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News

I have been on some sites where there were images on it but for the life of
me I could not copy the image. I have tried to figure out how this is
accomplished but have no idea. At first I thought the entire site was a
image but that is not correct.

Could anyone tell me were I could go to learn what those web designers are
doing? Or could you please tell me what they are doing or using.

Thanks
 
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Els

News said:
I have been on some sites where there were images on it but for the life of
me I could not copy the image. I have tried to figure out how this is
accomplished but have no idea. At first I thought the entire site was a
image but that is not correct.

Could anyone tell me were I could go to learn what those web designers are
doing? Or could you please tell me what they are doing or using.

If you can show us such a page, we can show you how you copy the
image. There is no way to protect images on the web.
 
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Harlan Messinger

Els said:
If you can show us such a page, we can show you how you copy the
image. There is no way to protect images on the web.

It's probably a background image. You can find its location through the
HTML source code ("View Source"), unless it's stuck away in a
stylesheet, in which case you have to download the stylesheet first.
 
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ozzy.kopec

News said:
I have been on some sites where there were images on it but for the life of
me I could not copy the image. I have tried to figure out how this is
accomplished but have no idea. At first I thought the entire site was a
image but that is not correct.

Could anyone tell me were I could go to learn what those web designers are
doing? Or could you please tell me what they are doing or using.

Thanks
Provide a link to one or more of the sites and someone will let yah
know what is what. Could be some simple javascript (which really
can't stop anyone from getting the image).
 
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Els

Harlan said:
It's probably a background image. You can find its location through the
HTML source code ("View Source"), unless it's stuck away in a
stylesheet, in which case you have to download the stylesheet first.

If it's a background image, just load the page in Firefox, right click
the image and select 'view background-image'.
That is, if there isn't another (transparent) image overlay of course.
 
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Chris F.A. Johnson

I have been on some sites where there were images on it but for the life of
me I could not copy the image. I have tried to figure out how this is
accomplished but have no idea. At first I thought the entire site was a
image but that is not correct.

Could anyone tell me were I could go to learn what those web designers are
doing? Or could you please tell me what they are doing or using.

Look at the HTML code and the stylesheet.

If you cannot figure it out, post a URL here.

One example I saw recently uses a non-portable method:
<http://www.printroom.com/popupImage.asp?img_id=42876839&effectRGB=>
(I haven't figured out exactly how it was done, but it didn't
matter) The extracted image (using ImageMagick's display to grab a
section of the screen) is at:
<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/web/examples/brewers.jpg>.
 
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Nije Nego

I have been on some sites where there were images on it but for the life of
me I could not copy the image.

If you want to get the images, you should install proper browser (maybe you
have already), like Firefox ( http://urlkick.com/338 ) and than right
click - view page info - media. You will have everything there.
Could anyone tell me were I could go to learn what those web designers are
doing?

If you want to protect your images - forget about it, it's impossible, you
just may hide it from few who do not know how to get it. It's not worth the
effort.
 
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Els

Chris said:
Look at the HTML code and the stylesheet.

If you cannot figure it out, post a URL here.

One example I saw recently uses a non-portable method:
<http://www.printroom.com/popupImage.asp?img_id=42876839&effectRGB=>
(I haven't figured out exactly how it was done, but it didn't
matter)

It's stuck in a .dll. There are programs to extract (and compile) .dll
files.
The extracted image (using ImageMagick's display to grab a
section of the screen) is at:
<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/web/examples/brewers.jpg>.

Yup, works too.
 
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Runnin' on Empty

Nije Nego said:
If you want to get the images, you should install proper browser (maybe
you
have already), like Firefox ( http://urlkick.com/338 ) and than right
click - view page info - media. You will have everything there.


If you want to protect your images - forget about it, it's impossible, you
just may hide it from few who do not know how to get it. It's not worth
the
effort.

I agree, it's not worth the effort, unless you only want to protect the
image from the uninformed...

For One thing, in order for any web page element to be displayed in the
browser, it first has to downloaded to the visitors hard drive.

For IE, these images are stored in the Temporary Internet Files folder, and
could be found through a search.
 
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Stuart Miller

I agree, it's not worth the effort, unless you only want to protect the
image from the uninformed...

For One thing, in order for any web page element to be displayed in the
browser, it first has to downloaded to the visitors hard drive.

For IE, these images are stored in the Temporary Internet Files folder,
and could be found through a search.

rigth - but it is easier of you empty this folder before you view the page.

I think the original topic was the way that web page tried to protect
images - and I agree it is not worth the trouble.
On one site, where I wanted a copy of a friend's baby pictures, I started to
examine the page source and found a message something like
'What are you doing looking here? This is copyrighted material'
That just made me more determined to get the images. Saving them took me
about 2 minutes more.

I recall this topic was discussed at length here some time ago. From my
point of view, it is better to alter the image with copyright information or
reduce the size/quality to the point that the display image is not worth
copying.

Stuart
 
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Jonathan N. Little

Els said:
It's stuck in a .dll. There are programs to extract (and compile) .dll
files.

Nope is just is just named as a DLL. Rename to 'ViewImage.jpg' and your
done! The do float a transparent GIF over to fool the novice but the
bottom line it is not protected!
 
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Els

Jonathan said:
Nope is just is just named as a DLL. Rename to 'ViewImage.jpg' and your
done!

Didn't think of that one - they could have really stuck it in a .dll
though :)
The do float a transparent GIF over to fool the novice but the
bottom line it is not protected!

It never is :)
 
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Jonathan N. Little

Els said:
Didn't think of that one - they could have really stuck it in a .dll
though :)


It never is :)

Obfuscation is pretty effective (like my typing: "The[y] do float...")
It fools countless every day in email attachments to infect their
computers!
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

News said:
http://www.footprintsphotography.com/index2.php

There is a site that seems to thwart copying of the image. How was it done?

Looks to me as if all the photos are in a Flash movie. Didn't stop me
from copying them using SnagIt.

Considering it *is* a Flash site, it is one of the better ones I've seen
in a long time.

BTW, please don't top-post, and move your sig delimiter to the bottom of
the post. Thanks for your consideration.
 
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News

Beauregard said:
Looks to me as if all the photos are in a Flash movie. Didn't stop me
from copying them using SnagIt.

Considering it *is* a Flash site, it is one of the better ones I've
seen in a long time.

BTW, please don't top-post, and move your sig delimiter to the bottom
of the post. Thanks for your consideration.

You are correct about the top-post, sorry about that.

I tried printscreen and used that it works also.

Thanks
 
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dorayme

"News said:
http://www.footprintsphotography.com/index2.php

There is a site that seems to thwart copying of the image. How was it done?

Warren

Not true, I was able to get all the images quickly and easily. I
simply practiced my timing, (two goes, 6 secs) and screenshot'ed.
And I am talking getting just the image rectangle. On a Mac, you
press Command+Shift+4 and you get ready and speedily draw the
rect and snap!

[BTW, screen snapping is not something to be sneezed at as some
low rent way of capturing. I was surprised recently (but not
flabbergasted) by the way it picks up things that are not
necessarily evident to the eye on the screen it is snapped at. I
do design work for printing and use screenshots a lot to show
clients the artwork (they often have trouble viewing the actual
Illustrator files...). I picked up a fault in the art work via
the screenshot recently in a surprising manner:

Snapped the art layout, I have it in png format at the moment. I
dragged this png to Fireworks and exported it to a gif (it was
the most economical format for communication in this instance).
Low and behold, there was a ghastly rectangular ghost of a pale
background to one small element in the artwork. I thought I had
matched that background to that element (a placed pic prepared in
Photoshop) exactly to the general background but no! On
re-examining the Illustrator file at great magnification, the
fault became evident and may have printed as such!]
 
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Chris F.A. Johnson

Looks to me as if all the photos are in a Flash movie. Didn't stop me
from copying them using SnagIt.

Considering it *is* a Flash site, it is one of the better ones I've seen
in a long time.

Not bad looking, but the text is too small to read on my screen.
 
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News

dorayme said:
News said:
http://www.footprintsphotography.com/index2.php

There is a site that seems to thwart copying of the image. How was
it done?

Warren

Not true, I was able to get all the images quickly and easily. I
simply practiced my timing, (two goes, 6 secs) and screenshot'ed.
And I am talking getting just the image rectangle. On a Mac, you
press Command+Shift+4 and you get ready and speedily draw the
rect and snap!

[BTW, screen snapping is not something to be sneezed at as some
low rent way of capturing. I was surprised recently (but not
flabbergasted) by the way it picks up things that are not
necessarily evident to the eye on the screen it is snapped at. I
do design work for printing and use screenshots a lot to show
clients the artwork (they often have trouble viewing the actual
Illustrator files...). I picked up a fault in the art work via
the screenshot recently in a surprising manner:

Snapped the art layout, I have it in png format at the moment. I
dragged this png to Fireworks and exported it to a gif (it was
the most economical format for communication in this instance).
Low and behold, there was a ghastly rectangular ghost of a pale
background to one small element in the artwork. I thought I had
matched that background to that element (a placed pic prepared in
Photoshop) exactly to the general background but no! On
re-examining the Illustrator file at great magnification, the
fault became evident and may have printed as such!]

I was sitting here thinking of a way to capture the images that would be
easy and quick and the screen print button jumped out and hit me. I have not
used that button for a while but you are right it is fast and easy.

Have a great day
 

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