I don't see changes right away on real web server

Discussion in 'HTML' started by Big Daddy, Jan 30, 2008.

  1. Big Daddy

    Big Daddy Guest

    I live in Africa and am doing a website for a small organization
    here. Our web server is in North America. When I change a static
    file (e.g. html, css, jpg) on the web server and then go to look at
    the page using my web browser, it usually takes a couple days for me
    to see the change. Until then, I just see the old content. It's very
    annoying because I want to see the changes and make sure they are
    correct from the real web server, not just on my box. So it's getting
    cached somewhere, probably one of these places:

    The web server is still serving the old content
    There is a server somewhere in between the web server and our LAN that
    is caching the content
    The proxy server in our LAN is caching the content
    My computer is caching the content

    The content that is or is not cached can be different depending
    whether I look at the page in IE or Firefox. It can also be different
    depending on whether I access it by http://domain.com or http://www.domain.com
    (i.e. adding the www in the URL can change it). The content of our
    non-static pages (i.e. PHP) don't seem to be cached and experience the
    same delay.

    So my questions are:

    - What is the most likely cause of my problem?
    - Is there any way for me to fix the problem so I see the updates
    immediately?

    thanks
    John
    Big Daddy, Jan 30, 2008
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  2. Big Daddy

    Els Guest

    Big Daddy wrote:

    > I live in Africa and am doing a website for a small organization
    > here. Our web server is in North America. When I change a static
    > file (e.g. html, css, jpg) on the web server and then go to look at
    > the page using my web browser, it usually takes a couple days for me
    > to see the change. Until then, I just see the old content. It's very
    > annoying because I want to see the changes and make sure they are
    > correct from the real web server, not just on my box. So it's getting
    > cached somewhere, probably one of these places:
    >
    > The web server is still serving the old content
    > There is a server somewhere in between the web server and our LAN that
    > is caching the content
    > The proxy server in our LAN is caching the content
    > My computer is caching the content
    >
    > The content that is or is not cached can be different depending
    > whether I look at the page in IE or Firefox. It can also be different
    > depending on whether I access it by http://domain.com or http://www.domain.com
    > (i.e. adding the www in the URL can change it). The content of our
    > non-static pages (i.e. PHP) don't seem to be cached and experience the
    > same delay.
    >
    > So my questions are:
    >
    > - What is the most likely cause of my problem?
    > - Is there any way for me to fix the problem so I see the updates
    > immediately?


    I'd first determine which of the above possibilities it is.

    Your computer: empty your cache.

    To see if it's the webserver, let someone on a different continent
    look at a certain page, then upload a changed version, and let that
    someone check if changes are applied. If yes, then you can eliminate
    the webserver.

    For the proxy in your LAN: can't you bypass it to check?

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    Els http://locusmeus.com/
    Els, Jan 30, 2008
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    Chaddy2222 Guest

    On Jan 30, 8:41 pm, Els <> wrote:
    > Big Daddy wrote:
    > > I live in Africa and am doing a website for a small organization
    > > here.  Our web server is in North America.  When I change a static
    > > file (e.g. html, css, jpg) on the web server and then go to look at
    > > the page using my web browser, it usually takes a couple days for me
    > > to see the change.  Until then, I just see the old content.  It's very
    > > annoying because I want to see the changes and make sure they are
    > > correct from the real web server, not just on my box.  So it's getting
    > > cached somewhere, probably one of these places:

    >
    > > The web server is still serving the old content
    > > There is a server somewhere in between the web server and our LAN that
    > > is caching the content
    > > The proxy server in our LAN is caching the content
    > > My computer is caching the content

    >
    > > The content that is or is not cached can be different depending
    > > whether I look at the page in IE or Firefox.  It can also be different
    > > depending on whether I access it byhttp://domain.comorhttp://www.domain.com
    > > (i.e. adding the www in the URL can change it).  The content of our
    > > non-static pages (i.e. PHP) don't seem to be cached and experience the
    > > same delay.

    >
    > > So my questions are:

    >
    > > - What is the most likely cause of my problem?
    > > - Is there any way for me to fix the problem so I see the updates
    > > immediately?

    >
    > I'd first determine which of the above possibilities it is.
    >
    > Your computer: empty your cache.
    >
    > To see if it's the webserver, let someone on a different continent
    > look at a certain page, then upload a changed version, and let that
    > someone check if changes are applied. If yes, then you can eliminate
    > the webserver.
    >
    > For the proxy in your LAN: can't you bypass it to check?
    >

    What I notice with my University proxxy when I use it is that, I need
    to refresh the web browser whenever I make a change.
    --
    Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
    Chaddy2222, Jan 30, 2008
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  4. Big Daddy

    Guest

    On Jan 30, 12:41 pm, Els <> wrote:
    >
    > I'd first determine which of the above possibilities it is.
    >
    > Your computer: empty your cache.
    >
    > To see if it's the webserver, let someone on a different continent
    > look at a certain page, then upload a changed version, and let that
    > someone check if changes are applied. If yes, then you can eliminate
    > the webserver.
    >
    > For the proxy in your LAN: can't you bypass it to check?
    >
    > --
    > Els                    http://locusmeus.com/- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I think the problem is some sort of server somewhere in between the
    hosting web server and us. I did an experiment when I wasn't seeing
    the change right away. Emptying my cache didn't help, and another
    person who lives in the same city as me coudn't see the changes
    either. But someone back in America could see the changes
    immediately. So who could be caching it, and is there any way to stop
    this?

    thanks
    John
    , Mar 4, 2008
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