IDE reviews (IntelliJ, Eclipse, JBuilder)

Discussion in 'Java' started by Gena, Jul 29, 2003.

  1. Gena

    Gena Guest

    Hello,

    Does anyone know of a site that gives reviews on these IDEs (IntelliJ,
    Eclipse, and JBuilder) or can give personal experience as which is a
    better IDE? The IDE needs to be able to go across multiplatform
    (win2000, Linux, and Solaris). It also needs to be able to
    import/export to CVS. Source control? Use Ant? Memory hog? Does it
    hide too much of its processes?

    Thanks!!

    Gena
     
    Gena, Jul 29, 2003
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  2. Gena

    Christian Guest

    Go with JBuilder(Borland) or NetBeans or Forte(Sun)

    Cristian

    On 29 Jul 2003 08:57:54 -0700, (Gena) wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    >Does anyone know of a site that gives reviews on these IDEs (IntelliJ,
    >Eclipse, and JBuilder) or can give personal experience as which is a
    >better IDE? The IDE needs to be able to go across multiplatform
    >(win2000, Linux, and Solaris). It also needs to be able to
    >import/export to CVS. Source control? Use Ant? Memory hog? Does it
    >hide too much of its processes?
    >
    >Thanks!!
    >
    >Gena
     
    Christian, Jul 29, 2003
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  3. I have used them all to a great extent and find IntelliJ far superior to
    the others (this is my personal experience and opinion). Eclipse would be
    my second choice and JBuilder my last.

    The reason I find IntelliJ so nice is that everything is very natural and
    intuitive in how you use the IDE, it all "fits" and even though there is
    so much functionality, unlike JBuilder, that functionality does not feel
    like its another plugin .. meaning it is very context relavent. The
    editor is clean and efficient, the workspace is very dynamic and easy to
    configure. Best of all it just keeps out of your face and lets you get
    work done.

    Eclipse is an IDE I have been watching the last while and I'm becoming
    quite impressed with it. Although it is less intuitive and feels a bit
    more cludgy, theres a lot of promise here and if you don't have the
    license $ for IntelliJ this is your best bet.

    JBuilder used to be a premier IDE, it is now more of an expensive hack. I
    actually published an article comparing it to Forte in the 3.x days, gave
    it a favourable review, however I would not do so any longer. For what
    you get, the product is so overpriced it is ridiculous.

    Just IMO, you'll get plenty, best bet is to work with each for a week (if
    you have that time available) and make a choice yourself.

    Chris

    Gena wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > Does anyone know of a site that gives reviews on these IDEs (IntelliJ,
    > Eclipse, and JBuilder) or can give personal experience as which is a
    > better IDE? The IDE needs to be able to go across multiplatform
    > (win2000, Linux, and Solaris). It also needs to be able to
    > import/export to CVS. Source control? Use Ant? Memory hog? Does it
    > hide too much of its processes?
    >
    > Thanks!!
    >
    > Gena
     
    Chris Lambert, Jul 29, 2003
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  4. Gena

    tk Guest

    > Reviewers tend to like a zillion bells and whistles. For someone just
    > getting started, they are confusing. Some people like a lean mean
    > implementation with a few well chosen, well-implemented features
    > rather that a kitchen sink.


    In that case, nothing beats notepad.exe
     
    tk, Jul 30, 2003
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  5. Gena

    Drew Volpe Guest

    Last time we met, Chris Lambert <> had said:
    > I have used them all to a great extent and find IntelliJ far superior to
    > the others (this is my personal experience and opinion). Eclipse would be
    > my second choice and JBuilder my last.
    >
    > The reason I find IntelliJ so nice is that everything is very natural and
    > intuitive in how you use the IDE, it all "fits" and even though there is
    > so much functionality, unlike JBuilder, that functionality does not feel
    > like its another plugin .. meaning it is very context relavent. The
    > editor is clean and efficient, the workspace is very dynamic and easy to
    > configure. Best of all it just keeps out of your face and lets you get
    > work done.


    I second this. IDEA's interface is wonderful and that's really the
    most important element of an IDE. Those little, simple UI things
    add up when you're working in it all day.



    dv

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    Drew Volpe, mylastname at hcs o harvard o edu
     
    Drew Volpe, Jul 30, 2003
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  6. Gena

    Jon A. Cruz Guest

    Dale King wrote:
    >
    > How old of a machine are you talking about? I used Eclipse happily on a
    > 266Mhz P2 laptop until the laptop died a month ago. The only bad part was
    > a long start-up time.


    It's fairly sluggish on my PIII 500 with 384MB RAM.

    If I have the cursor at the middle or end of a line and then start to go
    up and down, I really start to feel it.

    On an 867 G4 with 512MB RAM it's quite nice.
     
    Jon A. Cruz, Aug 4, 2003
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