IronPython 0.7 released!

[Steve Holden]

[Thomas Gagne]

Does the Python community think Microsoft's embrace is a good or bad thing?

All things in this world unfold exactly according to Guido's secret
Master Plan. So it depends on whether you think Guido is good or bad.
Members of the Python community are required to think Guido is good.
Therefore all things that happen in this world are good.

I know, it takes a bit of practice to truly believe that <wink>.

not-mentioning-that-i-don't-feel-particularly-embraced-yet-ly y'rs - tim

Presumably when we get past the embracing and on to the extending Barry
can finally retrain Spambayes to reject penis enlargement emails?

regards
Steve

 

[Cameron Laird]

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Presumably when we get past the embracing and on to the extending Barry
can finally retrain Spambayes to reject penis enlargement emails?

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Hey! I'm indignant; why, if you jokers were earnest about
demonstrating Python's commercial applicability, you'd apply
Spambayes' algorithms to the dual, and presumably highly
remunerative, problems of designing spam that readers answer.
This community just isn't *serious* enough.

And now, for something completely different, I'll tender a
personal view: I think Mr. Gates and Python are actually
destined to get along uncharacteristically well. Roughly, I
suspect the habits and motivations of the two are so skew,
that the usual "embrace and extend" simply won't obtain. I
soberly expect IronPython to work out well for both Microsoft
and Python.

That changes nothing about my long-term feelings toward
Microsoft and Python.

 

[Thomas Gagne]

Cameron Laird wrote:

And now, for something completely different, I'll tender a
personal view: I think Mr. Gates and Python are actually
destined to get along uncharacteristically well. Roughly, I
suspect the habits and motivations of the two are so skew,
that the usual "embrace and extend" simply won't obtain. I
soberly expect IronPython to work out well for both Microsoft
and Python.

The techweb.com article said something interesting.

"Python is an open-source dynamic language; dynamic languages enable developers to produce applications more efficiently by reducing the amount of complexity in the code they write," Jason Matusow, program manager of Microsoft's Shared Source Initiative, writes on his blog. "Microsoft's IronPython project demonstrates the benefits of putting the Python dynamic language on the .NET Common Language Runtime."

Assuming (I don't know for certain) that MS's PR approves all messages
that leave the building, I'm wondering if this foray into dynamic
languages doesn't signal something greater on MS' part. While Sun and
Java (and C# for the most part) have remained statically-typed, do you
think IronPython might indicate a new direction for MS language development?

 

[Mike Rovner]

Assuming (I don't know for certain) that MS's PR approves all messages
that leave the building, I'm wondering if this foray into dynamic
languages doesn't signal something greater on MS' part. While Sun and
Java (and C# for the most part) have remained statically-typed, do you
think IronPython might indicate a new direction for MS language
development?

Sun abandoned dynamic approach (Tcl) in favor of Java.
MS using dynamic for a long long time (recall prolog in NT loader).
So it's new step with .NET and prove that Python (as well as VBscript)
will work well on it in is in best MS (read commercial) interests.

/m

 

[Bengt Richter]

Cameron Laird wrote:


The techweb.com article said something interesting.


Assuming (I don't know for certain) that MS's PR approves all messages
that leave the building, I'm wondering if this foray into dynamic
languages doesn't signal something greater on MS' part. While Sun and
Java (and C# for the most part) have remained statically-typed, do you
think IronPython might indicate a new direction for MS language development?

If there is to be an MSPython, how long 'til Mozilla FirePython? ;-)

Regards,
Bengt Richter

 

[Ola Natvig]

If there is to be an MSPython, how long 'til Mozilla FirePython? ;-)

Regards,
Bengt Richter

'Reclaim your runtime'

I can't wait...

 

[Simon Brunning]

Sun abandoned dynamic approach (Tcl) in favor of Java.

Sun appear to be very interested in dynamic languages these days:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/12/08/DynamicJava

 

[Scott David Daniels]

If there is to be an MSPython, how long 'til Mozilla FirePython? ;-)

Mexico has already designed the flag for that, I think.

--Scott David Daniels
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