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Slim

I am electronics techician at the moment. I want to start learning how
to use java and become a code writter. Java is used for every software
that I work with. Java seems a bit overwhelming. Do anyone has helpful
tips or suggestions that will help me to start learning java on my own.
 
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Matt Atterbury

Slim said:
I am electronics techician at the moment. I want to start learning how
to use java and become a code writter. Java is used for every software
that I work with. Java seems a bit overwhelming. Do anyone has helpful
tips or suggestions that will help me to start learning java on my own.

"The Java Programming Language (3d Edition)" (ISBN 0-201-70433-1) is a
superb book for learning Java "properly". If you read that you will
know Java. It won't be easy though. It also won't teach you much about
the myriad libraries in the JRE. You should also see if there are later
editions (it doesn't cover Java 5 nor, AFAIK, 1.4).

m.
 
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Rhino

Slim said:
I am electronics techician at the moment. I want to start learning how
to use java and become a code writter. Java is used for every software
that I work with. Java seems a bit overwhelming. Do anyone has helpful
tips or suggestions that will help me to start learning java on my own.
This is at least the third time this question has been asked today alone. It
gets asked very frequently here and the answers don't change much over time.

Why don't you use Google Groups to find past posts that deal with this
question in as much depth as you like?
 
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Mark Space

Slim said:
I am electronics techician at the moment. I want to start learning how
to use java and become a code writter. Java is used for every software
that I work with. Java seems a bit overwhelming. Do anyone has helpful
tips or suggestions that will help me to start learning java on my own.

While rhino is correct about searching the archives with google, I'll
add that some sort of continuing education course would be a good idea.
Once you are working, it's hard to find the free time to learn new
things. Taking a class will make you set time aside, and you'll have a
large group to help you with learning.

Java is in my opinion quite easy, much more so than C++ or the Windows
API. If you are finding it overwhelming, I think it's time to take a
step back and work on your basic coding skills. Plan on 2-3 courses on
Java and basic coding, including algorithms and data structures, and at
least one more advanced course, perhaps TCP/IP with Java or compilers.
This'll give you a better foundation for the future. If you can, a full
undergraduate com sci program would be good.
 
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Lionel

Mark said:
While rhino is correct about searching the archives with google, I'll
add that some sort of continuing education course would be a good idea.
Once you are working, it's hard to find the free time to learn new
things. Taking a class will make you set time aside, and you'll have a
large group to help you with learning.

Java is in my opinion quite easy, much more so than C++ or the Windows
API. If you are finding it overwhelming, I think it's time to take a
step back and work on your basic coding skills. Plan on 2-3 courses on
Java and basic coding, including algorithms and data structures, and at
least one more advanced course, perhaps TCP/IP with Java or compilers.
This'll give you a better foundation for the future. If you can, a full
undergraduate com sci program would be good.

I generally agree with the above. You can't just "learn java" or "learn
c++". There is so much more to programming than that. It is entirely
possible to graduate with a degree in IT/comp science/software
engineering and still not be good a programming. I've witnessed this. I
could have fallen into the trap myself but I was lucky in that I like to
think about solutions and I was prompted just once or twice during my
final year, this was enough to give me the insight I needed to continue
learning on my own.

But I have and still am working on code written by a final year IT
student and it is absolutely awful. Sure, it does the job, but to extend
it and even worse, to understand it, is incredibly difficult. It's
important you learn about design. If using java, do a course on Object
Oriented design. For a look at some good books check out:

http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~csse2003/_textreferences.html

Braude, 2006 and Gamma et al are the two best starters.

Lionel.
 
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Oliver Wong

Slim said:
I am electronics techician at the moment. I want to start learning how
to use java and become a code writter. Java is used for every software
that I work with. Java seems a bit overwhelming. Do anyone has helpful
tips or suggestions that will help me to start learning java on my own.

http://riters.com/JINX/index.cgi/How_20do_20I_20learn_20Java_3f

If this doesn't address your question, let me know what's missing and I'll
add it to the page.

- Oliver
 

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