Jobs Section of Website

Discussion in 'HTML' started by techwiz@stx.rr.com, Aug 9, 2004.

  1. Guest

    I need to create (unless a simple template exists) a section of a
    website that will allow the HR people to post, edit and delete jobs,
    and for the viewers to reply via email. Nothing fancy.

    All I want is essentially what you see here on usenet - you see a
    subject line of all the topics, and then you can open the topic and
    read the text in your browser. The browser will automatically insert
    the email hyperlink, just like it does on usenet. The only built in
    parameters might be for message length and margins, I don't want it to
    do anything else. Type face should be a default, and it should have a
    grey background.

    Any clues? Or if I've missed something please advise. Thanks!
    , Aug 9, 2004
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  2. Toby Inkster Guest

    techwiz wrote:

    > Any clues?


    You will want a server-side scripting language. With access to one and
    knowledge of it, such a task is not difficult.

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    Toby Inkster, Aug 10, 2004
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  3. Guest

    I have neither. I asked for a clue so I did get that - Sir, could you
    be more specific?

    Or anyone?

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:03:10 +0100, Toby Inkster
    <> wrote:

    >techwiz wrote:
    >
    >> Any clues?

    >
    >You will want a server-side scripting language. With access to one and
    >knowledge of it, such a task is not difficult.
    , Aug 11, 2004
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  4. Mark Parnell Guest

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:02:53 -0500, <> declared in
    alt.html:

    > I have neither. I asked for a clue so I did get that - Sir, could you
    > be more specific?


    How can we be more specific? What server-side languages do you have
    available to you? If none, it really can't be done. Or you need to get
    yourself a decent host.

    --
    Mark Parnell
    http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
    "Never drink rum&coke whilst reading usenet" - rf 2004
    Mark Parnell, Aug 11, 2004
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  5. wrote in news:713jh09lhmuo50jh8drj532bvp5db24jiu@
    4ax.com:
    > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:03:10 +0100, Toby Inkster
    > <> wrote:
    >>
    >>You will want a server-side scripting language. With access to one and
    >>knowledge of it, such a task is not difficult.

    >
    > I have neither. I asked for a clue so I did get that - Sir, could you
    > be more specific?
    >


    It's not an uncommon task, and there are plenty of freeware and shareware
    solutions about - of varying quality of course.

    http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Scripts_and_Programs/Classified_Ads/Employmen
    t/index.html

    may give you a start.

    I'd recommend that as this is your first encounter with scripting, you go
    with php rather than the various other options - there's a wider choice of
    hosting and more online help than anything else you might use.

    If your current hosting already supports any of the options, it's most
    likely to have php.

    What you want is actually simple enough that you could learn to do it
    yourself quite quickly, but I find it's easiest to learn by fiddling with
    what other people have done first, and it may give you some ideas too.

    Victoria
    Victoria Clare, Aug 11, 2004
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  6. Karl Groves Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:03:10 +0100, Toby Inkster
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > >techwiz wrote:
    > >
    > >> Any clues?

    > >
    > >You will want a server-side scripting language. With access to one and
    > >knowledge of it, such a task is not difficult.

    >
    > I have neither. I asked for a clue so I did get that - Sir, could you
    > be more specific?
    >
    > Or anyone?
    >


    If you don't have a server with something like PHP, ASP, JSP, Perl, etc.
    then get one
    If you don't have the knowledge of how to implement your desired feature
    with one of the above server-side scripting languages, then hire someone who
    does.

    -Karl
    Karl Groves, Aug 11, 2004
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  7. On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:02:53 -0500,
    <> wrote:

    >I have neither. I asked for a clue so I did get that - Sir, could you
    >be more specific?


    You'll need something like PHP or Perl support on your server. Most likely
    with MySQL support, so you can store the jobs in the database.

    I guess, there are job script available on site like hotscripts.com ,
    or so, but I'm not sure, since I wrote my own script when I needed one.

    Ciao,
    Andreas
    Andreas Rueckert, Aug 11, 2004
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  8. Guest

    Thanks so much for your input.

    I must be really out of touch.

    Doesn't anyone us just plain, old HTML anymore?


    On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:05:42 +0100, Victoria Clare
    <> wrote:

    > wrote in news:713jh09lhmuo50jh8drj532bvp5db24jiu@
    >4ax.com:
    >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:03:10 +0100, Toby Inkster
    >> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>You will want a server-side scripting language. With access to one and
    >>>knowledge of it, such a task is not difficult.

    >>
    >> I have neither. I asked for a clue so I did get that - Sir, could you
    >> be more specific?
    >>

    >
    >It's not an uncommon task, and there are plenty of freeware and shareware
    >solutions about - of varying quality of course.
    >
    >http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Scripts_and_Programs/Classified_Ads/Employmen
    >t/index.html
    >
    >may give you a start.
    >
    >I'd recommend that as this is your first encounter with scripting, you go
    >with php rather than the various other options - there's a wider choice of
    >hosting and more online help than anything else you might use.
    >
    >If your current hosting already supports any of the options, it's most
    >likely to have php.
    >
    >What you want is actually simple enough that you could learn to do it
    >yourself quite quickly, but I find it's easiest to learn by fiddling with
    >what other people have done first, and it may give you some ideas too.
    >
    >Victoria
    , Aug 11, 2004
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  9. Toby Inkster Guest

    techwiz wrote:

    > Doesn't anyone us just plain, old HTML anymore?


    Yes, but that would be totally useless for what you want.

    --
    Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
    Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
    Toby Inkster, Aug 11, 2004
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  10. Default User Guest

    wrote:
    >
    > Thanks so much for your input.
    >
    > I must be really out of touch.
    >
    > Doesn't anyone us just plain, old HTML anymore?


    Please don't top-post.

    When (and pray tell how) was HTML ever suitable for the things you want
    to do?




    Brian Rodenborn
    Default User, Aug 11, 2004
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  11. Karl Groves Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Thanks so much for your input.
    >
    > I must be really out of touch.
    >
    > Doesn't anyone us just plain, old HTML anymore?


    First, stop top posting

    Second, if you're a masochist, then by all means code all of your listings
    with HTML.

    -Karl
    Karl Groves, Aug 12, 2004
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  12. Webcastmaker Guest

    In article <>,
    lid says...
    > > Doesn't anyone us just plain, old HTML anymore?

    > When (and pray tell how) was HTML ever suitable for the things you want
    > to do?


    How would he know? That's basically the question he was asking
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    Webcastmaker, Aug 12, 2004
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  13. Guest

    Before all these new tools existed, when the Internet was new, all
    there was - was HTML.

    It wasn't that long ago..

    I should have paid more attention back then - there were jobs sections
    of companies back then, so blissfully simple. Somehow they worked.

    Does anyone here remember that old technology?

    On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:04:50 +0100, Toby Inkster
    <> wrote:

    >techwiz wrote:
    >
    >> Doesn't anyone us just plain, old HTML anymore?

    >
    >Yes, but that would be totally useless for what you want.
    , Aug 12, 2004
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  14. Mark Parnell Guest

    On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:58:42 -0500, <> declared in
    alt.html:

    > I should have paid more attention back then - there were jobs sections
    > of companies back then, so blissfully simple. Somehow they worked.


    Yes, they were updated by the developer. Anyone who wanted to post a job
    gave it to the web developer, who added it to the page manually. Feel
    free to do it that way if you want.

    BTW: Please don't post upside-down.
    http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

    --
    Mark Parnell
    http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
    "Never drink rum&coke whilst reading usenet" - rf 2004
    Mark Parnell, Aug 12, 2004
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  15. Jeff Thies Guest

    wrote:

    > Before all these new tools existed, when the Internet was new, all
    > there was - was HTML.


    Perl's been around a long time. Still works fine too.

    Tasks like this have usually been done server side, and that goes way
    back into the '90's. The widespread use of databases on the net some 5
    years ago has just made this easier.

    Jeff
    Jeff Thies, Aug 12, 2004
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  16. Toby Inkster Guest

    techwiz wrote:

    > Before all these new tools existed, when the Internet was new, all
    > there was - was HTML.


    When the Internet was new, there was no HTML.
    Birth of Internet - circa 1969.
    Birth of HTML - circa 1990.

    > I should have paid more attention back then - there were jobs sections
    > of companies back then, so blissfully simple. Somehow they worked.
    > Does anyone here remember that old technology?


    Manually -- copy and paste.

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    Toby Inkster, Aug 12, 2004
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  17. wrote in news:er4lh0t53l0j7g4p3ki0bapmenefs636e3@
    4ax.com:

    > Doesn't anyone us just plain, old HTML anymore?


    Well, yes, but HTML is just a markup system - it can't actually do anything
    - it just says 'this is a heading' 'this is a para' within a preexisting
    document. To create or delete documents on the fly, you need something
    else.

    If your HR department is going to edit a plain-html website, they will need
    a basic understanding of HTML coding and FTP. I used to believe that this
    was within most people's capabilities, but the evidence has forced me to
    change my mind!

    If you think you saw a similar system long ago that didn't use php or asp,
    I would wager a reasonably large sum that the thing doing the work of
    adding pages as required was either:

    a) a perl script

    or

    b) a human being.

    Perl scripts are widely available if you want to use them - most people
    find php easier to get started with though, which is why I suggested it.

    Your HR department should be able to source a human being themselves.
    However, I think you'll find that technology has rather high ongoing costs
    in comparison with a simple php solution, or even a Perl script!

    Victoria
    Victoria Clare, Aug 12, 2004
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  18. Andy Dingley Guest

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 17:20:47 -0500, wrote:

    >I need to create (unless a simple template exists) a section of a
    >website that will allow the HR people to post, edit and delete jobs,
    >and for the viewers to reply via email. Nothing fancy.


    Fancy is good, if it's cheaper than home-cooked plain. _Download_
    (don't write) something like phpBB (a full-featured chat board) and
    turn off all the features that don't look like a noticeboard. It's
    easier and (more importantly) less buggy than trying to write your own
    from scratch.
    Andy Dingley, Aug 12, 2004
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  19. Guest

    Back in 96 I put a web site together in about an hour using word and
    netscape that received all kinds of compliments from people that did
    web sites for a living.. I guess that isn't done anymore.

    On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:10:08 +0100, Toby Inkster
    <> wrote:

    >techwiz wrote:
    >
    >> Before all these new tools existed, when the Internet was new, all
    >> there was - was HTML.

    >
    >When the Internet was new, there was no HTML.
    >Birth of Internet - circa 1969.
    >Birth of HTML - circa 1990.
    >
    >> I should have paid more attention back then - there were jobs sections
    >> of companies back then, so blissfully simple. Somehow they worked.
    >> Does anyone here remember that old technology?

    >
    >Manually -- copy and paste.
    , Aug 12, 2004
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  20. Guest

    I downloaded it. Interesting program, thanks for the tip!

    I'd love to see some examples.

    On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:09:17 +0100, Andy Dingley
    <> wrote:

    >On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 17:20:47 -0500, wrote:
    >
    >>I need to create (unless a simple template exists) a section of a
    >>website that will allow the HR people to post, edit and delete jobs,
    >>and for the viewers to reply via email. Nothing fancy.

    >
    >Fancy is good, if it's cheaper than home-cooked plain. _Download_
    >(don't write) something like phpBB (a full-featured chat board) and
    >turn off all the features that don't look like a noticeboard. It's
    >easier and (more importantly) less buggy than trying to write your own
    >from scratch.
    , Aug 12, 2004
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