FAQ Updates

Discussion in 'Javascript' started by Randy Webb, Nov 15, 2006.

  1. Randy Webb

    Randy Webb Guest

    When is the next scheduled Update of the group FAQ? I see Richard
    talking about "not wasting time on a subject" yet he continues to do
    just that but isn't updating the FAQ. It has been asked about before (By
    John Stockton) with no reply.

    When will the FAQ be updated again?

    --
    Randy
    Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
    comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq
    Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
     
    Randy Webb, Nov 15, 2006
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  2. Randy Webb wrote:
    > When is the next scheduled Update of the group FAQ? I see Richard
    > talking about "not wasting time on a subject" yet he continues to do
    > just that but isn't updating the FAQ. It has been asked about before (By
    > John Stockton) with no reply.
    >
    > When will the FAQ be updated again?


    Who hands out the keys to the FAQ?
     
    Peter Michaux, Nov 15, 2006
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  3. Randy Webb

    Randy Webb Guest

    Peter Michaux said the following on 11/15/2006 6:41 PM:
    > Randy Webb wrote:
    >> When is the next scheduled Update of the group FAQ? I see Richard
    >> talking about "not wasting time on a subject" yet he continues to do
    >> just that but isn't updating the FAQ. It has been asked about before (By
    >> John Stockton) with no reply.
    >>
    >> When will the FAQ be updated again?

    >
    > Who hands out the keys to the FAQ?


    Jim Ley AFAIK.

    --
    Randy
    Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
    comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq
    Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
     
    Randy Webb, Nov 16, 2006
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  4. Randy Webb

    Jim Ley Guest

    On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:15:30 -0500, Randy Webb
    <> wrote:

    >Peter Michaux said the following on 11/15/2006 6:41 PM:
    >> Randy Webb wrote:
    >>> When is the next scheduled Update of the group FAQ? I see Richard
    >>> talking about "not wasting time on a subject" yet he continues to do
    >>> just that but isn't updating the FAQ. It has been asked about before (By
    >>> John Stockton) with no reply.
    >>>
    >>> When will the FAQ be updated again?

    >>
    >> Who hands out the keys to the FAQ?

    >
    >Jim Ley AFAIK.


    Yep any "known person" * will be provided access to the machine to
    update the FAQ on request from the group.

    I will also support unknown persons put will not want to provide any
    sort of shell access to directly update the site in that case.

    The biggest problem is my site is rather sick right now, overloaded,
    and the nice new machine is too noisy to turn on in the current
    location, and I've not had the time to do anything about getting it
    set up and installed in a colo.

    Cheers,

    Jim.

    [*] A known person is someone with a good history of posting within
    the group, and that I can google without finding anything bad on :)
     
    Jim Ley, Nov 16, 2006
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  5. Randy Webb

    Randy Webb Guest

    Jim Ley said the following on 11/16/2006 5:45 PM:
    > On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:15:30 -0500, Randy Webb
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> Peter Michaux said the following on 11/15/2006 6:41 PM:
    >>> Randy Webb wrote:
    >>>> When is the next scheduled Update of the group FAQ? I see Richard
    >>>> talking about "not wasting time on a subject" yet he continues to do
    >>>> just that but isn't updating the FAQ. It has been asked about before (By
    >>>> John Stockton) with no reply.
    >>>>
    >>>> When will the FAQ be updated again?
    >>> Who hands out the keys to the FAQ?

    >> Jim Ley AFAIK.

    >
    > Yep any "known person" * will be provided access to the machine to
    > update the FAQ on request from the group.


    Maybe someone could edit the FAQ as strictly an editor and let Richard
    stay as the technical advisor/editor. I spend most of my days at my desk
    at home. I had back surgery in Feb and work from home now so having time
    to do it wouldn't be a problem for me. I wouldn't want to be the
    answer-all technical person but prefer to leave it to a group consensus
    within limits. I might get my head handed to me for the offer but what
    the heck :)

    <snip>

    > The biggest problem is my site is rather sick right now, overloaded,
    > and the nice new machine is too noisy to turn on in the current
    > location, and I've not had the time to do anything about getting it
    > set up and installed in a colo.


    Sometime in January I am replacing my current PC with a new one. This
    one is about 3 years old but could be easily set up as a server with a
    static IP. Never tried running a site as busy as the FAQ site on my
    cable connection but maybe in Jan I can email you and get it setup and
    test it out.

    > [*] A known person is someone with a good history of posting within
    > the group, and that I can google without finding anything bad on :)


    Oops, that rules me out <g>

    --
    Randy
    Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
    comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq
    Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
     
    Randy Webb, Nov 17, 2006
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  6. Randy Webb

    Jim Ley Guest

    On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:25:10 -0500, Randy Webb
    <> wrote:

    >Sometime in January I am replacing my current PC with a new one. This
    >one is about 3 years old but could be easily set up as a server with a
    >static IP. Never tried running a site as busy as the FAQ site on my
    >cable connection but maybe in Jan I can email you and get it setup and
    >test it out.


    I have the machine (a nice 1U dual xeon) half set up and ready to go,
    I have offers of free colo space and hosting, it's just the time to
    get it all set up :)

    I'm very much hopeful to find some time one day :(

    Jim.
     
    Jim Ley, Nov 17, 2006
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  7. Randy Webb

    VK Guest

    I am a bit surprised that no one mentioned the name of the current FAQ
    poster. During the "comp.lang.javascript FAQ question" discussion
    <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/browse_frm/thread/2aa1140c148de30b/8954de60cffe6dab>
    Bart Van der Donck volunteered to restore FAQ posting and he's
    showing his commitment to this extra free job since August 2006. As he
    is the only person so far who did and does something (not just
    wishfully discussing) - then in my strong opinion he should be the
    first person to propose. Only if Bart Van der Donck doesn't want this
    extra job, other candidatures could be considered.

    I myself is not fully satisfied with the outcome of the linked July
    discussion. As the result of two FAQ maintainers in the row "left to
    stay", we are having a rather abnormal situation with
    1) hosting and server access from Jim Ley
    2) "keys" hidden by Richard Cornford
    3) regular postings in the newsgroup by Bart Van der Donck

    Someone may call it as an "extended security" but I see it as a
    ridiculous situation reminding me the late Roman Empire (on the falling
    apart stage :).

    This way the most important step would be to finish the transition
    started at July. Whoever will be the new FAQ maintainer, all previous
    FAQ maintainers has to finally step aside.
    If no agreement be possible by the "triumvir members" then it is
    more easy just to resign all of them and start over.

    Another problem to be addressed immediately is the procedure itself of
    FAQ topics add/update/remove. So far it simply doesn't work: each
    <FAQENTRY> transforms into endless discussion resulting in FAQ remained
    untouched. While it can be normal for many legislative bodies :), it
    is hardly acceptable for technical newsgroup. IMO the whole procedure
    should be strictly defined and formalized. A variant could be:
    1) Initial <FAQENTRY> post with action indicated:
    <faqentry action="add">
    <faqentry action="update">
    <faqentry action="remove">
    Each <faqentry> has to be well-formed XML fragment with indication of
    title, number, <del> and <ins> parts (for update requests)
    2) Initial post starts one week (seven days) discussion period
    3) Initial poster either accounts the critics or not in the CFV (Call
    For Votes) <FAQENTY> variant she has to post after the stage 2) is
    expired. If no CFV post made then the Initial post is counted as the
    CFV.
    4) Within three days after that anyone can make a voting post. The
    Usenet post must contain one and only one of the following vote
    statements:
    YES
    NO
    ABSTAIN
    Names are required for this vote. ABSTAIN votes are not counted in the
    results. The version passes the vote if there are at least 5 votes
    received and at least 50% + 1 vote are YES.

    Another question to resolve is FAQ versioning. It is important to keep
    ability to link/refer a FAQ topic directly rather than just saying
    "search for it in group FAQ". I saw somewhere posts made in c.l.j. at
    different time solving this problem, but I cannot find them again right
    now.

    P.S. comp.lang.javascript FAQ history:
    <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/msg/8954de60cffe6dab>
     
    VK, Nov 17, 2006
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  8. In message <>, Fri,
    17 Nov 2006 06:13:33, VK <> writes
    >I am a bit surprised that no one mentioned the name of the current FAQ
    >poster.
    > ...
    >Bart Van der Donck volunteered to restore FAQ posting and he's
    >showing his commitment to this extra free job since August 2006. As he
    >is the only person so far who did and does something (not just
    >wishfully discussing) - then in my strong opinion he should be the
    >first person to propose. Only if Bart Van der Donck doesn't want this
    >extra job, other candidatures could be considered.


    Agreed; he's earned that opportunity.

    >1) hosting and server access from Jim Ley


    ISTM that Jim is evidently fully committed to provision of the FAQ in
    principle, but in practice may usually be too busy to do all the routine
    work.

    >Another problem to be addressed immediately is the procedure itself of
    >FAQ topics add/update/remove.
    > ... ... ...


    IMHO not necessary. An active FAQ maintainer should just change it to
    what he thinks correct in the light of extant discussion and personal
    experience, and be ready to change it again if further discussion
    justifies further change. Changed sections should be manually posted
    here.



    >Another question to resolve is FAQ versioning.


    The FAQ could be stored not just as <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/>
    but as <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/20051105.html> etc. with
    <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/latest.html> redirecting to the latest
    version and with "latest.html" set as the default for its directory.

    Then the normal thing to do would be to cite
    <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/> in general, but
    <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/#F3-8> or
    <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/latest.htm#F3-8> for a specific entry
    in the latest version.

    Those needing to cite a specific version could use the dated name, and
    the Maintainer should give a few days notice of any changing (as
    distinct from just adding) of the anchor-name/text relationship.




    IMHO the full FAQ should be posted to news:c.l.j at least once per
    version, and by arrangement that should be cross-posted to
    news:news.answers.

    --
    (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 IE 6
    <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/> Old RC FAQ of news:comp.lang.javascript
    <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-index.htm> jscr maths, dates, sources.
    <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> TP/BP/Delphi/jscr/&c, FAQ items, links.
     
    Dr J R Stockton, Nov 17, 2006
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  9. Randy Webb

    VK Guest

    > ISTM that Jim is evidently fully committed to provision of the FAQ in
    > principle, but in practice may usually be too busy to do all the routine
    > work.


    I more than appreciate Jim Ley commitment he made back in 1999, but a
    reliable server maintenance it is necessary to have 24-hrs access the
    the server plus the minimum set of tools such as server-side scripting
    (Perl / PHP), CRON access, database (at least mySQL), .htaccess etc.
    This way a simple Web or FTP accesses to a folder is not enough: that
    should be a separate virtual server. Otherwise the main part of
    problems the maintainer will have to solve will be related with boring
    technical issues rather than with the FAQ themselves.

    > >Another problem to be addressed immediately is the procedure itself of
    > >FAQ topics add/update/remove.
    > > ... ... ...


    > IMHO not necessary. An active FAQ maintainer should just change it to
    > what he thinks correct in the light of extant discussion and personal
    > experience, and be ready to change it again if further discussion
    > justifies further change. Changed sections should be manually posted
    > here.


    That depends on who do you want to have: a new king or a new president
    :)
    I would prefer a new president but right away to protect him from a
    brute force insistence on something by the cabal members; to make him
    more independent from who elected him or who's providing him the tools
    for his job. IMHO seven days (or even ten) is more than enough to say
    anything one has to say on the FAQ topic. But the discussion has to
    lead to some final result: either final YES or final NO. Otherwise
    these are wasted electrons :)

    It is also the question if every FAQ maintainer has to be considered by
    its status as "absolutely all knowing person". I would see him more
    than as enthusiastic administrator rather than God watching everything
    from the top and taking from time to time the only possibly correct
    decision. IMHO.

    > >Another question to resolve is FAQ versioning.

    >
    > The FAQ could be stored not just as <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/>
    > but as <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/20051105.html> etc. with
    > <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/latest.html> redirecting to the latest
    > version and with "latest.html" set as the default for its directory.
    >
    > Then the normal thing to do would be to cite
    > <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/> in general, but
    > <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/#F3-8> or
    > <URL:http://www.jibbering.com/faq/latest.htm#F3-8> for a specific entry
    > in the latest version.
    >
    > Those needing to cite a specific version could use the dated name, and
    > the Maintainer should give a few days notice of any changing (as
    > distinct from just adding) of the anchor-name/text relationship.


    I don't really like the idea of splitting FAQ on "latest", "normal",
    "old" etc. The FAQ should be only one: *currently* suggested by c.l.j.
    But I have no better ideas as of now.
     
    VK, Nov 18, 2006
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  10. Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately I don't have enough time to do
    it. I would support Randy's candidature.

    Here is some information about content handling:

    - At this moment, http://www.jibbering.com/faq/index.xml is ASCII [*]
    and not encoded in UTF8/Unicode/Big Endian. It's okay to keep it this
    way.

    - If a need would rise to extend the characters to ISO-8859-1, then
    it's possible too, but only if the initial line of
    http://www.jibbering.com/faq/index.xml is changed into <?xml
    version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> . index.xml should still be
    saved not encoded in UTF8/Unicode/Big Endian/..., just in plain Latin.

    - More than ISO-8859-1 is currently not supported, but I think it's no
    problem; ISO-8859-1 should be wide enough for the FAQ. There are issues
    with UTF-8 on Usenet [**], it's very complex and the logic of Perl's
    XML::parser/XML::Simple is quite bizarre regarding this matter.

    My conclusion would therefore be that the ASCII or (if needed) the
    ISO-8859-1 charsets should be workable.

    http://www.jibbering.com/faq/index.xml can be updated like/how you
    wish, add new entries, delete entries, change entries, etc. only the
    basic XML structure should be kept. Also the breakdown at pos72 is
    beneficial towards a pretty Usenet layout. Anyway, let me know if
    you've questions and I'll be glad to assist.

    --
    Bart


    [*] It should be mentionned that one is "always safe" with ASCII,
    regardless of which future applications might ever be written with the
    data. One is "mostly safe" with ISO-8859-1, but *not* always.

    [**]
    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/browse_frm/thread/b69ca7351dd6ecec/
     
    Bart Van der Donck, Nov 18, 2006
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  11. Randy Webb

    Jim Ley Guest

    On 17 Nov 2006 16:02:34 -0800, "VK" <> wrote:
    >I more than appreciate Jim Ley commitment he made back in 1999, but a
    >reliable server maintenance it is necessary to have 24-hrs access the
    >the server plus the minimum set of tools such as server-side scripting
    >(Perl / PHP), CRON access, database (at least mySQL), .htaccess etc.


    That's ludicrous, it's a static file that is edited by agreement
    through usenet, you certainly do not need any database for it, it
    would be madness - of course any account I give on the box can have
    access to any such things.

    >I don't really like the idea of splitting FAQ on "latest", "normal",
    >"old" etc. The FAQ should be only one: *currently* suggested by c.l.j.
    >But I have no better ideas as of now.


    Every version should be available (if it's not then it was a back-up
    failure from when I lost the disk, and I'll need to sort it out from
    other sources if I can.

    Jim.
     
    Jim Ley, Nov 18, 2006
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  12. Randy Webb

    VK Guest

    Bart Van der Donck wrote:
    > Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately I don't have enough time to do
    > it.


    That's a pity but we understand.

    > I would support Randy's candidature.


    I will too then - if the the FAQ update procedure will be anyhow
    formalized (see my other posts). Don't worry of me pushing for array or
    inheritance "VK's nonsense" - I'm away from it for FAQ :). But it must
    be some procedure to ensure that if an issue is raised, studied and
    confirmed - then ensure it will appear in FAQ.
     
    VK, Nov 18, 2006
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  13. Randy Webb

    VK Guest

    Bart Van der Donck wrote:
    > > Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately I don't have enough time to do
    > > it. I would support Randy's candidature.


    > That's a pity but we understand.
    > I will too then


    And - in the light of Bart Van der Donck leaving the race, and to give
    a choice, and just for hell of it - I decided to be Pat Buchanan in
    this campain.
    Hey, guys, any votes for VK?
     
    VK, Nov 18, 2006
    #13
  14. VK wrote:
    > Bart Van der Donck wrote:
    > > > Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately I don't have enough time to do
    > > > it. I would support Randy's candidature.

    >
    > > That's a pity but we understand.
    > > I will too then

    >
    > And - in the light of Bart Van der Donck leaving the race, and to give
    > a choice, and just for hell of it - I decided to be Pat Buchanan in
    > this campain.


    Bad choice. Look what he stands for

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan

    He is clearly way out of touch and didn't make a single good choice.
    Didn't win either.
     
    Peter Michaux, Nov 18, 2006
    #14
  15. Randy Webb

    VK Guest

    VK wrote:
    > > And - in the light of Bart Van der Donck leaving the race, and to give
    > > a choice, and just for hell of it - I decided to be Pat Buchanan in
    > > this campain.


    > Bad choice. Look what he stands for
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan
    > He is clearly way out of touch and didn't make a single good choice.
    > Didn't win either.


    Right: that is the root of my joke (Mr.Webb and many American readers
    surely get it right). :) Buchanan is a "perpetual candidate"
    participating in every elections w/o any chance to win. I meant to say
    that with many times clinically proven VK's danger to JavaScript
    programming and to the programming as such :) I have the same chances
    to get on FAQ as Buchanan to become the next US president. But as
    Buchanan I see my obligation in participating, creating a concurrence
    and so save the democracy :)
     
    VK, Nov 18, 2006
    #15
  16. In message <>, Fri,
    17 Nov 2006 16:02:34, VK <> writes
    >> ISTM that Jim is evidently fully committed to provision of the FAQ in
    >> principle, but in practice may usually be too busy to do all the routine
    >> work.

    >
    >I more than appreciate Jim Ley commitment he made back in 1999, but a
    >reliable server maintenance it is necessary to have 24-hrs access the
    >the server plus the minimum set of tools such as server-side scripting
    >(Perl / PHP), CRON access, database (at least mySQL), .htaccess etc.
    >This way a simple Web or FTP accesses to a folder is not enough: that
    >should be a separate virtual server. Otherwise the main part of
    >problems the maintainer will have to solve will be related with boring
    >technical issues rather than with the FAQ themselves.


    Apart from the first clause, wholly untrue.

    If the FAQ is served from a reliable ISP, the author has nothing to do
    with server maintenance. And I can edit my Web site, if necessary, from
    any machine with two-way FTP and a text editor.



    >I don't really like the idea of splitting FAQ on "latest", "normal",
    >"old" etc. The FAQ should be only one: *currently* suggested by c.l.j.
    >But I have no better ideas as of now.


    It can be useful for the history to be available, if only so that old
    links still work.

    It could be useful to have a mechanism for handling new material while
    the True Maintainer is, for example, on holiday. For example, if during
    the past year there had arisen a sudden and urgent need for a change,
    then no doubt Jim-the-Omnipotent had the capability of appending a new
    chunk without waiting for Richard.

    --
    (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 IE 6.
    Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms
    PAS EXE etc : <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see 00index.htm
    Dates - miscdate.htm moredate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.
     
    Dr J R Stockton, Nov 18, 2006
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  17. Randy Webb

    Randy Webb Guest

    Peter Michaux said the following on 11/18/2006 12:53 PM:
    > VK wrote:
    >> Bart Van der Donck wrote:
    >>>> Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately I don't have enough time to do
    >>>> it. I would support Randy's candidature.
    >>> That's a pity but we understand.
    >>> I will too then

    >> And - in the light of Bart Van der Donck leaving the race, and to give
    >> a choice, and just for hell of it - I decided to be Pat Buchanan in
    >> this campain.

    >
    > Bad choice. Look what he stands for
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan
    >
    > He is clearly way out of touch and didn't make a single good choice.
    > Didn't win either.


    That describes VK almost perfectly :)

    But his post was an American joke that most non-Americans (or as JRS
    refers to them - Merkins) don't understand. It took me a while to
    realize what a Merkin even was.

    --
    Randy
    Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
    comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq
    Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
     
    Randy Webb, Nov 18, 2006
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  18. Randy Webb

    Randy Webb Guest

    VK said the following on 11/18/2006 10:36 AM:
    > Bart Van der Donck wrote:
    >> Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately I don't have enough time to do
    >> it.

    >
    > That's a pity but we understand.
    >
    >> I would support Randy's candidature.

    >
    > I will too then - if the the FAQ update procedure will be anyhow
    > formalized (see my other posts).


    I have never seen anything "wrong" with the FAQ Update procedure that is
    in place now. The procedure is fine. The problem is a matter of the
    editor having time to keep up with it.

    > Don't worry of me pushing for array or inheritance "VK's nonsense" -
    > I'm away from it for FAQ :).


    You can push all you want :)

    > But it must be some procedure to ensure that if an issue is raised,
    > studied and confirmed - then ensure it will appear in FAQ.


    The only problem now is it getting into the FAQ and that is only a
    matter of Richard not having time to do it.

    --
    Randy
    Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
    comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq
    Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
     
    Randy Webb, Nov 18, 2006
    #18
  19. In message <>, Sat, 18 Nov 2006
    17:17:10, Randy Webb <> writes
    >VK said the following on 11/18/2006 10:36 AM:
    >> Bart Van der Donck wrote:
    >>> Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately I don't have enough time to do
    >>> it.

    >> That's a pity but we understand.
    >>
    >>> I would support Randy's candidature.

    >> I will too then - if the the FAQ update procedure will be anyhow
    >> formalized (see my other posts).

    >
    >I have never seen anything "wrong" with the FAQ Update procedure that
    >is in place now. The procedure is fine. The problem is a matter of the
    >editor having time to keep up with it.



    The Editor has plenty of time available. He need only stop arguing with
    VK, which is a task that others could undertake more compactly, and then
    he would have ample time to edit a FAQ maintained as a simple document.
    Instead, he has chosen to abandon the responsibility which he has
    undertaken.

    I understand that the FAQ is maintained in a more complex form, and
    believe that that should not cause significant maintenance overhead. If
    it does so cause thereby preventing maintenance, the FAQ source should
    change to a simpler form, either plain text or ordinary Web-ready HTML.

    --
    (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ???@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME.
    Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links.
    Check boilerplate spelling -- error is a public sign of incompetence.
    Never fully trust an article from a poster who gives no full real name.
     
    Dr J R Stockton, Nov 19, 2006
    #19
  20. Randy Webb

    Matt Kruse Guest

    Dr J R Stockton wrote:
    > The Editor has plenty of time available. He need only stop arguing
    > with VK, which is a task that others could undertake more compactly


    I recommend a FAQ entry and a form-letter group reply to VK postings that
    contain errors. People who find VK's erroneous responses using newsgroup
    searches will also find the reply and the pre-written justification for why
    the response should be ignored. This group is far too cluttered by VK
    debates, IMO. It's like a playground argument sometimes. Imagine what could
    be accomplished with the time currently spent writing long replies to VK's
    posts.

    > and then he would have ample time to edit a FAQ maintained as a
    > simple document. Instead, he has chosen to abandon the responsibility
    > which he has undertaken.


    FAQ editing is boring and has questionable benefit. IMO, the FAQ is outdated
    and much of it is no longer relevant. It's not a concise FAQ containing
    answers the most typical and frequently-asked questions here. It contains a
    lot of fluff, and a lot of answers that don't even need to be included
    anymore.

    Spending time editing a document that is often referred to but apparently
    seldom read by the people who could benefit most from it is difficult to
    justify. I know I wouldn't do it.

    The only way the newsgroup FAQ can continue to be updated and stay relevant
    is to use a wiki interface with a set of approved editors, so that changes
    can be made in real time by a variety of people. It's nearly 2007. It's time
    for the FAQ process to catch up with the rest of the web.

    --
    Matt Kruse
    http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com
    http://www.AjaxToolbox.com
     
    Matt Kruse, Nov 19, 2006
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