John said:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
Jim said:
[...] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn [...] wrote:
Jim Ley wrote:
How much support for DOM 3 will be in IE 7? It's struggling to
implement DOM 2 fully.
DOM 3 is about XML, IE7 is an HTML user agent.
Well, AFAIK IE 7 Final has not been released yet. Are you saying
that IE 7 Beta 2 still does not support application/xhtml+xml and
XML document types like XHTML?
The IE7 team are on record saying that application/xhtml+xml will
not be a supported type of IE7. D'oh.
This is a good thing.
Pardon?
JFTR: I think it is definitely a Bad Thing, for it keeps XHTML a corner
language instead of helping it to become a cornerstone language of Web
authoring. The contradiction and -- I must say -- hypocrisy expressed
by Microsoft in this matter becomes obvious when you look at the
wannabe-X(HT)ML code they produce (e.g. in the MSDN Library) and
serve that as text/html to IE's tag soup parser.
You really think XHTML will become mainstream? I hope not.
Yes, I hope so. But only if there is proper support in all widely
distributed user agents. So far that is not the case, and it is a
pity that it appears to stay so, 6 years after the first XHTML
specification to which also several Microsoft people contributed to.
Can you name the advantages XHTML has over HTML and the disadvantages?
Yes, I can. And once XHTML as application/xhtml+xml, parsed by an XML
parser, gets broad support by user agents, there are no disadvantages of
it left when compared to HTML. However, I have named both before (here),
and /this/ discussion is not on-topic and I will not continue it here.
Most people currently using XHTML can't, I am afraid, list neither.
That is _their_ problem.
I am afraid that most just use XHTML because it's newer compared to
HTML 4.01
True, however that is not a valid argument against XHTML as a hopefully
_future_ "mainstream" markup language. And I was talking about a possible,
and for me desirable, future only.
PointedEars