As anyone who has
watched any 1950's TV shows lately knows, they were wrong, and their
work suffered accordingly.

Anyone who doesn't understand the differences between the web and paper
is in the position of someone in the 1960s trying to produce a TV show
based on his knowledge of radio.

The web provides suitable tools for designing pages that work with the
medium, and anyone who doesn't learn them is just plain living in the
past. Such questions as "what resolution should I design to?" are just
evidence that the questioner has no understanding of the medium.

Don't design for *any* resolution, design for them *all*. Tools are
available to make a web page work on all of them, and those who don't
learn them and use them are rapidly going to be obsolete.

What a dam good post.

 

[Chaddy2222]

Excuse me, but I am not engaged in emulating paper on the web for I see no
point in such an exercise.

That was not his point!!

I guess this is a wrong approach practiced by old farts trying to find a
place in new reality. I hope you are not one of these.
I believe webdesign is for people not burdened with useless habits

As I said, that was not the point.
If you do not understand how the medium works, then how the hell do you
expect to design for it?.
That would be like someone building a house without a clue of what
comes first.

 

[Chaddy2222]

This phrase has already been repeated here many times and add nothing new
If you are constructive, be more specific

Oh OK then.

Your site looks like a steaming pile of shit!!!
What with the jarring blue BG and that anoying sound playing
constently.
Frankly, I have noticed sites made by 11 year old school kiddies that
would piss all over your site from 500 miles away.

If you just find pleasure in harassing - be my guest

He wasn't picking on you at all. Might I kindly suggest that you remove
both of your thumbs from your arse and stop talking shit. (now can we
get on with helping people who actually give a stuff about how their
sites work)?

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

aa
wrote:

That was not his point!!

Thanks for the defense, Chad, but it is not necessary. He is missing the
point because he is clueless to his problem. Not worth the effort to
explain or get upset about because he is either unable or unwilling to
learn something. His diligence on preserving his ignorance will be
rewarding is the success or lack there of with his site. Time to move on.

 

[dorayme]

Oh OK then.

Your site looks like a steaming pile of shit!!!

C'mon guys... ease up a bit... this feller is not that bad, you
are pushing him into a corner and he is likely to say things that
he would not say or mean with gentler treatment.

 

[Chaddy2222]

Thanks for the defense, Chad, but it is not necessary. He is missing the
point because he is clueless to his problem. Not worth the effort to
explain or get upset about because he is either unable or unwilling to
learn something. His diligence on preserving his ignorance will be
rewarding is the success or lack there of with his site. Time to move on.

Yes, I could not agree more.
Besides, if I flame him anymore there's a fare chance i'll probly just
get kill filed.
I really don't think I would want that.

 

[Andy Dingley]

This is exactly what I did:

No, you studiously ignored all the correct advice you were given, then
went off on one about defending your own misunderstandings.

Your site remains ugly and unusable, the consensus is now that you're a
clue-proof idiot. Enjoy.

 

[aa]

Your site remains ugly and unusable, the consensus is now that you're a

clue-proof idiot. Enjoy.

This makes about a dozen of you.
So many people pretending to be The Cream of the NG collected together to
join that much efforts to press a single miserable "clue-proof idiot" for
the second day in a row? You made my thread a champion for number of hate
posts, and the Server might go overheated
Boys, you might be genious HTML coders, but socially you might want
psycological help.
This is not the first NG I use, and I watched a number of conflicts here and
there, but for the first time I come acress a bunch of people so aggressive
for no obvious reason.
I wonder if handling HTML can affect mental conditions?