Do U use >>>>>perl -e 'use re debug;/REGEX/' so U can help??

Discussion in 'Perl Misc' started by robertospara, Nov 20, 2006.

  1. robertospara

    robertospara Guest

    Hi.
    I am involved in work under project that will visualize the process of
    matching the regex to input text.
    As data to highlight sub-regexes which take a part in each step of
    matching I want to use perl debugger output from regex compilation (
    perl -e '-re debug; $text =~/regex/'). In the doc file perldebguts is
    very less information about subregexes position in regex that are
    already use in matching process. If someone every wanted to do that
    could have said the same. My question: Eny ideas to get out from
    debugger output elements that I could highlight in each step to
    visualize matching process.

    My last idea was that I could take from offsets (look in perldebguts if
    don't know what I mean) the position where sub-regex is ending for
    example :

    my_regex == son((mother)?father*)+daughter

    | | |

    13 20 22
    So positions 13, 20, 22 I receive from debugger. Then I should write
    parser of my regex to get positions :
    - beginning of sub-regex "(mother)?"
    - beginning of sub-regex "father*"
    - beginning of sub-regex "((mother)?father*)+".

    I don't see for now any other way. Any clues nice welcome. Best regards.
    robertospara, Nov 20, 2006
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  2. robertospara

    robertospara Guest

    Secret of offsets:
    A(BC?(DE)*)+F - sample of regex
    | | |

    Comment: Offsets include information about fingered ends of the
    sub-regexen, as U can see above:

    Offsets: [29]
    1[1] 0[0] 12[1] 0[0] 2[1] 0[0] 3[1] 0[0] 5[1] 0[0] 4[1] 0[0]
    10[1] 0[0] 6[1] 0[0] 7[2] 0[0] 9[1] 0[0] 10[0] 10[0]
    + ( ?
    C * (
    %%%%%% %%%%%%
    %%%%%

    11[1] 0[0] 12[0] 12[0] 13[1] 0[0] 14[0]

    t.b.c. but about beginnings too but in reverse queue. So firse
    end of su-regex ( with additional quantifier ), then later first next
    not-null, this one is the beginning of this sub-regex.
    In this way that I would like to show above with bushes of %%%%%
    precentages.

    So if the first offset or first not-null from left is like position[
    length] and position >1 so this is
    offset that tells about position of the end of firs subregex in global
    regex.
    So next not-null after this is the position of the begining of this
    sub-regex. Mostly position of
    the beginning of global regex.

    Ad. I made this "perl -e 'use re debug;/A(BC?(DE)*)+F/'".
    So compiled regex looks like this:
    Compiling REx `A(BC?(DE)*)+F'
    size 29 Got 236 bytes for offset annotations.
    first at 1
    1: EXACT <A>(3)
    3: CURLYX[0] {1,32767}(26)
    5: OPEN1(7)
    7: EXACT <B>(9)
    9: CURLY {0,1}(13)
    11: EXACT <C>(0)
    13: CURLYM[2] {0,32767}(23)
    17: EXACT <DE>(21)
    21: SUCCEED(0)
    22: NOTHING(23)
    23: CLOSE1(25)
    25: WHILEM[1/2](0)
    26: NOTHING(27)
    27: EXACT <F>(29)
    29: END(0)
    anchored "AB" at 0 floating "F" at 2..2147483647 (checking anchored)
    minlen 3

    On 20 Lis, 04:09, "robertospara" <> wrote:
    > Hi.
    > I am involved in work under project that will visualize the process of
    > matching the regex to input text.
    > As data to highlight sub-regexes which take a part in each step of
    > matching I want to use perl debugger output from regex compilation (
    > perl -e '-re debug; $text =~/regex/'). In the doc file perldebguts is
    > very less information about subregexes position in regex that are
    > already use in matching process. If someone every wanted to do that
    > could have said the same. My question: Eny ideas to get out from
    > debugger output elements that I could highlight in each step to
    > visualize matching process.
    >
    > My last idea was that I could take from offsets (look in perldebguts if
    > don't know what I mean) the position where sub-regex is ending for
    > example :
    >
    > my_regex == son((mother)?father*)+daughter
    >
    > | | |
    >
    > 13 20 22
    > So positions 13, 20, 22 I receive from debugger. Then I should write
    > parser of my regex to get positions :
    > - beginning of sub-regex "(mother)?"
    > - beginning of sub-regex "father*"
    > - beginning of sub-regex "((mother)?father*)+".
    >
    > I don't see for now any other way. Any clues nice welcome. Best regards.
    robertospara, Nov 20, 2006
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  3. robertospara

    robertospara Guest

    So MONKS OF THE PERL
    ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    Are you still
    ALIVE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    On 20 Lis, 04:28, "robertospara" <> wrote:
    > Secret of offsets:
    > A(BC?(DE)*)+F - sample of regex
    > | | |
    >
    > Comment: Offsets include information about fingered ends of the
    > sub-regexen, as U can see above:
    >
    > Offsets: [29]
    > 1[1] 0[0] 12[1] 0[0] 2[1] 0[0] 3[1] 0[0] 5[1] 0[0] 4[1] 0[0]
    > 10[1] 0[0] 6[1] 0[0] 7[2] 0[0] 9[1] 0[0] 10[0] 10[0]
    > + ( ?
    > C * (
    > %%%%%% %%%%%%
    > %%%%%
    >
    > 11[1] 0[0] 12[0] 12[0] 13[1] 0[0] 14[0]
    >
    > t.b.c. but about beginnings too but in reverse queue. So firse
    > end of su-regex ( with additional quantifier ), then later first next
    > not-null, this one is the beginning of this sub-regex.
    > In this way that I would like to show above with bushes of %%%%%
    > precentages.
    >
    > So if the first offset or first not-null from left is like position[
    > length] and position >1 so this is
    > offset that tells about position of the end of firs subregex in global
    > regex.
    > So next not-null after this is the position of the begining of this
    > sub-regex. Mostly position of
    > the beginning of global regex.
    >
    > Ad. I made this "perl -e 'use re debug;/A(BC?(DE)*)+F/'".
    > So compiled regex looks like this:
    > Compiling REx `A(BC?(DE)*)+F'
    > size 29 Got 236 bytes for offset annotations.
    > first at 1
    > 1: EXACT <A>(3)
    > 3: CURLYX[0] {1,32767}(26)
    > 5: OPEN1(7)
    > 7: EXACT <B>(9)
    > 9: CURLY {0,1}(13)
    > 11: EXACT <C>(0)
    > 13: CURLYM[2] {0,32767}(23)
    > 17: EXACT <DE>(21)
    > 21: SUCCEED(0)
    > 22: NOTHING(23)
    > 23: CLOSE1(25)
    > 25: WHILEM[1/2](0)
    > 26: NOTHING(27)
    > 27: EXACT <F>(29)
    > 29: END(0)
    > anchored "AB" at 0 floating "F" at 2..2147483647 (checking anchored)
    > minlen 3
    >
    > On 20 Lis, 04:09, "robertospara" <> wrote:
    >
    > > Hi.
    > > I am involved in work under project that will visualize the process of
    > > matching the regex to input text.
    > > As data to highlight sub-regexes which take a part in each step of
    > > matching I want to use perl debugger output from regex compilation (
    > > perl -e '-re debug; $text =~/regex/'). In the doc file perldebguts is
    > > very less information about subregexes position in regex that are
    > > already use in matching process. If someone every wanted to do that
    > > could have said the same. My question: Eny ideas to get out from
    > > debugger output elements that I could highlight in each step to
    > > visualize matching process.

    >
    > > My last idea was that I could take from offsets (look in perldebguts if
    > > don't know what I mean) the position where sub-regex is ending for
    > > example :

    >
    > > my_regex == son((mother)?father*)+daughter

    >
    > > | | |

    >
    > > 13 20 22
    > > So positions 13, 20, 22 I receive from debugger. Then I should write
    > > parser of my regex to get positions :
    > > - beginning of sub-regex "(mother)?"
    > > - beginning of sub-regex "father*"
    > > - beginning of sub-regex "((mother)?father*)+".

    >
    > > I don't see for now any other way. Any clues nice welcome. Best regards.
    robertospara, Nov 20, 2006
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    Mirco Wahab Guest

    robertospara schrieb:
    > I am involved in work under project that will visualize the process of
    > matching the regex to input text.
    > As data to highlight sub-regexes which take a part in each step of
    > matching I want to use perl debugger output from regex compilation (
    > perl -e '-re debug; $text =~/regex/'). In the doc file perldebguts is
    > very less information about subregexes position in regex that are
    > already use in matching process. If someone every wanted to do that
    > could have said the same. My question: Eny ideas to get out from
    > debugger output elements that I could highlight in each step to
    > visualize matching process.
    >
    > My last idea was that I could take from offsets (look in perldebguts if
    > don't know what I mean) the position where sub-regex is ending for
    > example :
    >
    > my_regex == son((mother)?father*)+daughter


    I don't really understand what your goal is here -
    and I'm none of the gurus, but I find that question
    interesting.

    What I guess what you want is to trace the
    Regex evaluation, sth. like
    - find the match
    - find the part of the regex that made the match

    If thats so, it'll be rather simple. Use code
    assertions for that, eg.
    you have a string:

    my $text = 'mother and father have a son and a daughter';

    and a regex:

    my $regex = qr/(mother|father)?.*?(son|daughter)/;

    and want to match sth. like:

    $text =~ /$regex/g;

    To know what happens upon the evaluations,
    just print out the steps:

    ...
    my $text = 'mother and father have a son and a daughter';

    my $rg = qr'(mother|father)? (?{ print "\t\t(mother|father) matches: $& \n" })
    .*? (?{ print "\t\t.*? matches: $& \n" })
    (son|daughter) (?{ print "\t\t(son|daughter) matches: $& \n" })
    'x;


    print "@{[ $text =~ m/$rg/g ]}";
    ...

    Maybe what you really want is much more complicated,
    but don't miss the modules YAPE::Regex::Explain and
    GraphViz::Regex in addidtion to your

    $> perl -Mre=debug mysource.pl


    Regards

    Mirco
    Mirco Wahab, Nov 20, 2006
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  5. robertospara

    Mirco Wahab Guest

    robertospara wrote:

    > I am involved in work under project that will visualize the process of
    > matching the regex to input text.
    > As data to highlight sub-regexes which take a part in each step of
    > matching I want to use perl debugger output from regex compilation (
    > perl -e '-re debug; $text =~/regex/'). In the doc file perldebguts is
    > very less information about subregexes position in regex that are
    > already use in matching process. If someone every wanted to do that
    > could have said the same. My question: Eny ideas to get out from
    > debugger output elements that I could highlight in each step to
    > visualize matching process.
    >
    > My last idea was that I could take from offsets (look in perldebguts if
    > don't know what I mean) the position where sub-regex is ending for
    > example :
    >
    > my_regex == son((mother)?father*)+daughter


    I don't really understand what your goal is here -
    and I'm none of the gurus, but I find that question
    interesting.

    What I guess what you want is to trace the
    Regex evaluation, sth. like
    - find the match
    - find the part of the regex that made the match

    If thats so, it'll be rather simple. Use code
    assertions for that, eg.
    you have a string:

    my $text = 'mother and father have a son and a daughter';

    and a regex:

    my $regex = qr/(mother|father)?.*?(son|daughter)/;

    and want to match sth. like:

    $text =~ /$regex/g;

    To know what happens upon the evaluations,
    just print out the steps:

    ...
    my $text = 'mother and father have a son and a daughter';

    my $rg = qr'(mother|father)? (?{ print "\t\t(mother|father) matches:", substr($text,$-[1],$+[1]-$-[1]), "\n" })
    .*? (?{ print "\t\t.*? matches: $& \n" })
    (son|daughter) (?{ print "\t\t(son|daughter) matches:", substr($text,$-[2],$+[2]-$-[2]), "\n" })
    'x;

    print "@{[ $text =~ m/$rg/g ]}";
    ...

    Maybe what you really want is much more complicated,
    but don't miss the modules YAPE::Regex::Explain and
    GraphViz::Regex in addidtion to your

    $> perl -Mre=debug mysource.pl


    Regards

    Mirco
    Mirco Wahab, Nov 20, 2006
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  6. robertospara

    robertospara Guest

    my $text = 'mother and father have a son and a daughter';
    >
    > my $rg = qr'(mother|father)? (?{ print "\t\t(mother|father) matches:", substr($text,$-[1],$+[1]-$-[1]), "\n" })
    > .*? (?{ print "\t\t.*? matches: $& \n" })
    > (son|daughter) (?{ print "\t\t(son|daughter) matches:", substr($text,$-[2],$+[2]-$-[2]), "\n" })
    > 'x;
    >
    > print "@{[ $text =~ m/$rg/g ]}";


    You almost understand what I want to do.
    That what U did is made by you with hands and head. I want to do
    something like this automaticlly.
    My input will be >>>>>text<<< and >>>regex<<< and in third window I
    will have
    debugger output with many colors and blinking stuff <<<like underlined
    text resizing text , rotating,
    moving, animated text, blare comments>>> and clouds appearing and
    explaining
    whatever should be explained TO SHOW PROCESS OF MATCHING ANY REGEX TO
    ANY TEXT
    WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFO. ABOUT REGEXEN AND NFA
    (NondeterministicFiniteAutomat) and optimalizator work description and
    clues to efectivly change regex. I will use GTK2-Perl support for
    GRAPHICAL stuff.
    And I'm writing it in PErl.
    Thanks for informations.
    U are the first person who reply. Thanks very much.



    On 20 Lis, 10:43, Mirco Wahab <> wrote:
    > robertospara wrote: > I am involved in work under project that will visualize the process of
    > > matching the regex to input text.
    > > As data to highlight sub-regexes which take a part in each step of
    > > matching I want to use perl debugger output from regex compilation (
    > > perl -e '-re debug; $text =~/regex/'). In the doc file perldebguts is
    > > very less information about subregexes position in regex that are
    > > already use in matching process. If someone every wanted to do that
    > > could have said the same. My question: Eny ideas to get out from
    > > debugger output elements that I could highlight in each step to
    > > visualize matching process.
    > >
    > > My last idea was that I could take from offsets (look in perldebguts if
    > > don't know what I mean) the position where sub-regex is ending for
    > > example :
    > >
    > > my_regex == son((mother)?father*)+daughter

    >
    > I don't really understand what your goal is here -
    > and I'm none of the gurus, but I find that question
    > interesting.
    >
    > What I guess what you want is to trace the
    > Regex evaluation, sth. like
    > - find the match
    > - find the part of the regex that made the match
    >
    > If thats so, it'll be rather simple. Use code
    > assertions for that, eg.
    > you have a string:
    >
    > my $text = 'mother and father have a son and a daughter';
    >
    > and a regex:
    >
    > my $regex = qr/(mother|father)?.*?(son|daughter)/;
    >
    > and want to match sth. like:
    >
    > $text =~ /$regex/g;
    >
    > To know what happens upon the evaluations,
    > just print out the steps:
    >
    > ...
    > my $text = 'mother and father have a son and a daughter';
    >
    > my $rg = qr'(mother|father)? (?{ print "\t\t(mother|father) matches:", substr($text,$-[1],$+[1]-$-[1]), "\n" })
    > .*? (?{ print "\t\t.*? matches: $& \n" })
    > (son|daughter) (?{ print "\t\t(son|daughter) matches:", substr($text,$-[2],$+[2]-$-[2]), "\n" })
    > 'x;
    >
    > print "@{[ $text =~ m/$rg/g ]}";
    > ...
    >
    > Maybe what you really want is much more complicated,
    > but don't miss the modules YAPE::Regex::Explain and
    > GraphViz::Regex in addidtion to your
    >
    > $> perl -Mre=debug mysource.pl
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Mirco
    robertospara, Nov 20, 2006
    #6
  7. robertospara wrote:
    > So MONKS OF THE PERL
    > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    > Are you still
    > ALIVE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


    Would you mind
    - not top posting?
    - not full quoting?
    - repairing your keyboard?

    jue
    Jürgen Exner, Nov 20, 2006
    #7
  8. robertospara

    robertospara Guest

    Don't piss me off Deutche Jurgen ...
    On 20 Lis, 14:35, "Jürgen Exner" <> wrote:
    > robertospara wrote:
    > > So MONKS OF THE PERL
    > > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    > > Are you still
    > > ALIVE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Wouldyou mind

    > - not top posting?
    > - not full quoting?
    > - repairing your keyboard?
    >
    > jue
    robertospara, Nov 20, 2006
    #8
  9. robertospara <> wrote:
    >
    > Don't piss me off Deutche Jurgen ...



    You have pissed off many of us, so take it like a man.


    > On 20 Lis, 14:35, "Jürgen Exner" <> wrote:
    >> robertospara wrote:
    >> > So MONKS OF THE PERL
    >> > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    >> > Are you still
    >> > ALIVE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Would you mind

    >> - not top posting?
    >> - not full quoting?
    >> - repairing your keyboard?
    >>
    >> jue

    >



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    Perl programming
    Fort Worth, Texas
    Tad McClellan, Nov 21, 2006
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  10. robertospara

    robertospara Guest

    Maybe someone had to move to think your old brains:):):):):)
    hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehhhheheh
    Tad McClellan napisa³(a):
    > robertospara <> wrote:
    > >
    > > Don't piss me off Deutche Jurgen ...

    >
    >
    > You have pissed off many of us, so take it like a man.
    >
    >
    > > On 20 Lis, 14:35, "Jürgen Exner" <> wrote:
    > >> robertospara wrote:
    > >> > So MONKS OF THE PERL
    > >> > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    > >> > Are you still
    > >> > ALIVE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Would you mind
    > >> - not top posting?
    > >> - not full quoting?
    > >> - repairing your keyboard?
    > >>
    > >> jue

    > >

    >
    >
    > --
    > Tad McClellan SGML consulting
    > Perl programming
    > Fort Worth, Texas
    robertospara, Nov 21, 2006
    #10
  11. >>>>> "robertospara" == robertospara <> writes:

    robertospara> So MONKS OF THE PERL ? [snip 44 redundant question
    robertospara> marks] Are you still ALIVE? [snip 50 redundant
    robertospara> question marks]

    You're behaving like a twit, and so most of the knowledgeable Perl
    posters have added you to their kill files. If you want to remedy
    this, as much as it can be remedied, you can start by doing the things
    Juergen has suggested -- not top posting, not full-quoting, and not
    using ridiculous strings of question marks or other punctuation -- and
    by reading the Posting Guidelines that are posted here twice a week
    and following the advice in them.

    If you don't, you're likely to be completely ignored except by trolls
    and idiots, and you won't get any useful help here.

    Charlton



    --
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    Charlton Wilbur, Nov 22, 2006
    #11
  12. robertospara

    robertospara Guest

    Really
    ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    On 22 Lis, 19:15, Charlton Wilbur <> wrote:
    > >>>>> "robertospara" == robertospara <> writes: robertospara> So MONKS OF THE PERL ? [snip 44 redundant question

    > robertospara> marks] Are you still ALIVE? [snip 50 redundant
    > robertospara> question marks]
    >
    > You're behaving like a twit, and so most of the knowledgeable Perl
    > posters have added you to their kill files. If you want to remedy
    > this, as much as it can be remedied, you can start by doing the things
    > Juergen has suggested -- not top posting, not full-quoting, and not
    > using ridiculous strings of question marks or other punctuation -- and
    > by reading the Posting Guidelines that are posted here twice a week
    > and following the advice in them.
    >
    > If you don't, you're likely to be completely ignored except by trolls
    > and idiots, and you won't get any useful help here.
    >
    > Charlton
    >
    > --
    > Charlton Wilbur
    >
    robertospara, Dec 3, 2006
    #12
  13. robertospara

    Ted Zlatanov Guest

    On 3 Dec 2006, wrote:

    > Really
    > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


    My 3-year old daughter is already outgrowing this stage--she now
    realizes that deliberately doing the wrong thing is not funny and only
    annoys adults. Good luck Roberto, you can do it!

    Ted
    Ted Zlatanov, Dec 5, 2006
    #13
  14. robertospara

    robertospara Guest

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    On 3 Gru, 09:22, Sherm Pendley <> wrote:
    > "robertospara" <> writes:Upside-down.
    >
    > > On 22 Lis, 19:15, Charlton Wilbur <> wrote:
    > >> >>>>> "robertospara" == robertospara <> writes: robertospara> So MONKS OF THE PERL ? [snip 44 redundant question
    > >> robertospara> marks] Are you still ALIVE? [snip 50 redundant
    > >> robertospara> question marks]

    >
    > >> You're behaving like a twit, and so most of the knowledgeable Perl
    > >> posters have added you to their kill files. If you want to remedy
    > >> this, as much as it can be remedied, you can start by doing the things
    > >> Juergen has suggested -- not top posting, not full-quoting, and not
    > >> using ridiculous strings of question marks or other punctuation -- and
    > >> by reading the Posting Guidelines that are posted here twice a week
    > >> and following the advice in them.

    >
    > > Really
    > > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Yes - really.

    >
    > It may have been accidental before, but this time your misbehavior was
    > deliberate. Welcome to my killfile, twit.
    >
    > *plonk*
    >
    > sherm--
    >
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    robertospara, Dec 10, 2006
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    robertospara Guest

    May I get to know her?

    On 5 Gru, 02:31, Ted Zlatanov <> wrote:
    > On 3 Dec 2006, wrote:
    >
    > > Really
    > > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????My 3-year old daughter is already outgrowing this stage--she now

    > realizes that deliberately doing the wrong thing is not funny and only
    > annoys adults. Good luck Roberto, you can do it!
    >
    > Ted
    robertospara, Dec 10, 2006
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