HTML 2.0 editor for Windows?

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erkkikosonen

Does someone know a free, downloadable HTML 2.0 editor/composer for
Windows? It would be nice if it followed the HTML 2.0 standard.
 
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Edwin van der Vaart

Does someone know a free, downloadable HTML 2.0 editor/composer for
Windows? It would be nice if it followed the HTML 2.0 standard.
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Feel free.
[http://www.evandervaart.nl/edit/] a list of editors.
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Edwin van der Vaart

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

And?
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And? The implied question is... "What do you *really* mean?"

a. Do you want to author pages with ancient rules (and why)?
b. Are you confusing "HTML 2.0" with the buzzword "Web 2.0?"

[Please don't snip attributions.]
 
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erkkikosonen

Then search for html 2.0 and a serial or a crack for the program.
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I could not have found an HTML 2.0 editor. That is why I asked if
someone knew of one.

Cracks are illegal. I would prefer freeware, but users on this
newsgroup do not even seem to understand my original question.
 
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erkkikosonen

a. Do you want to author pages with ancient rules (and why)?
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I find these ancient rules better than those of today. Why does
everything have to be new and fancy?
b. Are you confusing "HTML 2.0" with the buzzword "Web 2.0?"
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No, I'm not confusing HTML 2.0 with Web 2.0.
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

[Beauregard wrote: (you are still stripping attributes)]
I find these ancient rules better than those of today. Why does
everything have to be new and fancy?
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So why do you want the dullest of dull pages?
No, I'm not confusing HTML 2.0 with Web 2.0.
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Ok then. Read the following link and start writing using your favorite
text editor.

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_toc.html

I doubt if you will find any current "WYSISYMG" applications that will
adhere to 2.0 rules.

Note the source at the above link. Copy it.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0 Strict Level 2//EN"><HTML>
<HEAD>
<!-- This HTML file has been created by texi2html 1.36
from html-spec.texi on 18 October 1995 -->
 
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Jonathan N. Little

[Beauregard wrote: (*reply attributes restored*)]
a. Do you want to author pages with ancient rules (and why)?
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I find these ancient rules better than those of today. Why does
everything have to be new and fancy?
b. Are you confusing "HTML 2.0" with the buzzword "Web 2.0?"
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No, I'm not confusing HTML 2.0 with Web 2.0.
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Well I guess you won't be using nasty layers nor abusing tables for layout!
 
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erkkikosonen

Well I guess you won't be using nasty layers nor abusing tables for layout!
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Absolutely not. Tables don't even show correctly with many browsers. I
can also still remember the Netscape version that showed a blank page
instead of the table on the page.
 
T

Toby A Inkster

erkkikosonen said:
Does someone know a free, downloadable HTML 2.0 editor/composer for
Windows? It would be nice if it followed the HTML 2.0 standard.
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HTML 2.0?! Please, just to satisfy my curiosity... why?

You could try the Composer component in some of the really early versions
of Netscape -- I don't know when it was first introduced -- possibly in
Netscape 3.x -- maybe that's too modern.

Perhaps a very early version of HoTMetaL?

A better approach might be to try one of these in-browser HTML editing
components such as widgEditor or TinyMCE. With these, you control the
toolbar buttons, so you can specifically only add buttons for the elements
you want (i.e. elements which exist in HTML 2.0). These tend to output
XHTML, but you can then process that server-side to convert it back into
HTML 2.0.

There are probably some SGML editors that allow for editing documents
conforming to a particular DTD, but these won't allow you WYSIWYG editing.

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[Geek of HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python/Apache/Linux]
[OS: Linux 2.6.12-12mdksmp, up 114 days, 33 min.]

You're Not Allowed to Take Pictures of the US Embassy in Rome
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/blog/2007/06/16/us-embassy/
 
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Jonathan N. Little

Absolutely not. Tables don't even show correctly with many browsers.
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You're joking right? My point is HTML 2 don't have tables, and I made a
slip, should be frames not layers, layers where never part of any
version of the spec.

I
can also still remember the Netscape version that showed a blank page
instead of the table on the page.
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Yeah back in Mosaic days maybe.
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Jonathan said:
Yeah back in Mosaic days maybe.
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As I remember, Netscape would not display a table if any parts of
elements were missing, such as </table>. The page would only be blank if
everything inside <body> was in that table.

Good ole HTML 2.0 ... I think I'll switch tomorrow.
 
C

cwdjrxyz

I find these ancient rules better than those of today. Why does
everything have to be new and fancy?


No, I'm not confusing HTML 2.0 with Web 2.0.
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Once you write a HTML 2.0 page by hand or using an editor, be sure to
validate it at the W3C validator. It will validate a HTML 2.0 page
still. This will help you prevent using any more modern tags that a
less than perfect editor might allow. If you select extended interface
at the validator, it will let you select the correct DOCTYPE for HTML
2.0 if some nasty old editor does not put one in your code. When you
have a really good HTML 2.0 page that validates, post the url so we
can see it. I have never written a HTML 2.0 page and do not even
recall seeing one. There are still a few HTML 3.2 pages around, but I
seldom see them these days.
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

Beauregard said:
As I remember, Netscape would not display a table if any parts of
elements were missing, such as </table>. The page would only be blank if
everything inside <body> was in that table.
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Well Netscape 4.x was like that, I have a copy of 4.6 for testing. But
it *will* show a table if giving valid markup. But I don't know what the
OP is talking about with browsers having trouble with tables in general...
Good ole HTML 2.0 ... I think I'll switch tomorrow.
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Heck, go one better, plain old text!
 
N

Neredbojias

I find these ancient rules better than those of today. Why does
everything have to be new and fancy?
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Yeah. I liked it better when the Earth was flat, too. 'Didn't roll off
the bed so much when I came home Friday nights.
 
D

dorayme

Toby A Inkster said:
There are probably some SGML editors that allow for editing documents
conforming to a particular DTD, but these won't allow you WYSIWYG editing.
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Reasonably modern Mac BBEdit has a doctype option:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//BBSW//DTD Compact HTML 2.0//EN">

and a validator function when you are done, perhaps an earlier
version of BBEdit or Textwrangler + a close attention to BTS's
reference to the specs would be fun for any Mac person who shares
the OPs curiosity?
 
D

dorayme

Neredbojias said:
Yeah. I liked it better when the Earth was flat, too. 'Didn't roll off
the bed so much when I came home Friday nights.
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No, you have it wrong. It is more like the desire for simpler
older cars than something idiotically irrational.
 

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