Dude?

[Robert Dober]

Dear native speakers

I have been quite bothered with the usage of the word "dude" recently.
Not that I dislike the word itself but I feel it should be reserved to
friends using it in a quite informal context.
Am I wrong and do I have to adapt or is there some kind of agreement
with my POV?

And sorry if you think this kind of netiquette question is OT.

Thanks in advantage
Robert

 

[Robert Dober]

Thanks in advantage
advance LOL

 

[Michael Fellinger]

Dear native speakers

I have been quite bothered with the usage of the word "dude" recently.
Not that I dislike the word itself but I feel it should be reserved to
friends using it in a quite informal context.
Am I wrong and do I have to adapt or is there some kind of agreement
with my POV?

And sorry if you think this kind of netiquette question is OT.

Well, I'm no native speaker myself, but I'm pretty certain that you
can just do following, really simple

def dudify(context)
context.send('dude')
rescue NoMethodError
def context.dude
''
end
end

Now, everytime you are unsure if your context replies well to dude,
you can just dudify it beforehand, and everytime you send another dude
it will just blank it out.
Of course you could use a polite version for special occasions:

def dudify(context)
return if context.respond_to?dude)
def context.dude
''
end
end

But if you are frequenting rubyist circles then it shouldn't be any
problem to just rely on duck typing and stop worrying.

Hope that clarifies things a little,
^ manveru

 

[Marc Heiler]

But if you are frequenting rubyist circles then it shouldn't be any

problem to just rely on duck typing and stop worrying.

Can a duck be dudified whilte it types strongly?

 

[ThoML]

Can a duck be dudified whilte it types strongly?

This most likely depends on whether you know Stanley Kutype's film:
"Dr. Strangeduck: Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the
Dude"

 

[Robert Klemme]

Can a duck be dudified whilte it types strongly?

What is the sound of one duck typing?

 

[Robert Klemme]

Dear native speakers

I have been quite bothered with the usage of the word "dude" recently.
Not that I dislike the word itself but I feel it should be reserved to
friends using it in a quite informal context.
Am I wrong and do I have to adapt or is there some kind of agreement
with my POV?

I would not use it on a regular basis - certainly not here. But then
again, I am not a native speaker. It does feel a bit inappropriate
but maybe that's just the age (my age, I mean). ;-)

Thanks in advantage

Have you been watching some tennis recently?

Kind regards

robert

 

[Robert Klemme]

Dude comes from "dud", meaning fine clothes. Someone dressed up was "duddied
up", hence "doodied up". Confer "Howdy Doody". So the word "dude" came to
mean "a respectable urbane gentleman".

It's not informal: That's what it means.

Although it may well be the case that meaning has changed and / or
people use it differently. For example, I was exposed to the term the
first time in http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/ and picked up a
slightly different meaning.

Yes, yes, and no. (-:

Now go rail against non-native speakers of English using English-based chat
in forums that are not interactive enough to sustain acronyms like "smth" or
"no1"! I'm not sure, but I suspect some of them know English Chat better
than Standard English!

Which was the standard again, do you have the ISO # handy? I can't seem
to find it...

Cheers

robert

 

[Florian Gilcher]

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What is the sound of one duck typing?

An what does the dude[1] himself think of all this?

Regards,
Florian Gilcher

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[ThoML]

Although it may well be the case that meaning has changed and / or

people use it differently. For example, I was exposed to the term the
first time inhttp://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/and picked up a
slightly different meaning.

More references to look up:
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/dude

The term dude is used to describe a friend, comrade, or an associate. It entered the mainstream from California surfer slang about 1970.
The word originated in New York City slang of ca 1883, referring to a fastidiously sharp dresser, what the late 18th century called a 'macaroni:'

BTW I found it quite funny.

 

[Michael Schuerig]

What is the sound of one duck typing?

An what does the dude[1] himself think of all this?

[1] http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0003518/

"I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this
aggression will not stand, man."

Michael

 

[Robert Dober]

Lots of funny stuff, I still do not know about Dude, I guess I will
just parse it but not output it I guess
Thx folks

 

[Robert Klemme]

More references to look up:
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/dude

Thanks for that link! Loads of detail in there. I liked especially the
sticker "Dude, where's my brain?" - I need to get me one.

BTW I found it quite funny.

Indeed. And I did a quick comparison and found that "dandy" is slightly
older but at least partly covers the same semantics ("A man who is much
concerned with his dress and appearance.").

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/dandy

According to GF "dude" is much more common - at least on the web
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=dude&word2=dandy

Cheers

robert

 

[Robert Klemme]

While a "lazy time-wasting slacker" might also entirely be a "respectable
urbane gentleman", in this case I think the movie directors are indulging in
"reclaiming the language". Like calling a bald guy "curly".

You raise an interesting linguistic (or philosophical) question here:
can someone who had curly hair but went bald be correctly attributed as
"curly"? Maybe something for the next Ruby Quizz...

robert

 

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

You raise an interesting linguistic (or philosophical) question here:
can someone who had curly hair but went bald be correctly attributed as
"curly"? Maybe something for the next Ruby Quizz...

Well ... the original "Curly" aka "Babe" Howard (Horowitz) had a full
head of hair and shaved his head for the role. He might have become
"naturally" bald later.

 

[Rick DeNatale]

On 17.05.2008 15:25, Phlip wrote:

You raise an interesting linguistic (or philosophical) question here: can
someone who had curly hair but went bald be correctly attributed as "curly"?

Well, the person probably best known as Curly might not have been
bald, but he also didn't have much hair:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curly_Howard

Make me think of the old poem:

Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear
Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair.
Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't Fuzzy!
Wuzzy?

 

[Bill Kelly]

Lots of funny stuff, I still do not know about Dude, I guess I will
just parse it but not output it I guess

Growing up in southern california, I heard "Dude" a lot.

To my recollection it often took a form like:

"....dude! you gotta see this!"

or

"..there were these dudes at the beach last night who
had a whole stack of palettes and made a huge bonfire."

also sometimes used in incredulity or dismay, such as in the
case where someone unwittingly committed a giant faux pas,
and/or upon hearing the telling of some particularly wild
event:

"...so rob threw the soup can, but his manager came around
the corner right then and it clocked him right in the face!"

"oh, duuude!"

"yeah, he got a bloody nose and rob got fired..."


Something like that


Regards,

Bill

 

[Phillip Gawlowski]

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Robert Dober wrote:
| Dear native speakers
|
| I have been quite bothered with the usage of the word "dude" recently.

A good translation of 'dude' would be 'Kumpel'. A synonym something like
'buddy' or 'pal'.

- --
Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.com

Localise input and output in subroutines.
~ - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
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[Robert Dober]

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Robert Dober wrote:
| Dear native speakers
|
| I have been quite bothered with the usage of the word "dude" recently.

A good translation of 'dude' would be 'Kumpel'. A synonym something like
'buddy' or 'pal'.

It was quite what I thought, although I would be honored to be called
dude by someone I have posted with for years now I dislike the idea of
being called Dude by someone whom I barely know.

I will put it this way, you should not call somebody dude unless you
have herded sheep with her . (Comes from a French idiomatic sentence
).
In future I will either undudiefy (spelling?) or ignore the post.
R.

 

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

I will put it this way, you should not call somebody dude unless you
have herded sheep with her .

Or, since we're talking programmers, herded *cats* with her.