Jukka said:
No. For reasons, see
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/validation.html
(Regarding "Valid CSS", the phrase itself is a misnomer, so there's even
more confusion.)
I would prefer to see these buttons (and none others) if the page is
validated and compliant. When placed, done correctly, it's a clear and
clean promotion to comply with standards.
FYI, I read somewhere (still trying now to find that page) that I-Cab
used to report errors and problems with a page. I think this is a
marvelous idea; it would get the users much more involved in the web
standards compliance on-the-web issue. Validation report could be done
on the browser itself; that would tremendously help compliance on the
web... as no one would like to see his own pages being considered as
full of errors, invalid by visitors. There are signs that this trend is
advancing.
Opera 7, via a context-menu, allows users to validate a page. Netscape 7
Composer allows users to validate their pages on the W3C validator.
Mozilla's Checky (add-on) allows users/authors to validate a page in all
kinds of dimensions with access to 50 different validators. There is
even an MSIE version being developed. These are more convenient than
bookmarklets.
It means that the author has learned that such icons are cool. Hardly much
else.
You can not read the people's minds. You have a negative pre-conceived
idea of these people and of their intent and good-will.
You could have said that such people are in the process of learning HTML
and trying to create the best webpages they can. I've been coding HTML
for the last 5 years and I'm still learning today through my imperfect
skills and knowledge. What's wrong with that?? What's wrong with such
attitude???
In the real world, those icons often appear on pages that have
invalid markup and incorrect CSS.
Invalid markup happens to anyone, even to you and to your own website. I
once passed a few of your pages at the validator and found out several
surprises myself. So what should I have thought of your "authoring for
the web" webpages?
These buttons should be considered for what they can output; these
buttons should be considered as an easy way to verify a document's
markup syntax and adequate CSS code. (1) I think they certainly could be
entirely replaced by browsers functionalities, browsers reports on the
compliance of pages visited... just like I-Cab was (is still?) doing.
Doing so would eliminate the calculated "lies", deceptive certifications
and ignorance condemnation you do.
Usually it's not a deliberate lie - the
author once checked some version. (Sometimes it's really a lie; the author
might think that a few errors don't count.) But it's worse than useless
even if it's true.
There is so much deception, illusions, scams, viruses, worms, spams,
etc.. and lies on the web that "lying" about validation should not be
treated as harschly as you do here. Lie per definition is making an
incorrect, false statement that the author knows to be incorrect, false:
it's a deliberate action, a calculated one.
Of all the pages I visited with such buttons, I would say that a large
majority of these pages had no errors and no warnings: that's my experience.
Surely some people do.
Only if they understand what they are doing. Most don't.
A typical assessment of these people intents and actions and an
unsubstantiated one coming from you.
(1) On this precise issue, I changed the title attribute of these
buttons to reflect this. The buttons are best serving the purpose of
promoting web standards when they become a link to the W3C validator to
validate the [referrer] document rather than "certificate" of
compliance. On this point, we should agree.
DU
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