FW: Good IDE for Python

[Fred Allen]

Dear Michael,

I've searched fruitlessly for your recommended IDLE patch's download point. While I am probably only slightly slower than the average python programmer, I expect that others, no less witless than I, have had similar experience. Would you please post either explicit instructions by which I (we) can find the download. With thanks in advance, I am,

Gratefully,

Fred Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: Fuzzyman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:35 AM
To: (e-mail address removed)
Subject: Re: Good IDE for Python

This patch to IDLE improves it a bit:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group_id=5470&atid=305470

It adds among other things the pop-down function list.
It's a little cumbersome to apply but the result is quite good.
I've been using it for a few days and I'm quite happy with it.
I may provide a patch against python 2.3.3 or another version if someone
is interrested.

If you are interresed, I made a smaller patch adding the qualified name
autocompletion (module.<Alt-/>functions). But the former patch does it
better (it even supports filename autocompletion).

This looks *very* interesting.
How do you apply a patch like this ?

Regards,

Fuzzy
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html

 

[Fuzzyman]

Dear Michael,

I've searched fruitlessly for your recommended IDLE patch's download
point. While I am probably only slightly slower than the average python
programmer, I expect that others, no less witless than I, have had
similar experience. Would you please post either explicit instructions
by which I (we) can find the download. With thanks in advance, I am,

Gratefully,

Fred Allen

Hello Fred,

In actual fact I replied to Gregoire (?) asking how to *apply* the
patch (I did succeed in downloading it though !)... it's not actually
my patch. Whilst I've managed to download the patch I haven't a clue
what to do with it... and I was hoping Greg would let me know.....

If you go to :
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group_id=5470&atid=305470

Right at the bottom there is a heading saying 'Attached Files'. Below
this it says :
syntaxdiffs Diffs agains CVS in 29.02.04 Download

Needless to say the download link.. is the download one. The actual
link is :

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=5470&atid=305470&file_id=78388&aid=906702

Regards,


Fuzzy

http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Fuzzyman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:35 AM
To: (e-mail address removed)
Subject: Re: Good IDE for Python

This patch to IDLE improves it a bit:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group
id=5470&atid=305470

It adds among other things the pop-down function list.
It's a little cumbersome to apply but the result is quite good.
I've been using it for a few days and I'm quite happy with it.
I may provide a patch against python 2.3.3 or another version if someone
is interrested.

If you are interresed, I made a smaller patch adding the qualified name
autocompletion (module.<Alt-/>functions). But the former patch does it

better (it even supports filename autocompletion).

This looks *very* interesting.
How do you apply a patch like this ?

Regards,

Fuzzy
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9goire_Dooms?=]

Hi,

You need the 'patch' program to apply a patch, the 'diff' program to
produce one.
If you are under windows you should get cygwin at http://www.cygwin.com/
though you could maybe get a standalone diff and patch program for windows.

I've set-up an archive of the patched files in the Lib/idlelib directory
for you to download the files affected by the patch:
get it at http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/~dooms/idle-syntax-patched-files.zip
just unzip and copy the files in your idlelib dir.

HTH
--
Grégoire Dooms

Dear Michael,

I've searched fruitlessly for your recommended IDLE patch's download
point. While I am probably only slightly slower than the average python
programmer, I expect that others, no less witless than I, have had
similar experience. Would you please post either explicit instructions
by which I (we) can find the download. With thanks in advance, I am,

Gratefully,

Fred Allen

Hello Fred,

In actual fact I replied to Gregoire (?) asking how to *apply* the
patch (I did succeed in downloading it though !)... it's not actually
my patch. Whilst I've managed to download the patch I haven't a clue
what to do with it... and I was hoping Greg would let me know.....

If you go to :
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group_id=5470&atid=305470

Right at the bottom there is a heading saying 'Attached Files'. Below
this it says :
syntaxdiffs Diffs agains CVS in 29.02.04 Download

Needless to say the download link.. is the download one. The actual
link is :

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=5470&atid=305470&file_id=78388&aid=906702

Regards,


Fuzzy

http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Fuzzyman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:35 AM
To: (e-mail address removed)
Subject: Re: Good IDE for Python

Kamilche wrote:

I love Python, but I'm less than in love with IDLE. It's OK, but it
really doesn't have enough capabilities.

What I consider critical, are a popdown listing of all my functions,
colored syntax printing, and a right-click 'definition' context menu
that will hop you to the spot where that keyword is defined, if
possible. Everything else I could learn to do without, but these
features keep me hoping for a better IDE for Python.

I'm used to the Microsoft Visual C++ debugger, and though tooltip
variable debugging and intellisense were nice, they broke often
enough

that you couldn't rely on them anyway, so I don't really need those
features.

I would also like the ability to create application 'forms'
visually.

I'm on a Windows XP machine.

Any suggestions on what I should install next?

This patch to IDLE improves it a bit:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group
id=5470&atid=305470

It adds among other things the pop-down function list.
It's a little cumbersome to apply but the result is quite good.
I've been using it for a few days and I'm quite happy with it.
I may provide a patch against python 2.3.3 or another version if

someone

is interrested.

If you are interresed, I made a smaller patch adding the qualified

name

autocompletion (module.<Alt-/>functions). But the former patch does it


better (it even supports filename autocompletion).

This looks *very* interesting.
How do you apply a patch like this ?

Regards,

Fuzzy
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html

 

[Fuzzyman]

Hi,

You need the 'patch' program to apply a patch, the 'diff' program to
produce one.
If you are under windows you should get cygwin at http://www.cygwin.com/
though you could maybe get a standalone diff and patch program for windows.

I've set-up an archive of the patched files in the Lib/idlelib directory
for you to download the files affected by the patch:
get it at http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/~dooms/idle-syntax-patched-files.zip
just unzip and copy the files in your idlelib dir.

HTH

Thanks Greg,

Very helpful... as soon as I've transferred the files from this
rickerty old internet box I'll try it immediately...

Regards,

Fuzzy

Dear Michael,

I've searched fruitlessly for your recommended IDLE patch's download
point. While I am probably only slightly slower than the average python
programmer, I expect that others, no less witless than I, have had
similar experience. Would you please post either explicit instructions
by which I (we) can find the download. With thanks in advance, I am,

Gratefully,

Fred Allen

Hello Fred,

In actual fact I replied to Gregoire (?) asking how to *apply* the
patch (I did succeed in downloading it though !)... it's not actually
my patch. Whilst I've managed to download the patch I haven't a clue
what to do with it... and I was hoping Greg would let me know.....

If you go to :
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group_id=5470&atid=305470

Right at the bottom there is a heading saying 'Attached Files'. Below
this it says :
syntaxdiffs Diffs agains CVS in 29.02.04 Download

Needless to say the download link.. is the download one. The actual
link is :

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=5470&atid=305470&file_id=78388&aid=906702

Regards,


Fuzzy

http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Fuzzyman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:35 AM
To: (e-mail address removed)
Subject: Re: Good IDE for Python


Kamilche wrote:

I love Python, but I'm less than in love with IDLE. It's OK, but it
really doesn't have enough capabilities.

What I consider critical, are a popdown listing of all my functions,
colored syntax printing, and a right-click 'definition' context menu
that will hop you to the spot where that keyword is defined, if
possible. Everything else I could learn to do without, but these
features keep me hoping for a better IDE for Python.

I'm used to the Microsoft Visual C++ debugger, and though tooltip
variable debugging and intellisense were nice, they broke often

enough

that you couldn't rely on them anyway, so I don't really need those
features.

I would also like the ability to create application 'forms'

visually.

I'm on a Windows XP machine.

Any suggestions on what I should install next?

This patch to IDLE improves it a bit:


http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group
id=5470&atid=305470

It adds among other things the pop-down function list.
It's a little cumbersome to apply but the result is quite good.
I've been using it for a few days and I'm quite happy with it.
I may provide a patch against python 2.3.3 or another version if

someone

is interrested.

If you are interresed, I made a smaller patch adding the qualified

name

autocompletion (module.<Alt-/>functions). But the former patch does it



better (it even supports filename autocompletion).

This looks *very* interesting.
How do you apply a patch like this ?

Regards,

Fuzzy
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html