HTML Editor

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Phonedude

I have been using Notepad to edit the website I've volunteered to create and
maintain -- http://www.mclriverview.org and have finally got to the point
where I am looking for something a little more efficient to use. I see some
good things about Coffeecup, but was wondering what the experienced users of
this group use. Note that I am not yet interested in Java or scripting and
have been simply maintaining my CSS and HTML in notepad and for now that's
all I want to enhance.

Larry
 
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array7

I have been using Notepad to edit the website I've volunteered to create and
maintain --http://www.mclriverview.organd have finally got to the point
where I am looking for something a little more efficient to use.  I see some
good things about Coffeecup, but was wondering what the experienced users of
this group use.  Note that I am not yet interested in Java or scripting and
have been simply maintaining my CSS and HTML in notepad  and for now that's
all I want to enhance.

Larry

I've been looking for one myself and unfortunately as soon as you
start going across platform and scripting (server-side) you quickly
run out of options.

I ended up being back to text editors.

Old Mozilla (pre-Firefox) had a fairly decent editor though, not 100%
WYSIWYG, but close. And you could always generate HTML that was
working in IE in it.
And you could also grab a page from the web and edit it without too
much overhead, like a billion folders etc.
 
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Chris F.A. Johnson

I have been using Notepad to edit the website I've volunteered to create and
maintain -- http://www.mclriverview.org and have finally got to the point
where I am looking for something a little more efficient to use. I see some
good things about Coffeecup, but was wondering what the experienced users of
this group use. Note that I am not yet interested in Java or scripting and
have been simply maintaining my CSS and HTML in notepad and for now that's
all I want to enhance.

GNU emacs
 
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Nik Coughlin

Phonedude said:
I have been using Notepad to edit the website I've volunteered to create
and maintain -- http://www.mclriverview.org and have finally got to the
point where I am looking for something a little more efficient to use. I
see some good things about Coffeecup, but was wondering what the
experienced users of this group use. Note that I am not yet interested in
Java or scripting and have been simply maintaining my CSS and HTML in
notepad and for now that's all I want to enhance.

Notepad++
 
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Raymond SCHMIT

I have been using Notepad to edit the website I've volunteered to create and
maintain -- http://www.mclriverview.org and have finally got to the point
where I am looking for something a little more efficient to use. I see some
good things about Coffeecup, but was wondering what the experienced users of
this group use. Note that I am not yet interested in Java or scripting and
have been simply maintaining my CSS and HTML in notepad and for now that's
all I want to enhance.
notepad++ let you change a string in all the files you selected

http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/ will permit you a good approach
 
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Travis Newbury

UltraEdit.  It will pay for itself on the first day in increased
efficiency. yet it is still a *text* editor, not a WYSIWYMG HTML
editor...

Is this not the same guy (no pun intended) that thought that notepad
had too many features...
 
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Phonedude

Thanks to all of you for the input. Right now I'm going with the free
version of coffeecup -- what I see so far I like.

Larry
 
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David Segall

Phonedude said:
Thanks to all of you for the input. Right now I'm going with the free
version of coffeecup -- what I see so far I like.
Please report back here. I tried it some time ago and it was
impossible to switch between the text view and the WYSIWYG view
without exiting the editor.
 
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Phonedude

David Segall said:
Please report back here. I tried it some time ago and it was
impossible to switch between the text view and the WYSIWYG view
without exiting the editor.

The WYSIWYG editor is not included with the free version. I may upgrade at
a later date, but for right now I just use the text editor and preview the
results.

Larry
 
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Chris F.A. Johnson

Hear! Hear!
Do you think that http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/ will also produce
"crappy code" ?

I just downloaded it and created a simple page.

The first annoyance I encountered was that it would not let me
have an empty alt attribute in an <img> tag, (Perhaps this is
configurable?)

The page it produced has 8 HTML errors. Here's the page:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html><head><meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="content-type"><title>hw.html</title></head><body style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 153, 102);" alink="#000099" link="#000099" vlink="#990099">Hello, World Wide Web!<br><br><img style="width: 104px; height: 104px;" alt="x" src="file:///home/chris/public_html/Images/4n-t.gif"></body></html>
 
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Chaddy2222

    Hear! Hear!


    I just downloaded it and created a simple page.

    The first annoyance I encountered was that it would not let me
    have an empty alt attribute in an <img> tag, (Perhaps this is
    configurable?)

    The page it produced has 8 HTML errors. Here's the page:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html><head><meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="content-type"><title>hw.html</title></head><body style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 153, 102);" alink="#000099" link="#000099" vlink="#990099">Hello, World Wide Web!<br><br><img style="width: 104px; height: 104px;" alt="x" src="file:///home/chris/public_html/Images/4n-t.gif"></body></html>
To answer your question, you can tell the editor not to include alt
text, by clicking the dialog box that says, include alt text for
images or something like that. You need to un-check or check it
depending on what you want. I always add alt text to images anyway
even though at times you do not need it as much (such as for photo
galleries).
 
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Chris F.A. Johnson

To answer your question, you can tell the editor not to include alt
text, by clicking the dialog box that says, include alt text for
images or something like that. You need to un-check or check it
depending on what you want. I always add alt text to images anyway
even though at times you do not need it as much (such as for photo
galleries).

I don't know how I missed that check box.

But I don't understand why it is there. What's wrong with simply
leaving the field blank if you don't want any alt text? Komposer
puts in an empty alt attribute if there's no text (as it should).
 
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Chris F.A. Johnson

Now let's see, _you_ fucked up so it is the editor's fault for including an
option you believe should default automatically. Uh huh...

Where did I say that? All I said is that the button is
unnecessary.
 
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Helpful person

On 2008-07-29, Raymond SCHMIT wrote:


    The first annoyance I encountered was that it would not let me
    have an empty alt attribute in an <img> tag, (Perhaps this is
    configurable?)

    The page it produced has 8 HTML errors. Here's the page:
The alt attribute is required for the img tag, hence it should not be
empty. If it is left empty it will generate HTML errors.
 
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Chris F.A. Johnson

The alt attribute is required for the img tag, hence it should not be
empty. If it is left empty it will generate HTML errors.

Wrong.

It may be empty, but it must be there.
 
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Adrienne Boswell

That would limit the choices to empty alt and alt with text.
The button is there so the user can choose to have no alt at all.

HTML 4.01 says "The alt attribute must be specified for the IMG and AREA
elements. It is optional for the INPUT and APPLET elements"
 
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dorayme

Guy Macon said:
Is the HTML editor in question advertised as being only for
HTML 4.01? Or can it be used to create pages in HTML 2.0 or
ISO/IEC 15445:2000 HTML?

Very important that it can use HTML 2, no web development environment is
complete without this. I think I might drive my T model Ford to have my
afternoon swim today... must not forget to pack my more modest bathers
from the 1920's... and load up my iPod with some Charleston...
 

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