Java Source For Asymmetric Key Ciphers

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Roedy Green

You'll note I don't have goooooooogle ads sprawled on every page and
it's quite easy from the top of the page to navigate to the
downloads...

Yes, yours ARE ads and further irrelevant ads, and further big image
ads.

At least the google ads on my site are usually relevant to the topic
at hand. They are actually often USEFUL. They are just a little text
pushed off in the top left and bottom right so you can more easily
ignore them.

Yours are irrelevant to your users plopped right in the middle of your
home page. I don't have ads on the home or index pages other than a
comment about the source of the site master image.

Running a website like mine takes huge amounts of work that nobody
sees, like several hours a day doing the very boring work of
researching and replacing dead links, validating HTML, cross-indexing
etc.

The website now just barely pays its ISP bills. I don't get any money
for the labour I put into creating the content. It infuriates me when
you equate me with some spammer. My website is a gift to the Java
community.

Further your malicious, deliberate and unapologetic butchering of the
English language infuriates me. You may not like me or my website,
and you may think me an incompetent idiot for answering the wrong
question who is motivated purely by money, or perhaps your vitriol is
inspired by my politics, or you may consider my website worthless, but
that still has nothing to do with spam.

Spammer does not equate to "bad person", or "person whose post I found
useless".
 
T

Tom St Denis

stan said:
It is well-known in sci.crypt that Tom is a bully and that his very
first knee-jerk reaction is always to attack *anyone* offering to help
folks in sci.crypt with programming code of any kind.

Spamervisement websites are not "help". If you can't afford to run a
static html page without google ads ... you need to get a better job.
So, even though a lot of people are not telling him publicly to shut
up, they are likely thinking it.

Funny Stan, how many of the recent posts have you answered with your
insightful and deeply knowledgeable information base?

Just wondering because there have been dozens of threads since you last
posted and you only seem to chime in when you want to bad mouth others.


Can you say Brat? I know you can.

BTW How's the eight grade anyways? I remember when I was in it. Tough
times man! Good luck!

Tom
 
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Tom St Denis

Roedy said:
Yes, yours ARE ads and further irrelevant ads, and further big image
ads.

First off, once again I'm getting flamed and I didn't even post my url.
Luc did [and note Luc I don't blame you for the result, don't worry].
At least the google ads on my site are usually relevant to the topic
at hand. They are actually often USEFUL. They are just a little text
pushed off in the top left and bottom right so you can more easily
ignore them.

Still annoying and serve your purpose more than mine.

I don't make money off my static logos. Sure it may help SSC and Dan
out but they don't pay me to have the logos there. I do it because
they help me out. Note for a long while I didn't have any logos there.
Yours are irrelevant to your users plopped right in the middle of your
home page. I don't have ads on the home or index pages other than a
comment about the source of the site master image.

Um middle of the page? All the change/features/download links are at
the top of every page before any other content. Below the "ads" are my
news items. So if you go there only to read the news [which few people
do] then yeah sorry there are "ads" there. But most just want the damn
download page.
Running a website like mine takes huge amounts of work that nobody
sees, like several hours a day doing the very boring work of
researching and replacing dead links, validating HTML, cross-indexing
etc.

You sir can be replaced by a carefully written shell script.
The website now just barely pays its ISP bills. I don't get any money
for the labour I put into creating the content. It infuriates me when
you equate me with some spammer. My website is a gift to the Java
community.

Probably, I dunno. All I know is the link you offered had nothing to
do with the OP question and had advertisements on it.
Further your malicious, deliberate and unapologetic butchering of the
English language infuriates me. You may not like me or my website,
and you may think me an incompetent idiot for answering the wrong
question who is motivated purely by money, or perhaps your vitriol is
inspired by my politics, or you may consider my website worthless, but
that still has nothing to do with spam.

Maybe. Eitherway I suggest since your site *is* commercial that you
think carefully about linking to it.

Tom
 
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Luc The Perverse

Tom St Denis said:
Yes, yours ARE ads and further irrelevant ads, and further big image
ads.

First off, once again I'm getting flamed and I didn't even post my url.
Luc did [and note Luc I don't blame you for the result, don't worry].

Well that is reassuring.

But if you are interested in my opinion - I will say that Roedy is a good
guy and does a lot for comp.lang.java.programmer - it is another group that
I actively patrol.

Maybe you initially mistook his post for a spam message - because it was not
an answer to the original question - which is understandable. However - the
fact is that the vast majority of Roedy's posts are helpful - and I
personally welcome links to his site.

You more than anyone should know how frustrating it can be getting flamed
for trying to help someone.

Can't we all just get along?
 
S

stan

Spamervisement websites are not "help". If you can't afford to run a
static html page without google ads ... you need to get a better job.

You're an idiot and a bully and there is nothing wrong with Roedy's
site http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html


He offers a lot of helpful things pertaining to Java and a lot of
other things that are related.


There is actually more ad space on your ugly site than his, which is
not particularly surprising you lard-assed hypocrite.


Even if there wasn't, he has a couple of tiny non-obtrusive ads that
are completely tolerable. When you take into consideration all of the
good stuff inside his site, it is quite an accomplishment, really.


You yelling at Roedy Green about his site is like a turd yelling at a
beautiful sunset.
 
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Juuso Hukkanen

Roedy Green wrote:

You sir can be replaced by a carefully written shell script.

Tom, you are brainfarting[1].
http://groups.google.fi/groups?enc_...SW03hNjtg4qiWgu0ccM7HvtkWBcvG3RWw9M&scoring=d

Picture a java-guy coming to sci.crypt shouting David Wagner to be a
troll.

Those who have eaten enough rice might say:
- Select your adversaries with care.
- Choose your fights carefully
- Don't get into a fight unless it is worth it

Be a gentleman and apologize

Juuso


[1]
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Brainfart&defid=548672#548672
 
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Tom St Denis

William said:
I feel like I should apologise for the on-topic post...

This is sci.crypt at it's best. Feuding and fighting because everyone
is so sensitive that their "feelings" might be hurt. Gotta tip-toe
around and watch out for their "feelings" wouldn't want to hurt their
"feelings". Gotta make sure their "feelings" are ok.

:)

Ohhhhhh yeah!

Tom
 
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Tom St Denis

Juuso said:

Gah? I post a lot too. Does that make me smart or otherwise
insightful? I'd hope not.
Picture a java-guy coming to sci.crypt shouting David Wagner to be a
troll.

I didn't start the cross-post flame war, it was always burning ...
[damn 80s!]
Those who have eaten enough rice might say:
- Select your adversaries with care.
- Choose your fights carefully
- Don't get into a fight unless it is worth it

Be a gentleman and apologize

I say sir, I say sir, I do believe I shan't apologize.

What say you, duel at 10 paces on morrow's eve?

Tom
 
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Juuso Hukkanen

I say sir, I say sir, I do believe I shan't apologize.

What say you, duel at 10 paces on morrow's eve?

Tom

No can do, I just read an another Sun Tzu chapter and find it better
to arrange the duel between those seek a fight.

What say you about a duel Tom Vs. "merits of NTRU" on #sci.crypt at
some planetary time tomorrow.

Namely, I sense William Whyte also to be interested / High lighting /
Advertizing / and discussing the topic. Noticed him saying earlier in
this thread:
I agree with Tom that this isn't the right thread to get into a
discussion of the merits of NTRU; I just wanted to point out that I
disagree with him on whether or not patenting a technology is always
counterproductive.

In addition NTRU has been advertized on this channel earlier (2000),
in a way which can be seen as "spam"! (But that is understandable
since it was the wild year 2000).
http://groups.google.fi/group/sci.c...c00a7d02feb/f5afeb38f3cfa6f4#f5afeb38f3cfa6f4

So, has something changed, what are the prospects and threads for NTRU
technology (QC - prospects?). Any What are the benefits. What other
vulnerable concerns there are . Who and why should implement NTRU. I
am certain that that many would have interest for that 'duel'. Of
cause the warning notice should be placed, cause the products can be
roughly and even unfairly treated at this channel.

Shall I set the duel ready ? (cheap tickets & popcorns available)

Juuso


ps. did you get my private messages?
 
F

Fat Nerd

Juuso said:
Roedy Green wrote:


You sir can be replaced by a carefully written shell script.


Tom, you are brainfarting[1].
http://groups.google.fi/groups?enc_...SW03hNjtg4qiWgu0ccM7HvtkWBcvG3RWw9M&scoring=d

Picture a java-guy coming to sci.crypt shouting David Wagner to be a
troll.

Those who have eaten enough rice might say:
- Select your adversaries with care.
- Choose your fights carefully
- Don't get into a fight unless it is worth it

Be a gentleman and apologize

Juuso


[1]
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Brainfart&defid=548672#548672


You want Tom to be a gentleman and apologise? Impossible. He is
mentally incapable of such a feat. He has stated this repeatedly.

He has admitted often that this is part of the reason why he is
overweight, and finds it difficult to make it with the ladies.
 
J

Juuso Hukkanen

You want Tom to be a gentleman and apologise? Impossible. He is
mentally incapable of such a feat.

You sir, seem like a cheap liar. Tom is well capable for apologizing
Google "I apologize"
http://groups.google.fi/groups?hl=f...AD_wLBs_5-bxpZLsupvpyYMOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A

In addition if you google him saying sorry:
http://groups.google.fi/groups?hl=f...AD_wLBs_5-bxpZLsupvpyYMOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A

49 sorry results! (which is about 49 times more than you have ever
posted - isn't it). Are you by any chance one of those numerous
anonymous lurkers who have been following #sci.crypt for a long time
and feel angered by Toms and Joe posting critical comments.

Juuso
 
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Chris Uppal

Tom said:
First off, once again I'm getting flamed and I didn't even post my url.
Luc did [and note Luc I don't blame you for the result, don't worry].

For the sake of completeness I should point out that it was I who posted the
URL.

I wish I hadn't now. In fact I wish I had never become even peripherally
involved in what appears to be yet another Usenet cesspit.

-- chris
 
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Juuso Hukkanen

Tom said:
First off, once again I'm getting flamed and I didn't even post my url.
Luc did [and note Luc I don't blame you for the result, don't worry].

For the sake of completeness I should point out that it was I who posted the
URL.

I wish I hadn't now. In fact I wish I had never become even peripherally
involved in what appears to be yet another Usenet cesspit.

-- chris

Cesspit, (thanks for that word). No... no way If you refer to my
proposal of a discussion duel about Tom Vs. "merits of the NTRU", the
idea is not to degrade or glorify a product - just to discuss. NTRU
has vountarely attempted to gain publicity using #sci.crypt and Dr.
Whyte is a worthy representer of their technology. However since NTRU
is a commercial product they can't use newsgroups for advertizing a
product in a way businesses often would like. On the other hand
regulars have expressed interest and opinions about NTRU... Solution
is to invite a discussion. Ok, #sci.crypt is the second most hostile
place on earth, so it is bit risky. Also, if NTRU dares to accept the
invitation, I will bonus-post a "patent spoiler", which the company
might find highly amusing.

Juuso Hukkanen
(to reply by e-mail set addresses month and year to correct)

ps. No, the "patent spoiler" is not about the NTRU ;-)
 
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Luc The Perverse said:
Hi - I'm looking for HFE and NTRU java source code.

I don't want to pay for these libraries, because I'm not going to make a
product with them, I only want to read through the algorithms and "play"
with them. I have trouble understanding the algorithm by reading a pper,
and have a better chance of understanding if reading code.

Are they available anywhere for free?
For NTRU, see sourceforge.net/projects/ntru
 

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