HTML email and images

Discussion in 'HTML' started by Jay, Feb 24, 2004.

  1. Jay

    Jay Guest

    Hello all!

    We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML format
    that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and using
    MS Outlook to send the email. However, when we send the email a copy of the
    images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.

    We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would like
    them to load from the web server instead of being sent as attachments.

    Is there a way to do this? Perhaps some software that we should purchase?

    Thank you,

    - J
     
    Jay, Feb 24, 2004
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  2. Jay

    Steve R. Guest

    Jay wrote in message ...
    > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML
    > format


    A lot of people nowadays won't accept incoming HTML emails because they are
    mostly SPAM orientated.

    > We are hosting the images on our web server and using
    > MS Outlook to send the email.


    MS Outlook often messes things up. Better to use Outlook Express if you
    really have to.

    > However, when we send the email a copy of the
    > images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.


    'Cos your using MS Outlook.

    > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would
    > like them to load from the web server instead of being sent as
    > attachments.


    Which ever way you send them people can still copy them, as soon as they
    can see them on their browsers.
     
    Steve R., Feb 24, 2004
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  3. Jay

    Jay Guest

    "Steve R." <stevie_ritchie(NOSPAM)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:dsM_b.1218$...
    > Jay wrote in message ...
    > > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML
    > > format

    >
    > A lot of people nowadays won't accept incoming HTML emails because they

    are
    > mostly SPAM orientated.


    The only way a person would receive it is if they subscribed. There is also
    a text-only version for those who do not accept HTML emails though.

    > > We are hosting the images on our web server and using
    > > MS Outlook to send the email.

    >
    > MS Outlook often messes things up. Better to use Outlook Express if you
    > really have to.
    >
    > > However, when we send the email a copy of the
    > > images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.

    >
    > 'Cos your using MS Outlook.
    >
    > > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would
    > > like them to load from the web server instead of being sent as
    > > attachments.

    >
    > Which ever way you send them people can still copy them, as soon as they
    > can see them on their browsers.


    That's not an issue. People can do whatever they want with the images :) We
    just don't want them to come as attachments.

    I'll give your MS Outlook Express suggestion a try and see how that works.

    Thanks :)

    - J
     
    Jay, Feb 24, 2004
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  4. Jay

    Augustus Guest

    "Jay" <> wrote in message
    news:%dM_b.53$...
    > Hello all!
    >
    > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML format
    > that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and

    using
    > MS Outlook to send the email. However, when we send the email a copy of

    the
    > images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.
    >
    > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would

    like
    > them to load from the web server instead of being sent as attachments.
    >
    > Is there a way to do this? Perhaps some software that we should purchase?


    Pretty much disregard the reply about Outlook vs Outlook Express... in
    either case it would send the image as an attachment

    What you want to do is: In your html email you want to specify the full URL
    of the image you want to include, IE:

    <img src="http://www.your-server-name-here.com/images/image-to-show.gif"
    alt="ABC Corporation Logo">

    That will include the image in your HTML email, but won't send it as an
    attachment
     
    Augustus, Feb 24, 2004
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  5. Jay

    Steve R. Guest

    Augustus wrote in message ...
    > Pretty much disregard the reply about Outlook vs Outlook Express... in
    > either case it would send the image as an attachment.


    Emails sent by MS Outlook *do* make things worse.

    Images would only be sent as an attachment if the person requests *Plain
    Text* emails.

    If an HTML (Rich Text) email is generated using Outlook Express the images
    can be embedded into the email and received still embedded in that that
    email provided the recipient has enabled HTML emails.

    For some odd reason Rich-Text emails generated in MS Outlook mess up this
    process.

    I have convinced several people who previously used MS Outlook to abandon
    that method, in favour of using Outlook Express when sending HTML emails,
    as they often did not work when composed in MS Outlook.

    > What you want to do is: In your html email you want to specify the full

    URL
    > of the image you want to include, IE:
    > That will include the image in your HTML email, but won't send it as an
    > attachment.


    Not if the person requests Plain Text emails only.
     
    Steve R., Feb 24, 2004
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  6. Jay

    Jay Guest

    "Augustus" <> wrote in message
    news:c1g5ps$1i9k2e$-berlin.de...
    >
    > "Jay" <> wrote in message
    > news:%dM_b.53$...
    > > Hello all!
    > >
    > > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML

    format
    > > that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and

    > using
    > > MS Outlook to send the email. However, when we send the email a copy of

    > the
    > > images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.
    > >
    > > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would

    > like
    > > them to load from the web server instead of being sent as attachments.
    > >
    > > Is there a way to do this? Perhaps some software that we should

    purchase?
    >
    > Pretty much disregard the reply about Outlook vs Outlook Express... in
    > either case it would send the image as an attachment


    Actually, we tried with Outlook Express and it does not send the images as
    an attachment.

    > What you want to do is: In your html email you want to specify the full

    URL
    > of the image you want to include, IE:
    >
    > <img src="http://www.your-server-name-here.com/images/image-to-show.gif"
    > alt="ABC Corporation Logo">


    I stated in my original post that we are hosting the images on our web
    server. We already specify the full URL of the image. MS Outlook still
    attaches a copy of that image as an attachment while MS Outlook Express does
    not.

    > That will include the image in your HTML email, but won't send it as an
    > attachment


    It sends as an attachment.

    Have you tried any of your suggestions?
     
    Jay, Feb 24, 2004
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  7. Jay

    Augustus Guest

    "Jay" <> wrote in message
    news:RDN_b.64$...
    >
    > "Augustus" <> wrote in message
    > news:c1g5ps$1i9k2e$-berlin.de...
    > >
    > > "Jay" <> wrote in message
    > > news:%dM_b.53$...
    > > > Hello all!
    > > >
    > > > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML

    > format
    > > > that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and

    > > using
    > > > MS Outlook to send the email. However, when we send the email a copy

    of
    > > the
    > > > images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.
    > > >
    > > > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we

    would
    > > like
    > > > them to load from the web server instead of being sent as attachments.
    > > >
    > > > Is there a way to do this? Perhaps some software that we should

    > purchase?
    > >
    > > Pretty much disregard the reply about Outlook vs Outlook Express... in
    > > either case it would send the image as an attachment

    >
    > Actually, we tried with Outlook Express and it does not send the images as
    > an attachment.
    >
    > > What you want to do is: In your html email you want to specify the full

    > URL
    > > of the image you want to include, IE:
    > >
    > > <img src="http://www.your-server-name-here.com/images/image-to-show.gif"
    > > alt="ABC Corporation Logo">

    >
    > I stated in my original post that we are hosting the images on our web
    > server. We already specify the full URL of the image. MS Outlook still
    > attaches a copy of that image as an attachment while MS Outlook Express

    does
    > not.
    >
    > > That will include the image in your HTML email, but won't send it as an
    > > attachment

    >
    > It sends as an attachment.
    >
    > Have you tried any of your suggestions?


    Yes

    What you are probably doing here is using either program (Outlook or Outlook
    Express) to create the emails to send out?

    If you are using Outlook Express and use the INSERT >> IMAGE...command for
    an image, the image is encoded into message (similar to how a binary file is
    included into a usenet message)

    Encoding the image into the email does work, but it also increases the
    emails size by the size of the image, while providing a link such as <img
    src="http://www.mysite.com/image/image.jpg"> only increases the emails size
    by a couple of bytes (when the email is viewed it will download the image
    from your server)

    If you are using Outlook Express, to edit the HTML source of an email open
    the email message (or create a new one) and then under VIEW check "SOURCE
    EDIT" and that will add 3 tabs to the bottom of your email

    If you click on the SOURCE tab you can see the HTML source for the image,
    where you can effectively write your email up as a web page and include
    coding like <img src="http://www.mysite.com/image/image.jpg">
     
    Augustus, Feb 24, 2004
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  8. Jay wrote:

    > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we
    > would like them to load from the web server instead of being sent as
    > attachments.



    I havent done this, but you could try to create a "theme" that has
    background images. I am not sure if Outlook sends these backgrounds as
    attachments, maybe play around with something like that.
     
    Disco Octopus, Feb 24, 2004
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    > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML
    > format that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web


    Both html emails and OE are bad (especialy OE), but if You realy must,

    > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we
    > would like them to load from the web server instead of being sent as
    > attachments.


    ....just create a .html file with <imm src="http://your-server/......"

    Or You can write a PHP script (or other server-side) to automaticly compose
    and send scripts for You.

    In fact I might try to help (as a small job) but this is not a toppic for
    newsgroup so please email me if You wish.

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    Rafal 'Raf256' Maj, Feb 25, 2004
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  10. Jay

    Mark Parnell Guest

    On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:55:07 GMT, "Jay" <> declared in
    alt.html:

    > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML format
    > that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and using


    I find that really annoying, personally. I often download my email then
    read it later, when offline. If the images are only on the server, I
    keep getting messages telling me it can't get them and do I want to
    connect. Very annoying.

    --
    Mark Parnell
    http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
     
    Mark Parnell, Feb 25, 2004
    #10
  11. Jay

    Jay Guest

    "Mark Parnell" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:55:07 GMT, "Jay" <> declared in
    > alt.html:
    >
    > > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML

    format
    > > that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and

    using
    >
    > I find that really annoying, personally. I often download my email then
    > read it later, when offline. If the images are only on the server, I
    > keep getting messages telling me it can't get them and do I want to
    > connect. Very annoying.


    That's your preference. Some users say that they don't want to store the
    images of every email newsletter they subscribe to on their hard drive.
    Especially when they save many of them them and read them later.

    - J
     
    Jay, Feb 25, 2004
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  12. Jay

    Mark Parnell Guest

    On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:33:46 GMT, "Jay" <> declared in
    alt.html:

    > That's your preference. Some users say that they don't want to store the
    > images of every email newsletter they subscribe to on their hard drive.
    > Especially when they save many of them them and read them later.


    Sure. Everyone has different preferences. You can't please everyone. I
    guess I was just pointing out that not all your users may be happy with
    the solution you are pursuing. :)

    --
    Mark Parnell
    http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
     
    Mark Parnell, Feb 25, 2004
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  13. Jay

    Jay Guest

    "Mark Parnell" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:ldw58gofil8$...
    > On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:33:46 GMT, "Jay" <> declared in
    > alt.html:
    >
    > You can't please everyone.


    That's what sucks ;-)

    - J
     
    Jay, Feb 26, 2004
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