HTML-Windows question

[DU]

DU wrote:




Of course not, what happens has nothing to do with the code and
everything with whatever is the default action for the selected way of
invoking, this is particular to one user and his UA.




Your preference, not mine. Don't tell users what they should like.

I'm not telling users what they should like. I'm warning/notifying them
fair and square that clicking this thumbnail or link will open the
resource in a separate window or will re-use an already opened one.

My main message in all the threads I've participated regarding this
issue of new window can be summed upt to this: when I code a link to
open a resource in a new windw (or reuse an already opened one) - and
here, I assume that such webdesign decision is mature -, I warn the user
fair and square about this (with an icon and title attribute) and I
carefully make sure that all other options (other opening modes; js
disabled; user prefs; hidden prefs; etc.) he may choose will work for
him if he decides to go for any other option he chooses. I don't impose
a preference; I make my code work along with the user's decision. The
user should always have the last word, the veto regarding such issues.

The difference between Whitecrest and me is that he does not care and he
does not bother about usability and does not care much about
accessibility: it's *his* way otherwise the user is on his own.

One last thing. I practise what I preach in newsgroups. Just wanted to
make that absolutely clear.

DU

 

[Whitecrest]

The difference between Whitecrest and me is that he does not care and he
does not bother about usability and does not care much about
accessibility: it's *his* way otherwise the user is on his own....

No that's not true at all. In most cases (and virtually all where the
web site is directly responsible for income) Usability, and
accessibility is very important.

But at the same time, a site that is not directly tied to income then
they can do what ever they like to please their visitors. EVEN if this
means it will not work on everyone's browser

 

[Chuck]

My content not your

Thats a given, but I am suggesting new window, it you like it that way
you do nothing, if you know no better, you do nothing. If you have
taken the time to change some configuration file on your system that
allows you to over ride that functionality, then fine. Have at it, and
more power to you. Enjoy.

All of this reminds me of when I wanted to convert my Dodge 1/2 ton to a 3/4
ton dually to haul my RV. The dealer told me that it cannot be done. Of
course, a friend of mine who builds and restores cars as a hobby explained
that it can be done (a lot of work, but possible). Anything can be done. But
there are always the die hards who want it done to their specs (ie: Dodge -
who says it can't be done because they don't want it done).

Chuck

 

[Chuck]

own
original website

A blind or vision-impaired user will probably lose sight of the original
website when suddenly they can't just use their back command, and they can't
just look at a taskbar to see that a new window is opened? Some audio
readers announce a new window but not all and it's easy to miss it.

Maybe I'm missing something, but, if Tina is publishing a site that is
primarily Flash content, odds are that your average blind person won't be
browsing there. I can't remember the last time I came across a blind person
searching for a site that caters to visual effects.

Chuck

 

[Chuck]

That's exactly what he said! If YOU want it to open in a new window, go
right ahead! Why force your likes and dislikes on your user?!

Probably for the same reason that my local newspaper puts the national stuff
in the front page headlines and the local news (that I am interested in) in
a different section way in the back. Because they own the paper and get to
decide how it's laid out. I have the choice of buying another paper if I
don't like it.

Chuck

 

[Isofarro]

Maybe I'm missing something, but, if Tina is publishing a site that is
primarily Flash content, odds are that your average blind person won't be
browsing there. I can't remember the last time I came across a blind
person searching for a site that caters to visual effects.

So Flash is now suddenly only about catering "to visual effects"? My, how
the mighty have fallen.

 

[Isofarro]

Probably for the same reason that my local newspaper puts the national
stuff in the front page headlines and the local news (that I am interested
in) in a different section way in the back. Because they own the paper and
get to decide how it's laid out.

No. The reason why local newspapers lay out their paper beforehand is that
it is printed on paper before it ever reaches your grubby little paws. The
web is quite a different medium, the application of a "design" happens
after all the content and stylesheets have been downloaded to your grubby
little browser. The user at that point still has the choice to ignore your
"design".

 

[Toby A Inkster]

No. The reason why local newspapers lay out their paper beforehand is that
it is printed on paper before it ever reaches your grubby little paws. The
web is quite a different medium, the application of a "design" happens
after all the content and stylesheets have been downloaded to your grubby
little browser. The user at that point still has the choice to ignore your
"design".

Further to that though, newspapers are starting to allow the user some
choice in how articles are presented! Some prominent UK nationals have
started publishing in both broadsheet and tabloid formats.

 

[Whitecrest]

Further to that though, newspapers are starting to allow the user some
choice in how articles are presented! Some prominent UK nationals have
started publishing in both broadsheet and tabloid formats.

When you take a few steps back you can really see how funny (and
pointless) this argument really is.

 

[Isofarro]

Further to that though, newspapers are starting to allow the user some
choice in how articles are presented! Some prominent UK nationals have
started publishing in both broadsheet and tabloid formats.

More than that. Do you realise that most of the major newspapers in the UK
actually have both large print and braille copies?

 

[brucie]

More than that. Do you realise that most of the major newspapers in the UK
actually have both large print and braille copies?

in oz any paper and a lot of magazines will be produced in braille or
audio tape on request. free to those that require such products.