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Discussion in 'HTML' started by danny, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. danny

    danny Guest

    danny, Jan 3, 2007
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  2. danny wrote:
    > can you guys feedback on my site, thanks.
    > www.totalkool.com


    No images on FF 2
     
    Travis Newbury, Jan 3, 2007
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  3. danny wrote:

    > can you guys feedback on my site, thanks.
    > www.totalkool.com


    In one word: lacking.

    The page is generally blank, not counting the text itself. The image
    files you're referencing do not exist on the server, and the markup is
    all messy. Judging by the markup clutter, I'm assuming you've used
    Microsoft Word to design the page. Your page ends up with 88 validation
    errors, plus quite a bit of unnecessary markup, styles and comments:

    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.totalkool.com/

    Using Word for web design is a bad idea (for anything but planning the
    content structure). I suggest you invest some time in using a software
    package designed for just such a purpose. A good starting point is the
    open source package NVU:
    http://www.nvu.com/

    --
    Kim André Akerø
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    (remove NOSPAM to contact me directly)
     
    =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kim_Andr=E9_Aker=F8?=, Jan 3, 2007
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  4. Travis Newbury wrote:

    > danny wrote:
    >> can you guys feedback on my site, thanks.
    >> www.totalkool.com

    >
    > No images on FF 2


    Most of them are missing in IE6 as well. Some additional text shows in
    IE6, but is not "selectable".
    <p class=MsoTitle3><span style='language:EN'>Sign Up Form</span></p>
    ...cannot be selected by click-drag in my IE6.

    The "Newsletter" page asks for an email address, accepts it, and doesn't
    test to see if it is valid. Example, it accepted: joe @ nowhere.com
    with spaces.

    How about a sample of one of the newsletters?

    "Sign up for" .. something that's blank .. for a thousand dollars?

    "Name the four worst HTML editors:"

    4. Microsoft FrontPage
    3. Microsoft Word
    2. Microsoft Excel
    1. Microsoft Publisher

    --
    -bts
    -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jan 3, 2007
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  5. danny

    Vince Morgan Guest

    "danny" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > can you guys feedback on my site, thanks.
    > www.totalkool.com
    >

    People will actualy pay money for such information?
     
    Vince Morgan, Jan 3, 2007
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  6. Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > Travis Newbury wrote:
    >
    >> danny wrote:
    >>> can you guys feedback on my site, thanks.
    >>> www.totalkool.com

    >> No images on FF 2

    >
    > Most of them are missing in IE6 as well. Some additional text shows in
    > IE6, but is not "selectable".
    > <p class=MsoTitle3><span style='language:EN'>Sign Up Form</span></p>
    > ..cannot be selected by click-drag in my IE6.
    >
    > The "Newsletter" page asks for an email address, accepts it, and doesn't
    > test to see if it is valid. Example, it accepted: joe @ nowhere.com
    > with spaces.
    >
    > How about a sample of one of the newsletters?
    >
    > "Sign up for" .. something that's blank .. for a thousand dollars?
    >
    > "Name the four worst HTML editors:"
    >
    > 4. Microsoft FrontPage
    > 3. Microsoft Word
    > 2. Microsoft Excel
    > 1. Microsoft Publisher
    >


    Look at source and see:

    left:191px;top:233px;width:561px;height:3px'><img width=561 height=3
    src="index_files/image347.gif"
    v:shapes="_x0000_s1059"></span><![endif]><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:rect
    id="_x0000_s1524" style='position:absolute;left:6in;top:219pt;width:120pt;

    height:120pt;z-index:26;mso-wrap-distance-left:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-top:2.88pt;
    mso-wrap-distance-right:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-bottom:2.88pt'
    o:preferrelative="t" filled="f" fillcolor="white [7]" stroked="f"
    strokecolor="black [0]" o:cliptowrap="t">
    <v:fill color2="white [7]"/>
    <v:stroke color2="white [7]">
    <o:left v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
    <o:top v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
    <o:right v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
    <o:bottom v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
    <o:column v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
    </v:stroke>
    <v:imagedata src="index_files/image756.jpg" o:title="images"/>
    <v:shadow color="#ccc [4]"/>
    <v:path o:extrusionok="f" insetpenok="f"/>
    <o:lock v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t"/>
    </v:rect><![endif]--><![if !vml]><span style='position:absolute;z-index:26;

    And the editor is? #1! This stuff was spewed from MS Publisher...

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
     
    Jonathan N. Little, Jan 3, 2007
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  7. Jonathan N. Little wrote:

    > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >> "Name the four worst HTML editors:"
    >>
    >> 4. Microsoft FrontPage
    >> 3. Microsoft Word

    2.5 Adobe PageMill ...
    >> 2. Microsoft Excel
    >> 1. Microsoft Publisher

    >
    > Look at source and see:


    Yep. Did that. :)

    > And the editor is? #1! This stuff was spewed from MS Publisher...


    I remember getting a copy of the then-new Publisher 97 and seeing "Makes
    web pages" on the box. Whoohoo, I said. Made one page, saw how bad it
    was, and trashed it. Later versions are worse.

    --
    -bts
    -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jan 3, 2007
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  8. danny

    danny Guest

    Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > Travis Newbury wrote:
    >
    > > danny wrote:
    > >> can you guys feedback on my site, thanks.
    > >> www.totalkool.com

    > >
    > > No images on FF 2

    >
    > Most of them are missing in IE6 as well. Some additional text shows in
    > IE6, but is not "selectable".
    > <p class=MsoTitle3><span style='language:EN'>Sign Up Form</span></p>
    > ..cannot be selected by click-drag in my IE6.
    >
    > The "Newsletter" page asks for an email address, accepts it, and doesn't
    > test to see if it is valid. Example, it accepted: joe @ nowhere.com
    > with spaces.
    >
    > How about a sample of one of the newsletters?
    >
    > "Sign up for" .. something that's blank .. for a thousand dollars?
    > 1000 Runescape doolars lol
    > "Name the four worst HTML editors:"
    >
    > 4. Microsoft FrontPage
    > 3. Microsoft Word
    > 2. Microsoft Excel
    > 1. Microsoft Publisher
    >
    > --
    > -bts
    > -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    danny, Jan 3, 2007
    #8
  9. danny

    danny Guest

    Vince Morgan wrote:
    > "danny" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > can you guys feedback on my site, thanks.
    > > www.totalkool.com
    > >

    > People will actualy pay money for such information?

    Runescape money
     
    danny, Jan 3, 2007
    #9
  10. danny wrote:
    > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >> Travis Newbury wrote:
    >>
    >>> danny wrote:
    >>>> can you guys feedback on my site, thanks.
    >>>> www.totalkool.com
    >>> No images on FF 2

    >> Most of them are missing in IE6 as well. Some additional text shows in
    >> IE6, but is not "selectable".
    >> <p class=MsoTitle3><span style='language:EN'>Sign Up Form</span></p>
    >> ..cannot be selected by click-drag in my IE6.
    >>
    >> The "Newsletter" page asks for an email address, accepts it, and doesn't
    >> test to see if it is valid. Example, it accepted: joe @ nowhere.com
    >> with spaces.
    >>
    >> How about a sample of one of the newsletters?
    >>
    >> "Sign up for" .. something that's blank .. for a thousand dollars?
    >> 1000 Runescape doolars lol
    >> "Name the four worst HTML editors:"
    >>
    >> 4. Microsoft FrontPage
    >> 3. Microsoft Word
    >> 2. Microsoft Excel
    >> 1. Microsoft Publisher
    >>


    Well you got the quoting part down, but the reply part seems a bit lacking!

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
     
    Jonathan N. Little, Jan 4, 2007
    #10
  11. Jonathan N. Little wrote:

    > Well you got the quoting part down, but the reply part seems a bit
    > lacking!


    He just posted the same query in alt.www.webmaster, where he says he is
    eleven years old. For some reason, the site doesn't look like something
    an 11-year-old would produce.

    I wonder if he is Geoff Hutchison ?

    --
    -bts
    -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2007
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  12. Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    >
    >> Well you got the quoting part down, but the reply part seems a bit
    >> lacking!

    >
    > He just posted the same query in alt.www.webmaster, where he says he is
    > eleven years old. For some reason, the site doesn't look like something
    > an 11-year-old would produce.
    >
    > I wonder if he is Geoff Hutchison ?
    >


    Who is Geoff Hutchison?

    Agreed, although poor in design is does not look like the work of an
    11-year-old.

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
     
    Jonathan N. Little, Jan 4, 2007
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  13. Jonathan N. Little wrote:

    > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >> He just posted the same query in alt.www.webmaster, where he says he
    >> is eleven years old. For some reason, the site doesn't look like
    >> something an 11-year-old would produce.
    >>
    >> I wonder if he is Geoff Hutchison ?

    >
    > Who is Geoff Hutchison?


    The person whose name is listed as the registered owner of the domain
    name. Has an address in Shepparton, Victoria, AU. It also lists an email
    address using this domain name: http://hutchy.com/ <g>

    > Agreed, although poor in design is does not look like the work of an
    > 11-year-old.


    Maybe the 'hutchy.com' does...

    --
    -bts
    -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2007
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  14. danny

    danny Guest

    Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    >
    > > Well you got the quoting part down, but the reply part seems a bit
    > > lacking!

    >
    > He just posted the same query in alt.www.webmaster, where he says he is
    > eleven years old. For some reason, the site doesn't look like something
    > an 11-year-old would produce.
    >
    > I wonder if he is Geoff Hutchison ?
    >
    > --
    > -bts
    > -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

    Geoff Hutchison do you know him?
    He is my Uncle!
     
    danny, Jan 4, 2007
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  15. danny

    danny Guest

    When you guys say Nothing an 11 year old would produce do you mean
    could or would?? I am eleven by the way!
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    >
    > > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > >> He just posted the same query in alt.www.webmaster, where he says he
    > >> is eleven years old. For some reason, the site doesn't look like
    > >> something an 11-year-old would produce.
    > >>
    > >> I wonder if he is Geoff Hutchison ?

    > >
    > > Who is Geoff Hutchison?

    >
    > The person whose name is listed as the registered owner of the domain
    > name. Has an address in Shepparton, Victoria, AU. It also lists an email
    > address using this domain name: http://hutchy.com/ <g>
    >
    > > Agreed, although poor in design is does not look like the work of an
    > > 11-year-old.

    >
    > Maybe the 'hutchy.com' does...
    >
    > --
    > -bts
    > -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    danny, Jan 4, 2007
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  16. danny

    dorayme Guest

    In article <>,
    "danny" <> wrote:

    > When you guys say Nothing an 11 year old would produce do you mean
    > could or would?? I am eleven by the way!


    You are eleven? I know something about eleven year olds.

    What an eleven year old can do and does do are closely related.
    It is a wonderful thing in many ways. These two things will never
    quite be so closely matched in any subsequent age group.

    --
    dorayme
     
    dorayme, Jan 4, 2007
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  17. danny wrote:

    > When you guys say Nothing an 11 year old would produce do you mean
    > could or would?? I am eleven by the way!


    "When you pay a small fee of only 1k per month ..."

    $1000 AU Dollars? Euros? US Dollars? Per month?

    " ... you can ask other people on our Runescape Chat your buggering
    questions or you could post a message onto our sit which we will
    answer!"

    Is Runescape a game for kids? Will kids have a thousand dollars?

    --
    -bts
    -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2007
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  18. danny wrote:

    > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >> I wonder if he is Geoff Hutchison ?

    >
    > Geoff Hutchison do you know him?
    > He is my Uncle!


    Sure, Uncle Geoff and I were koala hunting just last week.

    --
    -bts
    -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2007
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  19. danny

    Ed Mullen Guest

    Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > danny wrote:
    >
    >> When you guys say Nothing an 11 year old would produce do you mean
    >> could or would?? I am eleven by the way!

    >
    > "When you pay a small fee of only 1k per month ..."
    >
    > $1000 AU Dollars? Euros? US Dollars? Per month?
    >
    > " ... you can ask other people on our Runescape Chat your buggering
    > questions or you could post a message onto our sit which we will
    > answer!"
    >
    > Is Runescape a game for kids? Will kids have a thousand dollars?
    >


    A cursory look only here but, apparently, "yes" to both.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=runescape&btnG=Google Search

    --
    Ed Mullen
    http://edmullen.net
    http://mozilla.edmullen.net
    http://abington.edmullen.net
    Very funny Scotty - now beam down my clothes.
     
    Ed Mullen, Jan 4, 2007
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  20. Ed Mullen wrote:

    > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >> Is Runescape a game for kids? Will kids have a thousand dollars?

    >
    > A cursory look only here but, apparently, "yes" to both.
    >
    > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=runescape&btnG=Google Search


    Yeah, I had already looked it up to see what it was. <g>

    --
    -bts
    -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jan 4, 2007
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