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Sylvia
What's the best way to build my own Websites? I've never made one before
so it needs to be easy.
Thank you,
so it needs to be easy.
Thank you,
Y
Yomamma Bin Crawdaddin
You can contact Matthew Moulton.
He has some MaJik WebSiTe B34Nz for Sale...
It's easy to do...
You place the majik Website beans in your CD drive
and water them.
Reboot your computer and it grows you a website in no time flat....
Just Ping Matthew Moulton.....
He'll be glad to help you.
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[ Doc ]
First you look at Hatter's sites. Then you avoid his gay little dreamweaver
templates and code by hand.
You're welcome.
A
Adrienne
1. Get yourself a text editor and some tutorials. You can start with
<http://www.w3schools.com/>, but ...
2. Remember to separate content from presentation. Use CSS for
presentation.
3. Remember to use tables for tabular data, calendars and such. Tables
are not for dividing your page up into sections.
4. Remember to use lists for lists, navigation lists, et all.
5. Remember that there is probably an element in the HTML spec
that is specifically for what you want, so don't try to reinvent the
wheel with bloated markup.
Most important of all:
Don't try to use Frontpage or Word to generate web pages for you. HTML
is not that difficult.
Here's the spec:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/
Here's a simplified version:
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/html/
Here's the CSS spec:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1/ (level 1)
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/ (level 2)
and http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/
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Fly Cooter
You mean TestiClees a.k.a. Mad Hatter?
Ha ha ha ha hee hee ho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I assume the poster wants the site to look halfway decent, so that cuts
TestiClees out as a tutor.
No wonder his site sucks nuts.
Just Ping Matthew Moulton.....
He'll be glad to help you.
I don't know about that. He's an arrogant son of a bitch, and for no reason
at all. His sites suck, but he boasts about being in the top 10% of all web
designers in the world. He looks like a poster child for Queer Eye For The
Straight Guy, and he probably doesn't get any pussy at all.
C
Chadwick Stone©
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Fly Cooter
I was talking about you, TestiClees.
This is a great example of a direction to stay clear of.
B
bookburn
| What's the best way to build my own Websites? I've never made one
before
| so it needs to be easy.
|
| Thank you,
I picked up a copy of Corel Wordperfect 8 suite years ago for cheap at
a second-hand store. It has all these programs in the suite beside
the word processor, including one that is just for composing your own
website in a step by step manner.
I have never used it but mention it because it's an example of
programs you can get for web site building. Also, did you know there
are sites on the Internet that you can join for free or low fee and
have your web site and e-mail accounts maintained there up to a
certain level of memory? I use one of these to store pictures of
items for sale at auctions, etc.. bookburn
before
| so it needs to be easy.
|
| Thank you,
I picked up a copy of Corel Wordperfect 8 suite years ago for cheap at
a second-hand store. It has all these programs in the suite beside
the word processor, including one that is just for composing your own
website in a step by step manner.
I have never used it but mention it because it's an example of
programs you can get for web site building. Also, did you know there
are sites on the Internet that you can join for free or low fee and
have your web site and e-mail accounts maintained there up to a
certain level of memory? I use one of these to store pictures of
items for sale at auctions, etc.. bookburn
F
Fly Cooter
Do you want the best way or the easiest way? You can't have both. Since
you've never made one before you should start with a simple approach and
work your way up in complexity.
The fastest way to get a site up is to use a free host that offers a
site-builder tool. The three most popular are http:/www.tripod.com
http:/www.geocities.com and http:/www.angelfire.com
Another way is to use web design software. A great program for beginners
is TrellixWeb. They have a free version and a pay version, and both are
very easy to use and come with plenty of templates.
B
Barbara de Zoete
The very first thing you need to do is answer the question to yourself: Why are
you going to have a website? What are people going to get from you, they can't
already get somewhere else? Or how are you going to offer what is already there
in a better way?
Try to define the purpose of the site, and try to envision your audience and
their needs.
Then start creating the content. Written text, images other than decoration, a
small movie or animation, some music perhaps. Create the content, and organize
it. As you create and organize, the individual pages will emerge and the site's
structure will get clear, like chapters in a book.
Meanwhile, learn the basics about markup and styling. They are two different
things. Markup is there for structuring and identifying if you like, the content
you want to serve to your audience. At first it can seem difficult, but really,
using proper markup isn't half as hard as you might think. If you know what a
heading is, and what a paragraph is or a list or image, you're half way there.
All you have to do, is apply that knowledge to your content. With knowledge on
only a dozen or so elements, you can create good pages. Well formed, with a
logical and semantical use of elements.
Styling is best done with cascading stylesheets. This is less easy. But hey, no
pain, no gain. There is no such thing as 'easy' in life or on the net ;-) .
With cascading stylesheets, or css, you provide the layout for your pages and
the looks of the elements in them. This will take some time to learn. You can do
so much with css, that it is hard sometimes to even know where to start. It's
best to start with the elements you used in your pages. Style the different
headings as you like. Style the paragraphs. Experiment with colours and sizes
and borders on what is there. You'll soon experience the power of css,
especially on well structured and formed pages.
For both learning markup and learning css there are some good tutorials about on
the net or in print. See Adriennes post to give you a good start. You can also
Google of course for almost every question you have. The volume of information
on building sites on the web is vast.
Once you've got the basics of those techniques, markup and styling, you could go
further by learning some client side techniques, like javascript or flash et
cetera, for which your audience needs to have scripting active or a plug-in
intalled and running. But usually neither are necessary to have a good and
functional site. They could be nice to spice up your pages a bit though.
If this approach, creating websites as were it a craft, is not what you like,
you could also buy yourself some software, like FrontPage or Dreamweaver. The
problem with using this kind of software is, that you _do_ also need to have
knowledge on what goes on 'underneeth the hood', so you are able to correct the
sometimes really bad markup these programs create for you. Just remember that
there is no such thing as WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get). One example:
what you see on your screen in your browser is quite different from what a blind
person gets communicated to him or her by a braille or aural browser or
screenreader.
Anyway, start with what is going to make your site important to visitors: the
content. Make sure your visitors can find you and access your site and use what
you offer them, so use proper and meaningful markup and don't rely on client
side techinques or plug-ins. It is always nice to have a visually attractive
page, so style you pages with some css. That's all there is to it. Sounds
simple enough.
But don't be disapointed to experience some problems at first and to find out it
might take you up to a year or more to get some real understanding of building a
good website. It's a true craft. People study for it at college or university.
It's not easy at all to do a really good job. But you _can_ do it, if you want
to. It's very satisfying and a lot of fun too.
Good luck and enjoy.
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Hans van Eynsbergen
Ping Matthew Moulton aka Mattie aka Diaper Boi aka another gazillion
names...
He has da skillzz....or at least that's what he claims....
The results he produced so far are total crap though....
And to answer your question : you might wanna Google first before asking
such broad question.
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Hans van Eynsbergen
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:40:05 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter, after pondering
Leave the girl alone, she does not need to be corrupted by your so
called skills....
Leave the girl alone, she does not need to be corrupted by your so
called skills....
L
Leonard Blaisdell
How about:
<html>
<head><title>My first attempt</title></head>
<body>
<p>Hello World!</p>
</body>
</html>
No DOCTYPE, no style, no nothing. And I bet it will run in damned near
any browser and on any server. It only has to be uploaded to a server
and "Hello World!" will be seen at the proper URL. That's pretty
daunting when you don't know how to upload or what exactly a URL is.
Once that's figured out, the HTML and CSS world opens up depending on
your desire.
At least, that's the way it worked for me.
First get "Hello World!" up. Call your ISP if it doesn't work to figure
out why. You'll need a program to transfer from your computer to the
server and a place to put it on the server. You'll have to learn a
program to do that. I started with telnet and ftp. Neither are secure
but both are still available along with sftp and ssh.
HTML-CSS do not comprise a language, but there are steps that must be
followed correctly before you get any satisfaction just like there are
for any true language.
Anyway, step one is to mark up a page.
Step two is to upload it.
Step three is to find it in a browser.
Step (4 ... n) is to perfect your craft.
leo
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PerfectReign
someone posing as Sylvia figured someone gave a rat's ass and spewed out:
Well, since I see you xposted to alt.fan.art-bell, I can tell you how:
1. Go way out into the desert one dark moonless night. (You'll have to wait
about two weeks, I saw the full moon out last night while scanning the skys
for Unidentifiable Government Conspiracy Objects.)
2. Get a rosary. Say Mary Hail! twenty times
3. Now get an Ankh. Recite the Egyptian prayer for the dead: htp-dt-nsw-isir
ddw ntr db ibdw dief prthrw thnkt spd es mnht ht nb nfrt webt nht ntr im n
ki n nmeh ky
Soon aliens will visit you. They will take you into their spaceship and
impart all knowledge of web making on you. You will come back a l33t
webmaster.
If you think this is a joke, trust me. This is how one of our regulars, a
guy who goes by Onideus Mad Hatter, did it. You can ask him (her?)
questions.
Good luck!
Well, since I see you xposted to alt.fan.art-bell, I can tell you how:
1. Go way out into the desert one dark moonless night. (You'll have to wait
about two weeks, I saw the full moon out last night while scanning the skys
for Unidentifiable Government Conspiracy Objects.)
2. Get a rosary. Say Mary Hail! twenty times
3. Now get an Ankh. Recite the Egyptian prayer for the dead: htp-dt-nsw-isir
ddw ntr db ibdw dief prthrw thnkt spd es mnht ht nb nfrt webt nht ntr im n
ki n nmeh ky
Soon aliens will visit you. They will take you into their spaceship and
impart all knowledge of web making on you. You will come back a l33t
webmaster.
If you think this is a joke, trust me. This is how one of our regulars, a
guy who goes by Onideus Mad Hatter, did it. You can ask him (her?)
questions.
Good luck!
S
smallfoot
Dreamweaver? You mean Front Page. He just strips out the comments and
gibberish that FP throws in there, so people can't tell that's what he
uses.
S
smallfoot
Why, is that what you use?
M
Mr Bean
Chadwick said:
Don't be stupid.
You CAN do some simple page in Front Page without any knowledge.
If is personal page, than above is good enough.
If is a commercial, hire some one who knows who knows that stuff well
and pay him. More money you'll make, more $'s spend on damn good page.
Cheers...
J
JDS
I like this. Creating a website in four easy steps!
S
spooky.action
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HTML+tutorials&btnG=Google+Search
Start reading some HTML tutorials...
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Darkwing \(Double Secret Disinformation Agent\)
Sylvia said:
It's not easy so don't bother. Unless, of course, you want to make an
amateur website that looks like shit, those ARE easy to make.