Help with some code

P

Paul Martin

I would be gratefull if someone could help me adjust some code as I don't
know enough about HTML. I'll confess that I use FrontPage for my website, do
most of it through the design view and only occasionally try stuff directly
in HTML.

My website has some shopping cart stuff in it and there is a button that it
supplies which I paste in and edit as required. My editing only goes as far
as changing the text and the money values. I would like to alter two things
in the appearance but I dont know if it possible or how to do it.

The two items i want to change are: -

1. reduce the distant between the title line, 0N30 FLEXI TRACK, and the
first line of stock in this case, "0n30 Code 100 Flex Track per yard
<b>Price: £4.50</b>"
2. reduce the size or the button that appears at the bottom with the text
ORDER NOW in it.

I dont understand what it controlling these aspects of the display so dont
know what to try changing.

Grateful for any help, but talk to me in simple terms

Paul Martin

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<!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" startspan --><html>
<head>
<title>Example 5</title>
</head>

<body>

<h3><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica,adobe-helvetica,Arial Narrow"
color="#339900" size="3">0N30 FLEXI TRACK</b></font></h3>

<form action="http://ww4.aitsafe.com/cf/addmulti.cfm" method="post">
<input type="hidden" name="userid" value="6030586">
<input type="hidden" name="return" value="www.ngtrains.com/track.htmm">

<table width="100%" border="0" bgcolor="#CCFFFF">
<tr><td width="80%">&nbsp;</td><td>Quantity</td></tr>
<tr>
<td width="80%"align=left>
0n30 Code 100 Flex Track per yard <b>Price: £4.50</b>
</td>
<td>
<input type="text" name="qty1" size="2">
<input type="hidden" name="product1" value="0n30 Code 100 Flex Track -
1yd">
<input type="hidden" name="price1" value="4.50">
</td>
<tr>
<td width="80%"align=left>
0n30 Code 83 Flex Track per yard <b>Price: £4.50</b>
</td>
<td>
<input type="text" name="qty2" size="2">
<input type="hidden" name="product2" value="0n30 Code 83 Flex Track -
1yd">
<input type="hidden" name="price2" value="4.50">
</td>
<tr>
<td width="80%"align=left>
0n30 Code 70 Flex Track per yard <b>Price: £4.50</b>
</td>
<td>
<input type="text" name="qty3" size="2">
<input type="hidden" name="product3" value="0n30 Code 70 Flex Track -
1yd">
<input type="hidden" name="price3" value="4.50">

</tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" align="right">
<input type="submit" value="Order Now!">
</td></tr>
</table>

</form>

</body>
</html><!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" endspan --></td>
 
V

Val

I would be gratefull if someone could help me adjust some code as I don't
know enough about HTML. I'll confess that I use FrontPage for my website, do
most of it through the design view and only occasionally try stuff directly
in HTML.

My website has some shopping cart stuff in it and there is a button that it
supplies which I paste in and edit as required. My editing only goes as far
as changing the text and the money values. I would like to alter two things
in the appearance but I dont know if it possible or how to do it.

The two items i want to change are: -

1. reduce the distant between the title line, 0N30 FLEXI TRACK, and the
first line of stock in this case, "0n30 Code 100 Flex Track per yard
<b>Price: £4.50</b>"
2. reduce the size or the button that appears at the bottom with the text
ORDER NOW in it.

I dont understand what it controlling these aspects of the display so dont
know what to try changing.

Grateful for any help, but talk to me in simple terms

Paul Martin

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------

<!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" startspan --><html>
<head>
<title>Example 5</title>
</head>

<body>

<h3><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica,adobe-helvetica,Arial Narrow"
color="#339900" size="3">0N30 FLEXI TRACK</b></font></h3>

<form action="http://ww4.aitsafe.com/cf/addmulti.cfm" method="post">
<input type="hidden" name="userid" value="6030586">
<input type="hidden" name="return" value="www.ngtrains.com/track.htmm">

<table width="100%" border="0" bgcolor="#CCFFFF">
<tr><td width="80%"> </td><td>Quantity</td></tr>
<tr>
<td width="80%"align=left>
0n30 Code 100 Flex Track per yard <b>Price: £4.50</b>
</td>
<td>
<input type="text" name="qty1" size="2">
<input type="hidden" name="product1" value="0n30 Code 100 Flex Track -
1yd">
<input type="hidden" name="price1" value="4.50">
</td>
<tr>
<td width="80%"align=left>
0n30 Code 83 Flex Track per yard <b>Price: £4.50</b>
</td>
<td>
<input type="text" name="qty2" size="2">
<input type="hidden" name="product2" value="0n30 Code 83 Flex Track -
1yd">
<input type="hidden" name="price2" value="4.50">
</td>
<tr>
<td width="80%"align=left>
0n30 Code 70 Flex Track per yard <b>Price: £4.50</b>
</td>
<td>
<input type="text" name="qty3" size="2">
<input type="hidden" name="product3" value="0n30 Code 70 Flex Track -
1yd">
<input type="hidden" name="price3" value="4.50">

</tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" align="right">
<input type="submit" value="Order Now!">
</td></tr>
</table>

</form>

</body>
</html><!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" endspan --></td>
Click to expand...

Can't help, still learning, but I thought that using 'Frontpage' was
sort of a no-no amongst purists, which is why I'm doing my website
totally in XHTML - and is why it's taking me so *@!*@$! long.

I'll be interested in the repies though, I'm worrying about the
shopping cart bit too, I was going to buy that in too.
Val
 
P

Paul Martin

Val
It might be a no no but it works. I'm not a computer geek, I make and sell
model railway stuff, so I use frontpage because its easy. Someone else does
all the cart bit, these buttons as in my example, are supplied by the cart
provider but when I asked them for help they said speak to someone who knows
HTML. I thought this might be the place, now i'm not so sure.
Paul
I would be gratefull if someone could help me adjust some code as I don't
know enough about HTML. I'll confess that I use FrontPage for my website,
do
most of it through the design view and only occasionally try stuff
directly
in HTML.

My website has some shopping cart stuff in it and there is a button that
it
supplies which I paste in and edit as required. My editing only goes as
far
as changing the text and the money values. I would like to alter two
things
in the appearance but I dont know if it possible or how to do it.

The two items i want to change are: -

1. reduce the distant between the title line, 0N30 FLEXI TRACK, and
the
first line of stock in this case, "0n30 Code 100 Flex Track per yard
<b>Price: £4.50</b>"
2. reduce the size or the button that appears at the bottom with the
text
ORDER NOW in it.

I dont understand what it controlling these aspects of the display so dont
know what to try changing.

Grateful for any help, but talk to me in simple terms

Paul Martin

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------

<!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" startspan --><html>
<head>
<title>Example 5</title>
</head>

<body>

<h3><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica,adobe-helvetica,Arial Narrow"
color="#339900" size="3">0N30 FLEXI TRACK</b></font></h3>

<form action="http://ww4.aitsafe.com/cf/addmulti.cfm" method="post">
<input type="hidden" name="userid" value="6030586">
<input type="hidden" name="return" value="www.ngtrains.com/track.htmm">

<table width="100%" border="0" bgcolor="#CCFFFF">
<tr><td width="80%"> </td><td>Quantity</td></tr>
<tr>
<td width="80%"align=left>
0n30 Code 100 Flex Track per yard <b>Price: £4.50</b>
</td>
<td>
<input type="text" name="qty1" size="2">
<input type="hidden" name="product1" value="0n30 Code 100 Flex Track -
1yd">
<input type="hidden" name="price1" value="4.50">
</td>
<tr>
<td width="80%"align=left>
0n30 Code 83 Flex Track per yard <b>Price: £4.50</b>
</td>
<td>
<input type="text" name="qty2" size="2">
<input type="hidden" name="product2" value="0n30 Code 83 Flex Track -
1yd">
<input type="hidden" name="price2" value="4.50">
</td>
<tr>
<td width="80%"align=left>
0n30 Code 70 Flex Track per yard <b>Price: £4.50</b>
</td>
<td>
<input type="text" name="qty3" size="2">
<input type="hidden" name="product3" value="0n30 Code 70 Flex Track -
1yd">
<input type="hidden" name="price3" value="4.50">

</tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" align="right">
<input type="submit" value="Order Now!">
</td></tr>
</table>

</form>

</body>
</html><!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" endspan --></td>
Click to expand...

Can't help, still learning, but I thought that using 'Frontpage' was
sort of a no-no amongst purists, which is why I'm doing my website
totally in XHTML - and is why it's taking me so *@!*@$! long.

I'll be interested in the repies though, I'm worrying about the
shopping cart bit too, I was going to buy that in too.
Val
 
V

Val

Val
It might be a no no but it works. I'm not a computer geek, I make and sell
model railway stuff, so I use frontpage because its easy. Someone else does
all the cart bit, these buttons as in my example, are supplied by the cart
provider but when I asked them for help they said speak to someone who knows
HTML. I thought this might be the place, now i'm not so sure.












Can't help, still learning, but I thought that using 'Frontpage' was
sort of a no-no amongst purists, which is why I'm doing my website
totally in XHTML - and is why it's taking me so *@!*@$! long.

I'll be interested in the repies though, I'm worrying about the
shopping cart bit too, I was going to buy that in too.
Val
Click to expand...

I am really so very sorry Paul, I'm not a contributer here, I just
lurk & pick up tips; I don't know squat atm (probably never really
will) I'm just generally flippant in any group I post to.
I'm only learning XHTML because I want to set up my own small
commercial site to sell stuff I've produced because when I originally
checked out existing sites, to sell my stuff for me, I wasn't happy
with what I was being offered for my 'creative work' & started
thinking of other things I could gradually incorporate if I had my own
site.
I decided to build the website myself, for a lot of diverse reasons,
rather than pay someone & although I've made a simple site in the
past, I was advised the best way to go about it was to learn HTML (X
as now) & CSS.
I suppose I'm a geek because I really enjoy it, it could just be I'm a
sad little old single lady & find it better than knitting now my
sighht is failing :)
Sorry again, I'll shut up now & lurk quietly.
Val
 
D

dorayme

"Paul Martin said:
I would be gratefull if someone could help me adjust some code as I don't
know enough about HTML. I'll confess that I use FrontPage
....

The two items i want to change are: -

1. reduce the distant between the title line, 0N30 FLEXI TRACK, and the
first line of stock in this case, "0n30 Code 100 Flex Track per yard
<b>Price: £4.50</b>"
2. reduce the size or the button that appears at the bottom with the text
ORDER NOW in it.

I dont understand what it controlling these aspects of the display so dont
know what to try changing.
Click to expand...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------


<!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" startspan --><html>
<head>
<title>Example 5</title>
</head>

<body>

<h3><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica,adobe-helvetica,Arial Narrow"
Click to expand...


You would increase your chances of getting help if you posted a
url instead of so much code here. You should also test with free
html and css validation services first. That way, you can see
what to ask better and folk can see the page and maybe even help
with more strategic things. The code you list is unsatisfactory
in some fundamental ways, and even has specific mistakes.

But re your actual questions, you can control the space above and
below a heading by adjusting the default margin on it. If you
must have inline styles, look at <h3 style="margin: 0" ...

As for the smaller text question, the style there is eg. <input
style="font-size: 10%;"...
 
P

Paul Martin

Val
Don't take offence, none was intended.
As someone who just needs to create a website Frontpage does it for me as
you will be able to see if you look at www.ngtrains.com. It just makes me
smile when people [code snobs?] rubbish a perfectly useable program. Sure it
could do some things better and there are some features i wish it had or did
differently.

I wish I had time to learn HTML and other bits to make the site really
whizzy and I occasionally head of down an avenue in that direction and find
I am spending ages on it and am missing the point of doing the website and
using time I should be spending on customers orders.

The sort of thing that gets me going is the other reply received to my
query. Yes it helps, but only after its delivered a high handed lecture on
things I should have done but had never heard of prior to the lecture.
You paint an unflattering picture of yourself, I get a picture of a wizzened
old grannie in her rocking chair by the fire!
Thanks for at least answering my post
Cheers
Paul
 
B

Bergamot

dorayme said:
style="font-size: 10%;"
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You missed a zero in there. If 10% isn't a typo after all, then you are
encouraging the use of type the size of fly specks. :(
 
J

John Hosking

Paul said:
Val
Don't take offence, none was intended.
Click to expand...

What are you talking about? Please leave some context in your reply. The
posts I've seen don't indicate any offence taken by Val, nor any any
reason for her to from you.
As someone who just needs to create a website Frontpage does it for me
as you will be able to see if you look at www.ngtrains.com. It just
makes me smile when people [code snobs?] rubbish a perfectly useable
program.
Click to expand...

Well, it's not *that* perfect:
"Monday, March 26, 107" ;-)
I wish I had time to learn HTML and other bits to make the site really
whizzy and I occasionally head of down an avenue in that direction and
find I am spending ages on it and am missing the point of doing the
website and using time I should be spending on customers orders.
Click to expand...

Well, you know, maybe if you understood HTML and CSS, you could simplify
the code, and with simpler code it wouldn't take so much of your time to
maintain.
The sort of thing that gets me going is the other reply received to my
query. Yes it helps, but only after its delivered a high handed lecture
on things I should have done but had never heard of prior to the lecture.
Click to expand...

Do you mean the response by dorayme? If so, then you need to realign
your help perceptors. A URL is always preferred over large code
snippets, and since you apparently have an actual site already, you
could have provided the URL and let us examine it. The help would have
been greater, as dorayme said, and for the reasons he mentioned. In no
way do I see his reply as high-handed. That's not his way.

You could indeed (similar to the hint from dorayme) add
margin-bottom:.1em; (or some other preferred small value) to your h3
rule. I have no idea what FrontPage will do to it then, however.
 
D

dorayme

Bergamot said:
You missed a zero in there. If 10% isn't a typo after all, then you are
encouraging the use of type the size of fly specks. :(
Click to expand...

You have not studied the context. If it was 100%, the typing
would have been a mistyping or worse.

The point was simply to show how it could be made smaller. The
10% was a caricature. Sorry, I don't believe your underlying
assumption, namely, that showing how to do things is encouraging
them. In fact, I believe that in very many contexts, it does the
very opposite. If you want the argument for this, am happy to
supply.
 

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