Help wanted will pay reasonable fee

K

Karl Groves

Yes I tell my employees what to do.
Some idiot web worker is not in a position to advise me on what I want.
You are just a two bit flunky and illiterate at that.
Now run along .... your mommy is calling

hahahahahahahahahahahaha
This is priceless.
When you're doing work for Fortune 200 Companies, come back and play.

Until then, I hope this serves as public record of what a kook you are and
how poorly you represent your company:
http://www.kirwood.com/
http://www.canlaw.com

-Karl
 
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RobM

Cathy Puta said:
You are dead wrong. This is NOT a database project

The maintenance cost is zero. since MPs do not change between elections.
If I spelled something wrong a simple search and replace fixes that in two
nanoseconds.

The cost of developing a database for this simple little project is out of
proportion to its value.

Hang on... one page (say, JSP) reading from one database table (which can be
populated easily from a list/xcel), say Mysql... helluva lot quicker for me
to do than manage...er ... how many separate pages? Yes, governments do go
through the money, dont they!

RobM
 
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nice.guy.nige

While the city slept, Cathy Puta ([email protected]) feverishly typed...
You are dead wrong. This is NOT a database project

Please stop top-posting: http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
The maintenance cost is zero. since MPs do not change between
elections.

Erm... then what is the point of having elections? However, if you mean by
that statement that MP's do not change from a day to day basis *after* a
general election and *before* the next one, then that isn't true. What about
by-elections? And just because an MP doesn't change, doesn't mean that their
contact info won't change over time.
If I spelled something wrong a simple search and replace fixes that
in two nanoseconds.

Yes. I know that. The example I gave was over-simplified. But my statement
stands - this method will mean high maintenance costs and will be a QA
nightmare. How can you possibly imagine that it will be easier to maintain
308 pages *and* keep QA up-to-date, than it will be to maintain 1 page?
The cost of developing a database for this simple little project is
out of proportion to its value.

Hardly! I could knock up a basic database to hold the information you need
in less than an hour. The admin pages to maintain the database (add / edit /
delete entries) by the end of the day (or even quicker if you don't want
them to look pretty). If you have the data in a machine-readable format
(spreadsheet, etc) then I can quickly automate the process to insert the
data to the database, otherwise you hire some lacky at minimum-wage to type
it in using the admin pages. Once this is done, it is a simple matter to
maintain the database - anyone who can use a web-based form can do it (and
it can be done from anywhere in the world with a web connection). If you
*desparately* want to export the data to static pages (eg. for distribution
on CD-Rom), I can quickly knock up a script to extract the data from the
database and write a series of static pages. Once this script is written,
you can use it any time to produce an up-to-date version - at the press of a
button!

And remember that once this database is set up, it will still be available
after the next general election, after which your minimum-wage lacky can
update the database where necessary instead of wading through page after
page of HTML.

And it isn't a "little project" - you are wanting 308 pages setting up! And
it can hardly have little value, as you are charging people a minimum of $10
for access to the info.
Try to grasp that elementary concept.

Try to grasp the elementary concept of QA, and apply it to the method you
are proposing to generate 308 pages, as opposed to the method we are
proposing.
I am the client and I will have it my way. If I wanted expert advice
I would find an expert and no one here qualifies.

No. You are not "the client" - the client is someone I enter into a contract
with to provide a service. You are someone asking for help with a project,
and completely ignoring the professional advice you are naturally receiving
in a forum filled with web professionals. You are currently a "potential
client", though with your attitude, I don't imagine you will get any further
than that with anyone from this group.

Cheers,
Nige
 
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nice.guy.nige

While the city slept, Karl Groves ([email protected]) feverishly
typed...
[...]
Until then, I hope this serves as public record of what a kook you
are and how poorly you represent your company:
http://www.kirwood.com/

Ooh! I love the hover-effect on the menu links! From a readable white on
blue, to a practically invisible white on yellow!!! And they offer
web-design services, even though they have no concept of colour...
priceless!

Cheers,
Nige
 
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nice.guy.nige

While the city slept, RobM ([email protected]) feverishly typed...
Hang on... one page (say, JSP) reading from one database table (which
can be populated easily from a list/xcel), say Mysql... helluva lot
quicker for me to do than manage...er ... how many separate pages?
Yes, governments do go through the money, dont they!

Well, yes, governments do. But this is not a government project. It is a
private company. You would have thought they would be better with the
pennies wouldn't you?

In actual fact, the government (or more properly, the parliament) site does
use a database. It also has all the essential contacts for all 308 MP's
already available, so quite why someone would want to pay a minimum of $10
to these cowboys is beyond me. Maybe they provide more contact info? But
there is not any more info necessary for any lobbyist who is setting off
contacting an MP for the first time.

Ho hum...

Cheers,
Nige
 
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nice.guy.nige

While the city slept, rf ([email protected]) feverishly typed...
Libel is if she verbally calls you an ass to your face, or if says to
that news reporter over there --> that you are an ass. Slander is if
she puts it in writing and publishes it somewhere, like where
millions of people can read it. Much more serious.

Erm... unless the law in Oz is completely different to the law in Britain, I
think you may have your libels and slanders the wrong way round! Slander is
spoken, libel is recorded. But remember, IANAL, and I'm not too sure that
the OP is, either! ;-)
People: Why are we still feeding this troll?

Because it brightens up an otherwise dull and dreary day? And personally,
I'm looking for any way to get listed in the weekly alt.html statistics! I
used to be listed in the LOLQ stats... :-(

Cheers,
Nige
 
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Deryck

Karl Groves said:
Until then, I hope this serves as public record of what a kook you are and
how poorly you represent your company:
http://www.kirwood.com/

There are pages that dont validate and there are pages that *really* dont
validate. Guess which category this page comes under? :)

Deryck
 
E

E. Le Phant

Cathy Puta said:
I did not ask for a discussion. I was looking to hire someone for a simple
two
or three day job.
When you could hire someone for one day to create it as a db project.
Who did you say the ass was?
 
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E. Le Phant

Cathy Puta said:
Cathy Puta works for me.

You are going to get a Statement of Claim along with your company for your
unfounded attacks on us.

Please let us know if you have a lawyer who will accept service on your
behalf.
J K I

BTW your web site is pathetic. You obviously have no skills whatsoever,
apart
from that of attacking people.

I wouldn't hire you to eat shit in an outhouse.
Oh you sad sad bastard.
You are a total twat.
(So sue me for libel.)
 
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rf

nice.guy.nige said:
While the city slept, rf ([email protected]) feverishly typed...


Erm... unless the law in Oz is completely different to the law in Britain,

(It's loosely based on the British system, we are convicts after all)
I
think you may have your libels and slanders the wrong way round!

Have I. Oh shit. You are correct. This is probably why IANAL :)

Then again you know how they always get it arse about anyway :)
And personally,
I'm looking for any way to get listed in the weekly alt.html statistics!

Dream on...
 
C

Cathy Puta

The ignorant have all crawled out from under their rocks and are demonstrating
their stupidity for all to see.

You are dead wrong. There is no way in hell that this project could "save
thousands in development time" when it isn't worth more than about 20 hours
typing data into a template.

I have a db online with over 68000 records which cost me less than $1500. to
produce.

So this is my last post to you fools. I found a girl who will do this in her
spare time for a reasonable price and do it the way I want it done.



 
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saz

I did not ask for a discussion. I was looking to hire someone for a simple two
or three day job.

More like 60 hours for HTML @ US$70/hour = $4200, or 16 hours for
database = $1120. After viewing the current site I see that HTML
validation and attractive design are not necessary. This is a web
designer's dream come true.

I'm now convinced that HTML is the way to go. I can't believe all the
time I've wasted talking other customers into databases and saving them
money. What an idiot I've been! I could have retired by now!

This guy clearly knows more than all of us collectively, so I will offer
to take his money...I mean job. Just send a US$2100 non-refundable
deposit and I'll put you on my schedule.

I can't start until late October, since I have to dump the current
database I am creating for a client and start anew with HTML, and charge
him 4 times the original quote.

Thanks for opening my eyes to the error of my ways!
 
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Sentient Fluid

Dave said:
"Cathy Puta" is an alias for J Kirby Inwood, and anyone
seriously considering taking on the requested work may
want to do a bit of research:
http://www.lsuc.ca/news/updates/june1704_lawyerindex.jsp
A google groups search shows lots of info going back
many years.

I'm curious why everyone is bothering with this. How many companies
post from a hotmail address (even to Usenet)?

Also, my spanish is almost non-existent but doesn't 'puta' mean 'slut'?
What kind of company would allow an employee to conduct business with
such an alias?
 
H

Hywel

The ignorant have all crawled out from under their rocks and are demonstrating
their stupidity for all to see.

You are dead wrong. There is no way in hell that this project could "save
thousands in development time" when it isn't worth more than about 20 hours
typing data into a template.

I have a db online with over 68000 records which cost me less than $1500. to
produce.

So this is my last post to you fools.

You'll be back. Google shows that you can't stay away for long you
freak.

I found a girl who will do this in her
spare time for a reasonable price and do it the way I want it done.

Did you use your usual method of persuasion with her?
 

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