IE disaster

Discussion in 'HTML' started by WindAndWaves, Oct 14, 2004.

  1. WindAndWaves

    WindAndWaves Guest

    Hi Everyone

    I have a linked image e.g. <A href=.. CLASS=IL><IMG... CLASS=IL></A>

    Now, in my css, I use ........ A:LINK {border-bottom: solid 1px red}

    I have a special class for A and for IMG, IL,

    A.IL:LINK {border-bottom: 0px;}
    IMG.IL {border: solid 20px white;}

    With Opera and with Mozilla, the image does not have a border, but with IE
    the image shows a border.

    Does anyone know a way to fix this?

    Thank you in advance

    - Nicolaas
     
    WindAndWaves, Oct 14, 2004
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  2. WindAndWaves

    brucie Guest

    In alt.html WindAndWaves said:

    > Hi Everyone


    g'day

    > I have a linked image


    how about a URL?

    after using:
    http://validator.w3.org/
    http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

    > With Opera and with Mozilla, the image does not have a border,
    > but with IE the image shows a border.


    what is the behavior you're expecting?

    > Does anyone know a way to fix this?


    sorry, rf is a bad influence on me and talked me into grinding up my
    crystal ball and snorting it.

    --


    v o i c e s
     
    brucie, Oct 14, 2004
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  3. WindAndWaves

    Neal Guest

    On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:05:25 +1000, brucie <> wrote:

    > sorry, rf is a bad influence on me and talked me into grinding up my
    > crystal ball and snorting it.


    That was supposed to be a crystal meth ball, brucie... now you're just
    high on glass.
     
    Neal, Oct 14, 2004
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  4. WindAndWaves

    rf Guest

    Neal wrote:
    > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:05:25 +1000, brucie <> wrote:
    >
    > > sorry, rf is a bad influence on me and talked me into grinding up my
    > > crystal ball and snorting it.

    >
    > That was supposed to be a crystal meth ball, brucie... now you're just
    > high on glass.


    Probably passes silicon chips when he visits the little boys room :)

    --
    Cheers
    Richard.
     
    rf, Oct 15, 2004
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  5. WindAndWaves

    Deryck Guest

    "WindAndWaves" <> wrote in message
    news:bcpbd.501$...
    > Hi Everyone
    >
    > I have a linked image e.g. <A href=.. CLASS=IL><IMG... CLASS=IL></A>
    >
    > Now, in my css, I use ........ A:LINK {border-bottom: solid 1px red}
    >
    > I have a special class for A and for IMG, IL,
    >
    > A.IL:LINK {border-bottom: 0px;}
    > IMG.IL {border: solid 20px white;}
    >
    > With Opera and with Mozilla, the image does not have a border, but with IE
    > the image shows a border.
    >


    Thats your idea of a disaster? What happens when your car gets a flat tyre
    or you get sick? They must be real catastrophes!

    Deryck
     
    Deryck, Oct 15, 2004
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  6. WindAndWaves

    brucie Guest

    brucie, Oct 19, 2004
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  7. WindAndWaves

    WindAndWaves Guest

    "brucie" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In alt.html WindAndWaves said:
    >
    > > http://www.corstorphinehouse.com/IL.html

    >
    > i stopped wasting my time, money and bandwidth allocation at 150k
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    > v o i c e s



    As this is an image library that is just the way it is, I am sorry Bruce, my
    apologies. I, myself, am stuck on an island in the south pacific so I know
    the bandwith feeling.

    Cherio

    Nicolaas
     
    WindAndWaves, Oct 19, 2004
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  8. WindAndWaves

    WindAndWaves Guest

    "brucie" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In alt.html WindAndWaves said:
    >
    > > http://www.corstorphinehouse.com/IL.html

    >
    > i stopped wasting my time, money and bandwidth allocation at 150k


    Would you like me to make a copy of the page available without images?
     
    WindAndWaves, Oct 19, 2004
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    Karl Core Guest

    "WindAndWaves" <> wrote in message
    news:t%Ycd.92$...
    > "brucie" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> In alt.html WindAndWaves said:
    >>
    >> > http://www.corstorphinehouse.com/IL.html

    >>
    >> i stopped wasting my time, money and bandwidth allocation at 150k
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >>
    >> v o i c e s

    >
    >
    > As this is an image library that is just the way it is, I am sorry Bruce,
    > my
    > apologies. I, myself, am stuck on an island in the south pacific so I
    > know
    > the bandwith feeling.


    Here's a crazy idea - limit the # of thumbnails displayed!
    Nah, too easy. We need to come up with something more complicated to fix
    this...

    -Karl
     
    Karl Core, Oct 19, 2004
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  10. WindAndWaves

    WindAndWaves Guest


    > Here's a crazy idea - limit the # of thumbnails displayed!
    > Nah, too easy. We need to come up with something more complicated to fix
    > this...
    >
    > -Karl
    >
    >

    Dear Karl

    Thank you for your comment.

    The image library is only for people who want to use pics in brochures and
    so, having 70 thumbnails on one page allows them to make a decision quickly.
    For most of them bandwith will not be that important. This keeps it nice and
    simple at the cost of a bit of bandwith that people would use anyway, if
    they had to browse through several pags...

    Let me know if I am wrong

    - Nicolaas
     
    WindAndWaves, Oct 19, 2004
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  11. WindAndWaves

    Karl Core Guest

    "WindAndWaves" <> wrote in message
    news:nZZcd.127$...
    >
    >> Here's a crazy idea - limit the # of thumbnails displayed!
    >> Nah, too easy. We need to come up with something more complicated to fix
    >> this...
    >>
    >> -Karl
    >>
    >>

    > Dear Karl
    >
    > Thank you for your comment.
    >
    > The image library is only for people who want to use pics in brochures and
    > so, having 70 thumbnails on one page allows them to make a decision
    > quickly.
    > For most of them bandwith will not be that important. This keeps it nice
    > and
    > simple at the cost of a bit of bandwith that people would use anyway, if
    > they had to browse through several pags...
    >
    > Let me know if I am wrong


    Have you done ACTUAL user testing with persons who are representative of
    your user base?
    If not, how do you know anything about whether the solution you've provided
    is helpful for them?
    How do you know that having 70 thumbnails is the ideal number? How do you
    know that the thumbnails are the correct size?
    How do you know that they're all on fast enough connections that the amount
    of data they're forced to download is not an issue?
    How do you know that they don't require additional images in order to make a
    decision on which images to pick?
    How do you know that the thumbnail images are large enough for them to make
    a decision just by seeing the thumbnail?

    It appears to me as if you've made these decisions based solely on
    assumption alone. Commonly known as the "I made these decisions because
    that what I want" approach rather than the preferred "I made these decisions
    based on user feedback" approach.

    -Karl
     
    Karl Core, Oct 19, 2004
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  12. WindAndWaves

    WindAndWaves Guest

    "Karl Core" <> wrote in message
    news:cl1u1m$4s6$...
    >
    > "WindAndWaves" <> wrote in message
    > news:nZZcd.127$...
    > >
    > >> Here's a crazy idea - limit the # of thumbnails displayed!
    > >> Nah, too easy. We need to come up with something more complicated to

    fix
    > >> this...
    > >>
    > >> -Karl
    > >>
    > >>

    > > Dear Karl
    > >
    > > Thank you for your comment.
    > >
    > > The image library is only for people who want to use pics in brochures

    and
    > > so, having 70 thumbnails on one page allows them to make a decision
    > > quickly.
    > > For most of them bandwith will not be that important. This keeps it nice
    > > and
    > > simple at the cost of a bit of bandwith that people would use anyway, if
    > > they had to browse through several pags...
    > >
    > > Let me know if I am wrong

    >
    > Have you done ACTUAL user testing with persons who are representative of
    > your user base?
    > If not, how do you know anything about whether the solution you've

    provided
    > is helpful for them?
    > How do you know that having 70 thumbnails is the ideal number? How do you
    > know that the thumbnails are the correct size?
    > How do you know that they're all on fast enough connections that the

    amount
    > of data they're forced to download is not an issue?
    > How do you know that they don't require additional images in order to make

    a
    > decision on which images to pick?
    > How do you know that the thumbnail images are large enough for them to

    make
    > a decision just by seeing the thumbnail?
    >
    > It appears to me as if you've made these decisions based solely on
    > assumption alone. Commonly known as the "I made these decisions because
    > that what I want" approach rather than the preferred "I made these

    decisions
    > based on user feedback" approach.
    >
    > -Karl
    >
    >


    I used a combo of
    a. commonsense
    b. customer interaction (i know the people who use this)
    c. practicality

    I definitely agree with your questions though, they are good questions.

    Most business only provide images on a CD, but we offer them from our
    website, which is much faster and cheaper than, for example, sending a CD to
    the other side of the world.

    If you have any other constructive comments on the site then I would love to
    hear from you, because I really want it to be a good website.
     
    WindAndWaves, Oct 19, 2004
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  13. WindAndWaves

    WindAndWaves Guest

    "Karl Core" <> wrote in message
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    ... snip ... snip


    > It appears to me as if you've made these decisions based solely on
    > assumption alone. Commonly known as the "I made these decisions because
    > that what I want" approach rather than the preferred "I made these

    decisions
    > based on user feedback" approach.
    >
    > -Karl
    >


    I usually work with the rule that the entire site should be no more than
    50k. What do you think?
     
    WindAndWaves, Oct 19, 2004
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