Link vs Hyperlink

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  1. JohnW

    JohnW Guest

    What, if any, is the difference between a link and a hyperlink?

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    JohnW, Aug 11, 2005
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  2. JohnW

    Mark Parnell Guest

    Previously in alt.html, JohnW <> said:

    > What, if any, is the difference between a link and a hyperlink?


    The letters h-y-p-e-r. ;-)

    Seriously though - in what context? On a web page?

    IMO *hyperlinks* would be the links on a page that you follow to get to
    another file (e.g. another web page, image, video, etc.). *Links* are
    any link at all to another file - this includes hyperlinks, but would
    also include things like <link> elements - to stylesheets and
    next/previous page etc. Can't think of any other examples off the top of
    my head, but I'm sure there are plenty.

    HTH

    BTW: Your .sig delimiter is broken. It should be two dashes then a
    space, not three dashes.

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    Mark Parnell, Aug 12, 2005
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    Neredbojias Guest

    With neither quill nor qualm, JohnW quothed:

    >
    > What, if any, is the difference between a link and a hyperlink?
    >


    Valium.

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    Neredbojias, Aug 12, 2005
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    Toby Inkster Guest

    JohnW wrote:

    > What, if any, is the difference between a link and a hyperlink?


    The chain attached to a ship's anchor isn't made of hyperlinks.

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    Toby Inkster, Aug 12, 2005
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  5. JohnW

    dorayme Guest

    > From: Toby Inkster <>
    >
    > JohnW wrote:
    >
    >> What, if any, is the difference between a link and a hyperlink?

    >
    > The chain attached to a ship's anchor isn't made of hyperlinks.
    >

    But... it could be.... at a stretch...

    dorayme
     
    dorayme, Aug 13, 2005
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    Andy Dingley Guest

    On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:49:43 GMT, JohnW <> wrote:

    >What, if any, is the difference between a link and a hyperlink?


    1. A terminology question. There is no formal difference.

    2. I don't know. This is bugging me now - I have a surprisingly large
    library of pre-web academic publications on hypertext and in not one of
    them can I find the term "hyperlink". However I also can't date the
    first use of this term.

    TBL's famous "first web page" of November 1990 talks about "hypertext
    links", not hyperlinks.
    (ref Sean Palmer's http://infomesh.net/html/history/early/)

    The etymology of hyperlink is clearly "hypertext link", i.e. links
    between hypertext pages. It does _not_ imply some "hyper" form of
    existing links in hypertext systems. It has been suggested that
    hyperlinks were a development of links already existing in hypertext
    systems, but they were extended to link between pages rather than just
    within a page (this is clearly false as it's pretty much the definition
    of hypertext that it can link multiple documents). It has also been
    suggested that hyperlinks were the first links that could bridge
    heterogeneous systems. This is refuted in Roy Rada's "Hypertext: from
    text to expertext" (Mc Graw Hill, 1991) which includes many example sof
    cross-system linking in flat namespaces yet never mentions hyperlinks.
    This is itself a fascinating read - a summary of state-of-the-art in
    pre-web hypertext, completely missing the newly appeared web (and pretty
    much ignoring the internet and gopher, which is less excusable).


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    Andy Dingley, Aug 15, 2005
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  7. JohnW

    JohnW Guest

    On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:01:10 +0100, Andy Dingley
    <> wrote:

    >On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:49:43 GMT, JohnW <> wrote:
    >
    >>What, if any, is the difference between a link and a hyperlink?

    >
    >1. A terminology question. There is no formal difference.
    >
    >2. I don't know. This is bugging me now - I have a surprisingly large
    >library of pre-web academic publications on hypertext and in not one of
    >them can I find the term "hyperlink". However I also can't date the
    >first use of this term.
    >
    >TBL's famous "first web page" of November 1990 talks about "hypertext
    >links", not hyperlinks.
    >(ref Sean Palmer's http://infomesh.net/html/history/early/)
    >
    >The etymology of hyperlink is clearly "hypertext link", i.e. links
    >between hypertext pages. It does _not_ imply some "hyper" form of
    >existing links in hypertext systems. It has been suggested that
    >hyperlinks were a development of links already existing in hypertext
    >systems, but they were extended to link between pages rather than just
    >within a page (this is clearly false as it's pretty much the definition
    >of hypertext that it can link multiple documents). It has also been
    >suggested that hyperlinks were the first links that could bridge
    >heterogeneous systems. This is refuted in Roy Rada's "Hypertext: from
    >text to expertext" (Mc Graw Hill, 1991) which includes many example sof
    >cross-system linking in flat namespaces yet never mentions hyperlinks.
    >This is itself a fascinating read - a summary of state-of-the-art in
    >pre-web hypertext, completely missing the newly appeared web (and pretty
    >much ignoring the internet and gopher, which is less excusable).
    >


    Thank you, Andy. Sorry I got you bugged but I have lived in the
    marketing world for years where the choice and use of words is
    important for effective communications.

    I had almost given up on this Usenet - prior comments on my simple
    question were all immature slams.

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    JohnW, Aug 16, 2005
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    Safalra Guest

    JohnW wrote:
    > [snip discussion of the difference between 'link' and 'hyperlink']
    > I had almost given up on this Usenet - prior comments on my simple
    > question were all immature slams.


    Seems much like the real world to me. You quickly learn who to ignore
    once you've been around for a while. Don't give up on Usenet though, it
    has a wealth of useful information and advice, one you get past the
    jokers, flamers, spammers, people whose English seems to be a
    collection of words chosen at random from a dictionary, and so on...

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    Safalra, Aug 16, 2005
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  9. JohnW

    Guest

    A hyperlink must be clicked. A link is a call to a server, within a web
    page, that is *not* clicked.

    <embed src="http://foo.com"> is a link.

    <img src='"http://foo.com/foo.gif"> is a link.

    <a href="http://foo.com"> foo</a> is a hyperlink.

    <a href="#"> foo</a> is a hyperlink.

    A hyperlink is usually a link, but a link does not have to be a
    hyperlink.
     
    , Aug 18, 2005
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  10. JohnW

    Safalra Guest

    wrote:
    > A hyperlink must be clicked.


    Only if you're using a mouse. The enter key is just as effective in the
    major browsers.

    > A link is a call to a server, within a web
    > page, that is *not* clicked.


    I think what you're getting at is that (under your definition) the user
    can perform an action on a hyperlink to take them somewhere, whereas a
    link just refers to another location and does not have to respond to
    user actions.

    The problem with that definition is that a form submit button then
    counts as a hyperlink. I think a better definition would be that a
    hyperlink occurs within the normal flow of text (so uses the <a>
    element) whereas a link need not (so includes the <link> element, for
    example).

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    Safalra, Aug 18, 2005
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