link open new window

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Jukka K. Korpela

SeeSchloss said:
Why the hell do you want to remove the menus ??

Who knows what John Doe has got in his www.google.com file?

Aren't we expected to help people to shoot theirselves on the foot?
To be really helpful in that, we should advice that this particular thing
is not possible in HTML but could be done in JavaScript. To shoot on the
other foot too, use an image of Google and use onclick for it to open the
new window instead of ugly links.
 
F

floortje

John Doe said:
Thank you for answering my question :)

Btw, why do you think this is such a bad idea ?
Cause it usually irritates the crap out of me. Unless I find ur page really
interesting I usually dont bother with sites that have links like that.
 
J

John Doe

Say I have a link like this

<a href="www.google.com"> Google </a>

How can I open this in a new window without the menu's and go back\go
forward buttons ?

Cheers :)
 
S

SeeSchloss

Après mure réflexion, "John Doe" a écrit :
Thank you for answering my question :)

Btw, why do you think this is such a bad idea ?

Well links to websites in windows without any navigation
buttons are really annoying, and I don't stay there very
long. Anyway when I find one, I disable javascript only to
have menus and buttons.
 
W

Whitecrest

Thank you for answering my question :)
Btw, why do you think this is such a bad idea ?

Because some "experts" are really anal about their browsers. Where the
general public could care less. Proof of this is the fact that more
than 80% of the public uses IE when there are other (disputed) better
browsers out there.
 
S

SeeSchloss

"John Doe" a pensé très fort :
Well I was gonna use it to open a window with a series of
pictures with a last picture, next picture and close window
button included. Anyway, it was just a though.

Well do what you want, but I just let you know that I don't
like it too much and won't help you to do it :p
 
P

PeterMcC

Whitecrest said:
Because some "experts" are really anal about their browsers. Where
the general public could care less. Proof of this is the fact that
more than 80% of the public uses IE when there are other (disputed)
better browsers out there.

You may well be right about new windows, I don't know; however, the fact
that more than 80% of the public uses IE, inferior browser or not, isn't
very convincing as a proof that new windows are a good thing.
 
J

John Doe

Jukka K. Korpela said:
Who knows what John Doe has got in his www.google.com file?

Aren't we expected to help people to shoot theirselves on the foot?
To be really helpful in that, we should advice that this particular thing
is not possible in HTML but could be done in JavaScript. To shoot on the
other foot too, use an image of Google and use onclick for it to open the
new window instead of ugly links.

Thank you for answering my question :)

Btw, why do you think this is such a bad idea ?
 
D

Daniel R. Tobias

John said:
Say I have a link like this

<a href="www.google.com"> Google </a>

It would open up a local document on your server with the filename
"www.google.com" or give a 404 Not Found error if none existed (assuming
your server is configured in a typical manner). If you want to have a
link to the actual Google site, you'd need to include the "http://" part.
How can I open this in a new window without the menu's and go back\go
forward buttons ?

How can I stay the hell away from annoying sites like yours that want to
do stuff like that?
 
W

Whitecrest

You may well be right about new windows, I don't know; however, the fact
that more than 80% of the public uses IE, inferior browser or not, isn't
very convincing as a proof that new windows are a good thing.

I agree, it shows no proof if they are a good thing or not. What it
shows is that people don't care.
 
D

DU

SeeSchloss said:
Well links to websites in windows without any navigation buttons are
really annoying, and I don't stay there very long. Anyway when I find
one, I disable javascript only to have menus and buttons.

Mozilla-based browsers (and some other popup killer softwares like
proxomitron) have setting which will neutralize and sterilize javascript
the turning off of windowFeatures (toolbars or window feature). In this
case, (Mozilla):

user_pref("dom.disable_window_open_feature.menubar", true);
user_pref("dom.disable_window_open_feature.toolbar", true);
etc..

DU
--
Javascript and Browser bugs:
http://www10.brinkster.com/doctorunclear/
- Resources, help and tips for Netscape 7.x users and Composer
- Interactive demos on Popup windows, music (audio/midi) in Netscape 7.x
http://www10.brinkster.com/doctorunclear/Netscape7/Netscape7Section.html
 
J

John Doe

SeeSchloss said:
Après mure réflexion, "John Doe" a écrit :

Well links to websites in windows without any navigation
buttons are really annoying, and I don't stay there very
long. Anyway when I find one, I disable javascript only to
have menus and buttons.


Well I was gonna use it to open a window with a series of pictures with a
last picture, next picture and close window button included. Anyway, it was
just a though.
 
D

DU

John said:
Well I was gonna use it to open a window with a series of pictures with a
last picture, next picture and close window button included. Anyway, it was
just a though.

If you were serious about searching this issue, you would not have asked
this in this newsgroup. Every single day, there is a question on
secondary window in alt.html and comp.lang.javascript newsgroups. Just
search "Pop up technique" and "controlling browser window size and bars"
threads posted in the last 10 days in this newsgroup and you'll get answers.
I personally answered a single specific difficulty related to popup
windows at least 25 times in the last 2 years in 2 newsgroups and I'm
convinced people do not spend more than 5 min. researching for answers.

People also trust blindly javascript copy-N-paste sites and this is
where they usually get the worse possible (non compliant, buggy, crappy,
anti-accessibility, counter-usability code jabbering in invalid markup
code) scripts.

DU
--
Javascript and Browser bugs:
http://www10.brinkster.com/doctorunclear/
- Resources, help and tips for Netscape 7.x users and Composer
- Interactive demos on Popup windows, music (audio/midi) in Netscape 7.x
http://www10.brinkster.com/doctorunclear/Netscape7/Netscape7Section.html
 
D

David Dorward

John said:
Well I was gonna use it to open a window with a series of pictures with a
last picture, next picture and close window button included.

Its quite possible that people might want to bookmark a page, or get the URL
of a specific image to send to a friend, or print an image, or save one, or
use the extended back menu to skip a few images at once?
 
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Andrew Davidson

John Doe said:
Btw, why do you think this is such a bad idea ?

Let's turn the question around.....

Why do you think it's a good idea to:
- disable the back button;
- disable the forward button;
- remove the menus.

Hint: Why are those items there in the first place?
 
A

Andrew Davidson

Whitecrest said:
I agree, it shows no proof if they are a good thing or not. What it
shows is that people don't care.

No. What it shows is that, if they care, they do not know how to express their
concern (or that they express their concern in ways that do not get reported to
the web author).
 
B

brucie

If it is evil or not makes no difference. The fact is, 80% of them use
it anyway.

you mean the guess, not the fact, is 80%.

20% knows how bad IE is so 80% of the internet population are ignorant
morons because only ignorant morons would use IE knowing how bad it
is.

isn't it wonderful the stuff you can make up and present as fact?
 

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