I finally won a pop-up battle

[Adrienne Boswell]

On May 1, 2006, I was trying to get rid of small, unnecessary pop-up
windows. I posted to this group [http://tinyurl.com/ykd7yhx - goes to
Google groups post], and got great answers, but, up until a week ago, I
was still fighting a losing battle. Finally, after all these years, the
boss said,

"Hey, I like the way you can click on the product link, and it goes to a
full page of information!"

I guess I was smiling too much, and the boss said, "What you are you so
happy about?"

I said, "I've been trying to get rid of those stupid pop-ups for 5 years,
and now, I finally did it!",

She wrinkled her brow and said "What! The little pop-up windows that I
liked so much? They're gone? Oh no!",

And I said, "Too late! I didn't make a backup"

I lied, I always make backups, but don't tell her. Thanks, I just had to
share this.

 

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On May 1, 2006, I was trying to get rid of small, unnecessary pop-up
windows. I posted to this group [http://tinyurl.com/ykd7yhx - goes to
Google groups post], and got great answers, but, up until a week ago, I
was still fighting a losing battle. Finally, after all these years, the
boss said,

"Hey, I like the way you can click on the product link, and it goes to a
full page of information!"

I guess I was smiling too much, and the boss said, "What you are you so
happy about?"

I said, "I've been trying to get rid of those stupid pop-ups for 5 years,
and now, I finally did it!",

She wrinkled her brow and said "What! The little pop-up windows that I
liked so much? They're gone? Oh no!",

And I said, "Too late! I didn't make a backup"

I lied, I always make backups, but don't tell her.

Let's hope she doesn't follow this group! (However, I suppose that's
pretty safe.)

 

[Adrienne Boswell]

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Athel Cornish-Bowden

On May 1, 2006, I was trying to get rid of small, unnecessary pop-up
windows. I posted to this group [http://tinyurl.com/ykd7yhx - goes
to Google groups post], and got great answers, but, up until a week
ago, I was still fighting a losing battle. Finally, after all these
years, the boss said,

"Hey, I like the way you can click on the product link, and it goes
to a full page of information!"

I guess I was smiling too much, and the boss said, "What you are you
so happy about?"

I said, "I've been trying to get rid of those stupid pop-ups for 5
years, and now, I finally did it!",

She wrinkled her brow and said "What! The little pop-up windows that
I liked so much? They're gone? Oh no!",

And I said, "Too late! I didn't make a backup"

I lied, I always make backups, but don't tell her.

Let's hope she doesn't follow this group! (However, I suppose that's
pretty safe.)

No, she's under the impression that Usenet is Chat - although I have told
her many times it isn't. She doesn't like to chat - not even on the
phone.

 

[Adrienne Boswell]

On May 1, 2006, I was trying to get rid of small, unnecessary pop-up
windows. I posted to this group [http://tinyurl.com/ykd7yhx - goes to
Google groups post], and got great answers, but, up until a week ago,
I was still fighting a losing battle. Finally, after all these years,
the boss said,

"Hey, I like the way you can click on the product link, and it goes to
a full page of information!"

I guess I was smiling too much, and the boss said, "What you are you
so happy about?"

I said, "I've been trying to get rid of those stupid pop-ups for 5
years, and now, I finally did it!",

She wrinkled her brow and said "What! The little pop-up windows that I
liked so much? They're gone? Oh no!",

And I said, "Too late! I didn't make a backup"

I lied, I always make backups, but don't tell her. Thanks, I just had
to share this.

I can't help it, I have to jump in here and ask a question. Your
Boss, is she the one that pays your salary to make the website you're
talking about? OR did I tune in late and miss that part?

She had her way to five years, actually 8 because I did not start a
remake until I had already worked for her to three years. For the entire
8 years I complained about the pop-ups.

I can't help but think that if she is paying the bill, it should be
the way SHE likes it.

She wanted pop-unders [http://tinyurl.com/y9699pc - goes to an earlier
post] in January of 2002, but thanks to this group, she saw the error of
her ways. I think it might have been the bit about old boy friends that
Jerry Muelver posted that did the trick.

If I missed something, Sorry.

I think you may be missed the part about it being so long ago, and how
through perseverance, anything can be obtained.

 

[Raymond Schmit]

Most assuredly not. Your job is to do the job RIGHT. If that takes
misleading the boss who know nothing about design, that's just fine.

Working in opposition with the boss - is NOT a good idea.
If you cannot convince the boss that your solution is better, you MUST
apply the boss solution !!!

 

[dorayme]

Working in opposition with the boss - is NOT a good idea.
If you cannot convince the boss that your solution is better, you MUST
apply the boss solution !!!

It depends. If you are an independent contractor, you can simply
not do something you think is quite bad. Naturally, if you are
too frightened to lose the work, this makes it hard but generally
you will be more respected if you make it clear that there are
lines which you will not cross. It is best to make this clear
when getting the job in the first place. You do not have to
specify details just indicate that there will be times that you
will not do what is wanted in the manner imagined by the person
giving you the contract.

 

[Adrienne Boswell]

It depends. If you are an independent contractor, you can simply
not do something you think is quite bad. Naturally, if you are
too frightened to lose the work, this makes it hard but generally
you will be more respected if you make it clear that there are
lines which you will not cross. It is best to make this clear
when getting the job in the first place. You do not have to
specify details just indicate that there will be times that you
will not do what is wanted in the manner imagined by the person
giving you the contract.

Well, this is originally my thread, so I'll jump back in.

I've been working for this lady for almost ten years. A lot has
happened in that time:
1. She stopped using IE because I finally convinced her that it was a
shitty browser. I got her to use Firefox - she won't go as far as
Opera, thinks it's too techy.
2. Her eyes aren't as good as they used to be. She now remarks that the
font size she insisted on years ago is hard to read.
3. She got a trackball instead of a mouse, and has learned mouse
gestures. Pages opening unexpectedly in new tabs is annoying now, as it
breaks the back gesture/button.

Of course, some can't/won't change:
1. She insists on signing as --signature
2. She insists on all replies to her be top posted, and has a fit if
someone replies inline to her. Forget about a bottom reply!
3. She insists on using a little image as part of her signature. I
should be happy, at least she doesn't use a background image and music!

I've had it out with her a few times. When I was pregnant, I left for
two years. Then I came back and stayed for a year, and left for another
year.

We have an unusual employer/employee relationship. As on old friend of
mine used to say, we're making two people miserable instead of four.
We're very close, I think my son is in love with her (he's six). All in
all, she's a good boss, and I'm lucky to be working with her.

 

[Neredbojias]

Working in opposition with the boss - is NOT a good idea.

I agree with Lewie on this one. And you don't actually have to
*convince* the boss per se. I've found that telling the boss you'll
kick his ass tends to resolves almost all conflicts of this nature,
especially if you make a mean face and are playing with a switchblade
or brass knuckles when uttering it. True, a few women don't get it,
but that's when you go to Rent-A-Rat.

If you cannot convince the boss that your solution is better, you
MUST apply the boss solution !!!

Nah, I don't think so.

 

[Adrienne Boswell]

True, a few women don't get it,
but that's when you go to Rent-A-Rat.

Sorry, that won't work with me:
[http://my.opera.com/arbpen/blog/2009/01/10/rolo-the-mouse-catcher]

 

[Raymond Schmit]

I agree with Lewie on this one. And you don't actually have to
*convince* the boss per se. I've found that telling the boss you'll
kick his ass tends to resolves almost all conflicts of this nature,
especially if you make a mean face and are playing with a switchblade
or brass knuckles when uttering it. True, a few women don't get it,
but that's when you go to Rent-A-Rat.


Nah, I don't think so.

With a similar situation, my boss had inserted a sheet of paper in the
company personal-folders of my name saying: If he don't follow my
idea, i will fire him !!!

So when you said "Nah, I don't think so." you just have a risk to get
fired for a stupid conflict.

 

[Neredbojias]

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Neredbojias

True, a few women don't get it,
but that's when you go to Rent-A-Rat.

Sorry, that won't work with me:
[http://my.opera.com/arbpen/blog/2009/01/10/rolo-the-mouse-catcher]

<g>

Well, I guess everyone is entitled to at least one "mouse-take"...

 

[Neredbojias]

With a similar situation, my boss had inserted a sheet of paper in
the company personal-folders of my name saying: If he don't follow my
idea, i will fire him !!!

So when you said "Nah, I don't think so." you just have a risk to get
fired for a stupid conflict.

This is true: The last place I worked any length of time prior to my
current situation, I butted heads with ALL my associative bosses. And
guess what? They (-the really big hama-hama clique) fired them and
kept me!! 'Course when the new dept-head type took over for one of
them fired bosses and I didn't go to his parties or take his advice,
etc., he finally ousted me, too. What made it a shame was I couldn't
kick his ass because he had been (recently) a professional major-league
athlete and he would've killed me. Despite that minor setback, I
enjoyed the satisfaction of knowing the hama-bosses at least realized
who was right in a nitty-gritty way and their only mistake was in
appointing this asshole to head my section. (They hadda do something
with him, I guess...)