Job Offer in Paris, France : R&D Engineer (Plone)

H

Huron

Hi all,

Sopinspace, Society For Public Information Spaces (specialized in Web-based
citizen public debate and collaborative initiatives) is looking for a new
developer / R&D engineer with strong Plone focus.
The position is located in Paris, France (11eme).

All details (in french) can be found here :
http://www.sopinspace.com/company/poste_ing.pdf
contact : emploi <*at*> sopinspace <-dot-> com

Best,
 
P

Paul Rubin

Huron said:
Sopinspace, Society For Public Information Spaces (specialized in Web-based
citizen public debate and collaborative initiatives) is looking for a new
developer / R&D engineer with strong Plone focus.
The position is located in Paris, France (11eme).

All details (in french) can be found here :
http://www.sopinspace.com/company/poste_ing.pdf contact : emploi
<*at*> sopinspace <-dot-> com

Since you're posting in English, is there any point in responding
to it in English, and are non-Europeans eligible?
 
H

Huron

Since you're posting in English, is there any point in responding
to it in English, and are non-Europeans eligible?

I'm afraid not. The team is too small to welcome remote work at the present
time ... I was posting in english mainly to avoid beeing flag as spam ...
and because I though I might be a good thing to let the community know that
they are such profile wanted.

- RB
 
B

Bengt Richter

Since you're posting in English, is there any point in responding
to it in English, and are non-Europeans eligible?

It says, "bonne maîtrise de l'anglais écrit et parlé (toute autre langue sera un plus)"
so good mastery of English written and spoken is the main language requirement (stated, that is ;-)
But "capacité de dialoguer avec des usagers non techniques et tous les membres de l'équipe"
probably means French too ;-)

Regards,
Bengt Richter
 
H

Huron

It says, "bonne maîtrise de l'anglais écrit et parlé (toute autre langue
sera un plus)" so good mastery of English written and spoken is the main
language requirement (stated, that is ;-) But "capacité de dialoguer avec
des usagers non techniques et tous les membres de l'équipe" probably means
French too ;-)

quite a good deduction ;-)
 
P

Paul Rubin

Huron said:
I'm afraid not. The team is too small to welcome remote work at the present
time ...

Working remotely hadn't occurred to me ;-). I was wondering

1) whether there would be legal or procedural obstacles for a
non-European wanting to work in Paris for a while; and

2) whether it was mandatory to be able to speak and write in French (I
can do so, but very badly for now). I'm sure you will get lots of
good French-speaking candidates though.
 
H

Huron

Working remotely hadn't occurred to me ;-). I was wondering
1) whether there would be legal or procedural obstacles for a
non-European wanting to work in Paris for a while; and
If you are a member of the EU (the netherlands ?), there no such problem on
our side. Only _you_ would have some paperwork to do.
2) whether it was mandatory to be able to speak and write in French (I
can do so, but very badly for now).
I would say that it is mandatory to speak a bit and to be willing/able to
lean ... but this is not _mandatory_ to speak perfectly. This should not
stop you if you're interested.
(A test could be : whether or not you understand the position description
pdf.)
I'm sure you will get lots of good French-speaking candidates though.
Dont be too sure of that ;-) ... and dont hesitate to apply if you are
interested.

Best,

- RB
 
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Paul Rubin

Huron said:
If you are a member of the EU (the netherlands ?), there no such problem on
our side. Only _you_ would have some paperwork to do.

I'm in the US and have no EU papers. Still feasible?
I would say that it is mandatory to speak a bit and to be willing/able to
lean ... but this is not _mandatory_ to speak perfectly. This should not
stop you if you're interested.
(A test could be : whether or not you understand the position description
pdf.)

I can understand the main points but I had to figure out some parts
from context. I had a good French class many years ago and could read
French pretty well at that time, and could converse ok if the other
person was a little bit patient. I've forgotten most of it since
then, but I expect (or hope) that it would come back.

Another issue: I have most of the qualifications in the pdf (I've been
involved with free software for a long time and am a former FSF staff
member, I'm knowledgeable about web server implementation and web
applications, and I'm pretty good with Python), but I've never used
Zope or Plone. I do have a strong interest in collaborative web site
implementation but have been wanting to code something with higher
performance than what I see the traditional LAMP architecture as
capable of.
Dont be too sure of that ;-) ... and dont hesitate to apply if you are
interested.

If you still think this, I'd be interested in chatting a little
further. Does the email address in the pdf go to you? If not, should
I write you directly? Can I call on the phone (you can leave me a
number at http://paulrubin.com)? Thanks.
 
H

Huron

If you still think this, I'd be interested in chatting a little
further. Does the email address in the pdf go to you? If not, should
I write you directly? Can I call on the phone (you can leave me a
number at http://paulrubin.com)? Thanks.

done, we will get in contact in a more private fashion now ;-)
 
E

Erik Max Francis

Paul said:
If you still think this, I'd be interested in chatting a little
further. Does the email address in the pdf go to you? If not, should
I write you directly? Can I call on the phone (you can leave me a
number at http://paulrubin.com)? Thanks.

Do you even realize you're having this conversation over the Python
mailing list/newsgroup, rather than by private email?
 
T

Terry Reedy

Erik Max Francis said:
Do you even realize you're having this conversation over the Python
mailing list/newsgroup, rather than by private email?

Did you consider asking *that* question privately ;-?

Anyway, I am willing to give long-term contributors a bit a slack once in a
while. I am certainly happy for anyone who gets an improved Python-related
job.

Terry J. Reedy
 
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Paul Rubin

Terry Reedy said:
Did you consider asking *that* question privately ;-?

Hehe, good comeback. Seriously, I figured enough other clpy people
might have the same questions I did that I felt correct in using the
newsgroup.
 
T

Terry Hancock

If you are a member of the EU (the netherlands ?), there no such problem on
our side. Only _you_ would have some paperwork to do.

Europeans have been tearing Americans to shreds over our "parochialism",
it's amusing to see them succomb to the same faults now that they are
convinced they are the economic center of the universe, isn't it?

I guess the foot's on the other hand now. ;-D
 

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