Issues developing SE and EE on same machine netbeans

Discussion in 'Java' started by Ben Kaufman, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. Ben Kaufman

    Ben Kaufman Guest

    Hi,

    Are there any issues developing both SE and EE on the same machine in netbeans
    environment? (i.e. library/jar mixup)

    Thanks.

    Ben
     
    Ben Kaufman, Jan 25, 2009
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  2. Ben Kaufman

    Arne Vajhøj Guest

    Ben Kaufman wrote:
    > Are there any issues developing both SE and EE on the same machine in netbeans
    > environment? (i.e. library/jar mixup)


    You can (and always do) develop Java SE code when developing Java EE.
    So if you just install the Java EE edition of your IDE, then you should
    be all set.

    Whether you can have two different edition sof NetBeans running on the
    same system I do not know.

    I would guess so, because Eclipse can.

    Arne
     
    Arne Vajhøj, Jan 25, 2009
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    Lew Guest

    Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    > Ben Kaufman wrote:
    >> Are there any issues developing both SE and EE on the same machine in
    >> netbeans
    >> environment? (i.e. [sic] library/jar mixup)

    >
    > You can (and always do) develop Java SE code when developing Java EE.
    > So if you just install the Java EE edition of your IDE, then you should
    > be all set.
    >
    > Whether you can have two different edition sof NetBeans running on the
    > same system I do not know.
    >
    > I would guess so, because Eclipse can.


    You can run two different versions of NetBeans on the same computer at the
    same time, though why you'd want to I have no idea.

    The only difference between the SE-only version and the EE-inclusive version
    of NetBeans is the addition of modules to the latter,

    There is no danger of mixup between Java EE JARs and Java SE JARs. There is
    danger of mixing up different versions of the same JAR, for example,
    third-party libraries often include a particular version of log4j that may
    differ from your own preferred version. I resolve that by excluding such
    common JARs from the third-party libraries; instead I define my own library of
    common code like log4j.

    --
    Lew
     
    Lew, Jan 25, 2009
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  4. Lew wrote:
    > Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    >> Ben Kaufman wrote:
    >>> Are there any issues developing both SE and EE on the same machine in
    >>> netbeans
    >>> environment? (i.e. [sic] library/jar mixup)

    >>
    >> You can (and always do) develop Java SE code when developing Java EE.
    >> So if you just install the Java EE edition of your IDE, then you should
    >> be all set.
    >>
    >> Whether you can have two different edition sof NetBeans running on the
    >> same system I do not know.
    >>
    >> I would guess so, because Eclipse can.

    >
    > You can run two different versions of NetBeans on the same computer at
    > the same time, though why you'd want to I have no idea.
    >
    > The only difference between the SE-only version and the EE-inclusive
    > version of NetBeans is the addition of modules to the latter,


    Sometimes it is nice to have different environments for
    different purposes.

    I would not split between Java SE and Java EE, because it
    really is the same thing.

    I could split between Java stuff (SE and EE), C/C++ stuff and
    Python stuff because they are more distinct.

    Arne
     
    Arne Vajhøj, Jan 25, 2009
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  5. Ben Kaufman

    Ben Kaufman Guest

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:21:55 -0500, Arne Vajhøj <> wrote:

    >Ben Kaufman wrote:
    >> Are there any issues developing both SE and EE on the same machine in netbeans
    >> environment? (i.e. library/jar mixup)

    >
    >You can (and always do) develop Java SE code when developing Java EE.
    >So if you just install the Java EE edition of your IDE, then you should
    >be all set.
    >
    >Whether you can have two different edition sof NetBeans running on the
    >same system I do not know.
    >
    >I would guess so, because Eclipse can.
    >
    >Arne


    I did not realize that there were different netbean IDEs for SE and EE, i just
    thought that's how the downloads were bundled.

    Ben
     
    Ben Kaufman, Jan 27, 2009
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  6. Ben Kaufman

    Ben Kaufman Guest

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:09:10 -0500, Lew <> wrote:

    >Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    >> Ben Kaufman wrote:
    >>> Are there any issues developing both SE and EE on the same machine in
    >>> netbeans
    >>> environment? (i.e. [sic] library/jar mixup)

    >>
    >> You can (and always do) develop Java SE code when developing Java EE.
    >> So if you just install the Java EE edition of your IDE, then you should
    >> be all set.
    >>
    >> Whether you can have two different edition sof NetBeans running on the
    >> same system I do not know.
    >>
    >> I would guess so, because Eclipse can.

    >
    >You can run two different versions of NetBeans on the same computer at the
    >same time, though why you'd want to I have no idea.
    >
    >The only difference between the SE-only version and the EE-inclusive version
    >of NetBeans is the addition of modules to the latter,
    >
    >There is no danger of mixup between Java EE JARs and Java SE JARs. There is
    >danger of mixing up different versions of the same JAR, for example,
    >third-party libraries often include a particular version of log4j that may
    >differ from your own preferred version. I resolve that by excluding such
    >common JARs from the third-party libraries; instead I define my own library of
    >common code like log4j.


    OK, good to know I don't need two IDEs :)
    I have been developing with SE for a number of years and did not want to
    unnecessarily upset this environment as I include EE apps.

    Thanks.

    Ben
     
    Ben Kaufman, Jan 27, 2009
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  7. Ben Kaufman

    Lew Guest

    Ben Kaufman wrote:
    > I did not realize that there were different netbean IDEs for SE and EE, i [sic] just
    > thought that's how the downloads were bundled.


    That depends on your definition of "different". The only difference
    between the SE-only version and the EE-inclusive version of NetBeans
    is the addition of modules to the latter. They are the same IDE to
    the extent that the core modules are the same. So you were correct -
    it is a matter of how the downloads were bundled. Different bundles
    differ in the modules bundled with them.

    The extensibility of both NetBeans and Eclipse stem from the fact that
    they actually are rich-client platforms (RCPs) atop which the IDE
    functions are layered. You can add, remove, activate and deactivate
    just about everything in NetBeans via the "Tools Preferences" option.
    You can also use the RCPs to develop applications that aren't IDEs.
    An industrial-process control application atop the NetBeans RCP is, in
    some sense, the "same" NetBeans that you downloaded for Java
    development.

    --
    Lew
     
    Lew, Jan 27, 2009
    #7
  8. Ben Kaufman

    Lew Guest

    Lew wrote:
    > The extensibility of both NetBeans and Eclipse stem from the fact that
    > they actually are rich-client platforms (RCPs) atop which the IDE
    > functions are layered. You can add, remove, activate and deactivate
    > just about everything in NetBeans via the "Tools Preferences" option.


    Sorry, that's "Tools Plugins".

    --
    Lew
     
    Lew, Jan 27, 2009
    #8
  9. Ben Kaufman

    Arne Vajhøj Guest

    Ben Kaufman wrote:
    > On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:21:55 -0500, Arne Vajhøj <> wrote:
    >> Ben Kaufman wrote:
    >>> Are there any issues developing both SE and EE on the same machine in netbeans
    >>> environment? (i.e. library/jar mixup)

    >> You can (and always do) develop Java SE code when developing Java EE.
    >> So if you just install the Java EE edition of your IDE, then you should
    >> be all set.
    >>
    >> Whether you can have two different edition sof NetBeans running on the
    >> same system I do not know.
    >>
    >> I would guess so, because Eclipse can.

    >
    > I did not realize that there were different netbean IDEs for SE and EE, i just
    > thought that's how the downloads were bundled.


    It is.

    Same core IDE but with different modules/plugins.

    And "download bundles" is the term NetBeans use themselves. Editions
    was just my translation.

    Arne
     
    Arne Vajhøj, Jan 28, 2009
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