How we recognize newbies as newbies

Discussion in 'C++' started by Alf P. Steinbach, Aug 13, 2007.

  1. 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.

    --
    A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
    Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
    A: Top-posting.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
     
    Alf P. Steinbach, Aug 13, 2007
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  2. Alf P. Steinbach

    arnuld Guest

    > On Aug 13, 10:29 pm, "Alf P. Steinbach" <> wrote:
    > 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.


    :D

    i shew the last characteristic
     
    arnuld, Aug 13, 2007
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  3. 4. Makes Top-Postings and/or quotes signatures :)

    Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
    > 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.
    >
    > --
    > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
    > Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
    > A: Top-posting.
    > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?


    --
    Thomas
    http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
     
    Thomas J. Gritzan, Aug 13, 2007
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  4. Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
    > 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.

    ... or appears not the one that "should be",
    especially in the case of 'cout << ++i << ++i'.

    5. Requests to point to "the best web site
    to learn C/C++".
     
    Victor Bazarov, Aug 13, 2007
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  5. Alf P. Steinbach

    BobR Guest

    Alf P. Steinbach <> wrote in message...
    > 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.


    9. Which to learn first, C or C++. (asked in c.l.c++).
    42. What is my error? (no code shown).
    293. Subject: HELP! Body: Help me.
    307. How to graphic?
    309. How to make a major networking app., with threads. (newbie???)
    309a. ""... How to open file?
    309b. ""...'cout' doesn't work (like 3.).

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    Bob <G> R
    POVrookie
     
    BobR, Aug 13, 2007
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  6. Alf P. Steinbach

    Jim Langston Guest

    "BobR" <> wrote in message
    news:Tk3wi.34209$...
    >
    > Alf P. Steinbach <> wrote in message...
    >> 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    >> 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    >> 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.

    >
    > 9. Which to learn first, C or C++. (asked in c.l.c++).
    > 42. What is my error? (no code shown).
    > 293. Subject: HELP! Body: Help me.
    > 307. How to graphic?
    > 309. How to make a major networking app., with threads. (newbie???)
    > 309a. ""... How to open file?
    > 309b. ""...'cout' doesn't work (like 3.).


    406. What comes after pico?
     
    Jim Langston, Aug 13, 2007
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  7. Jim Langston wrote:
    > "BobR" <> wrote in message
    > news:Tk3wi.34209$...
    >>
    >> Alf P. Steinbach <> wrote in message...
    >>> 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    >>> 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    >>> 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.

    >>
    >> 9. Which to learn first, C or C++. (asked in c.l.c++).
    >> 42. What is my error? (no code shown).
    >> 293. Subject: HELP! Body: Help me.
    >> 307. How to graphic?
    >> 309. How to make a major networking app., with threads. (newbie???)
    >> 309a. ""... How to open file?
    >> 309b. ""...'cout' doesn't work (like 3.).

    >
    > 406. What comes after pico?


    666. "Hey! Don't criticize my code! If you don't
    want to help, just don't respond! Sheesh!"
     
    Victor Bazarov, Aug 13, 2007
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  8. Alf P. Steinbach

    red floyd Guest

    On Aug 13, 10:29 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" <> wrote:
    > 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.
    >

    397. What's the most efficient way to save 0.001 microseconds on
    something I haven't even profiled yet?
     
    red floyd, Aug 13, 2007
    #8
  9. Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
    > 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.
    >



    999.
    void main()
    {
    .... // ... segv somewhere here
    }

    Can you tell me what the problem is ?


    1000.

    test.cpp:42 Undefined variable 'i'.
    What does this compiler error mean ?
     
    Gianni Mariani, Aug 13, 2007
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  10. Alf P. Steinbach

    Default User Guest

    Alf P. Steinbach wrote:

    > 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.


    An inordinate interest in the size of things.




    Brian
     
    Default User, Aug 14, 2007
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  11. Hi!

    Alf P. Steinbach schrieb:
    > 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.


    4. additions like: "I would politely advise you of my non english
    descent and reticently beg you not to affront my inept diction."

    My first post to the usenet in 1998 contained such a sentence. While
    reviewing my post I realized my english wasn't bad at all. It even
    included complex tenses like conditional which still seem appropriate to
    me today.

    Didn't we all begin like that somehow?

    Frank
     
    Frank Birbacher, Aug 14, 2007
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  12. Alf P. Steinbach

    BobR Guest

    Jim Langston <> wrote in message...
    > "BobR" <> wrote in message...
    > >
    > > Alf P. Steinbach <> wrote in message...
    > >> 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > >> 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > >> 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.

    > >
    > > 9. Which to learn first, C or C++. (asked in c.l.c++).
    > > 42. What is my error? (no code shown).
    > > 293. Subject: HELP! Body: Help me.
    > > 307. How to graphic?
    > > 309. How to make a major networking app., with threads. (newbie???)
    > > 309a. ""... How to open file?
    > > 309b. ""...'cout' doesn't work (like 3.).

    >
    > 406. What comes after pico?


    de Gallo!

    ( Pico de Gallo = tomato, onion, cilantro mix.)

    --
    Bob R
    POVrookie
     
    BobR, Aug 14, 2007
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  13. Alf P. Steinbach

    ks Guest

    On Aug 13, 1:29 pm, "Alf P. Steinbach" <> wrote:
    > 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.
    >
    > --
    > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
    > Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
    > A: Top-posting.
    > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?


    I try to merely peruse this group because the regulars are so sharp
    and I almost never fail to learn something, so thank you all.

    I couldn't resist commenting though: you make me laugh. I really
    believe some of you can't wait to pounce on the unsuspecting student
    who has had two weeks of C++ education. Keep up the good work and
    thanks again!

    Kevin
     
    ks, Aug 14, 2007
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  14. Alf P. Steinbach

    Jim Langston Guest

    "Victor Bazarov" <> wrote in message
    news:f9qif9$rqt$...
    > Jim Langston wrote:
    >> "BobR" <> wrote in message
    >> news:Tk3wi.34209$...
    >>>
    >>> Alf P. Steinbach <> wrote in message...
    >>>> 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    >>>> 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    >>>> 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.
    >>>
    >>> 9. Which to learn first, C or C++. (asked in c.l.c++).
    >>> 42. What is my error? (no code shown).
    >>> 293. Subject: HELP! Body: Help me.
    >>> 307. How to graphic?
    >>> 309. How to make a major networking app., with threads. (newbie???)
    >>> 309a. ""... How to open file?
    >>> 309b. ""...'cout' doesn't work (like 3.).

    >>
    >> 406. What comes after pico?

    >
    > 666. "Hey! Don't criticize my code! If you don't
    > want to help, just don't respond! Sheesh!"


    732. Here is my program:
    int main()
    {
    }
    What do I need to add to print out the fibinochi sequence?
     
    Jim Langston, Aug 14, 2007
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  15. Jim Langston wrote:
    > "Victor Bazarov" <> wrote in message
    > news:f9qif9$rqt$...
    >> Jim Langston wrote:
    >>> "BobR" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:Tk3wi.34209$...
    >>>> Alf P. Steinbach <> wrote in message...
    >>>>> 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    >>>>> 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    >>>>> 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.
    >>>> 9. Which to learn first, C or C++. (asked in c.l.c++).
    >>>> 42. What is my error? (no code shown).
    >>>> 293. Subject: HELP! Body: Help me.
    >>>> 307. How to graphic?
    >>>> 309. How to make a major networking app., with threads. (newbie???)
    >>>> 309a. ""... How to open file?
    >>>> 309b. ""...'cout' doesn't work (like 3.).
    >>> 406. What comes after pico?

    >> 666. "Hey! Don't criticize my code! If you don't
    >> want to help, just don't respond! Sheesh!"

    >
    > 732. Here is my program:
    > int main()
    > {
    > }
    > What do I need to add to print out the fibinochi sequence?


    777. How can I stop the console window pop up and close?

    0815. "...I use VC6.0..."

    4711.

    int *p = new int;
    delete p;
    *p = 10;

    Why does it work?

    l33t. "Could U g4z plz ttl me Y that wtx? Thanx!"

    --
    Thomas
    http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
     
    Thomas J. Gritzan, Aug 14, 2007
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  16. > >>>>> 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > >>>>> 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > >>>>> 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.
    > >>>> 9. Which to learn first, C or C++. (asked in c.l.c++).
    > >>>> 42. What is my error? (no code shown).
    > >>>> 293. Subject: HELP! Body: Help me.
    > >>>> 307. How to graphic?
    > >>>> 309. How to make a major networking app., with threads. (newbie???)
    > >>>> 309a. ""... How to open file?
    > >>>> 309b. ""...'cout' doesn't work (like 3.).
    > >>> 406. What comes after pico?
    > >> 666. "Hey! Don't criticize my code! If you don't
    > >> want to help, just don't respond! Sheesh!"

    > > 732. Here is my program:
    > > int main()
    > > {
    > > }
    > > What do I need to add to print out the fibinochi sequence?

    > 777. How can I stop the console window pop up and close?
    > 0815. "...I use VC6.0..."
    > 4711.
    > int *p = new int;
    > delete p;
    > *p = 10;
    > Why does it work?
    >
    > l33t. "Could U g4z plz ttl me Y that wtx? Thanx!"

    863. 'HOW CAN I WRITE A PROGRAM TO PRINT THIS OUTPUT? THANKS'
    * * * * *
    * * * *
    * * *
    * *
    *
     
    Neelesh Bodas, Aug 14, 2007
    #16
  17. On Aug 14, 8:13 am, Neelesh Bodas <> wrote:
    > > >>>>> 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    > > >>>>> 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    > > >>>>> 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.
    > > >>>> 9. Which to learn first, C or C++. (asked in c.l.c++).
    > > >>>> 42. What is my error? (no code shown).
    > > >>>> 293. Subject: HELP! Body: Help me.
    > > >>>> 307. How to graphic?
    > > >>>> 309. How to make a major networking app., with threads. (newbie???)
    > > >>>> 309a. ""... How to open file?
    > > >>>> 309b. ""...'cout' doesn't work (like 3.).
    > > >>> 406. What comes after pico?
    > > >> 666. "Hey! Don't criticize my code! If you don't
    > > >> want to help, just don't respond! Sheesh!"
    > > > 732. Here is my program:
    > > > int main()
    > > > {
    > > > }
    > > > What do I need to add to print out the fibinochi sequence?

    > > 777. How can I stop the console window pop up and close?
    > > 0815. "...I use VC6.0..."
    > > 4711.
    > > int *p = new int;
    > > delete p;
    > > *p = 10;
    > > Why does it work?

    >
    > > l33t. "Could U g4z plz ttl me Y that wtx? Thanx!"

    >
    > 863. 'HOW CAN I WRITE A PROGRAM TO PRINT THIS OUTPUT? THANKS'
    > * * * * *
    > * * * *
    > * * *
    > * *
    > *

    864. 8.16 AM: Why I donot get any output?? [ some non-compilable code
    provided]
    8.33 AM: Why I donot get any output?? [ same post]
    9.10 AM: Why I donot get any output?? [ same post]

    865. How do I get this working with C/C++? Cross posted to c.l.c++,
    c.l.c++.m, c.l.c.
     
    Neelesh Bodas, Aug 14, 2007
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  18. Alf P. Steinbach

    Jerry Coffin Guest

    In article <>,
    says...

    [ ... ]

    > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
    > > Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
    > > A: Top-posting.
    > > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

    >
    > I try to merely peruse this group because the regulars are so sharp
    > and I almost never fail to learn something, so thank you all.


    [ ... ]

    Quoting a signature is a pretty obvious giveaway as well! :)

    --
    Later,
    Jerry.

    The universe is a figment of its own imagination.
     
    Jerry Coffin, Aug 14, 2007
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  19. Alf P. Steinbach

    Bo Persson Guest

    ks wrote:
    :: On Aug 13, 1:29 pm, "Alf P. Steinbach" <> wrote:
    ::: 1. Invalid "int _tmain", "void main", etc.
    ::: 2. Needless and incorrect "(T) expression"
    ::: 3. Complaints that output doesn't appear.
    :::
    ::: --
    :: I try to merely peruse this group because the regulars are so sharp
    :: and I almost never fail to learn something, so thank you all.
    ::
    :: I couldn't resist commenting though: you make me laugh. I really
    :: believe some of you can't wait to pounce on the unsuspecting
    :: student who has had two weeks of C++ education.

    I think some of us are just fascinated that, at that point, someone
    starts to try to figure out how to write code that is faster and/or
    smaller than the most obvious code would be.

    Why is that believed to be so important? Why is it believed that
    outsmarting the compiler is so easy?


    Bo Persson
     
    Bo Persson, Aug 14, 2007
    #19
  20. * Bo Persson:
    > Why is that believed to be so important? Why is it believed that
    > outsmarting the compiler is so easy?


    Because compilers are so stupid, and their performance is so abysmal
    sometimes?

    --
    Martijn van Buul -
     
    Martijn van Buul, Aug 14, 2007
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