META redirect question

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Steve R.

Mr. Bill wrote in message ...
Uhhhh why should I be ticked off.

When you reply you should leave at least some of the message you are
replying to in your reply, by snipping out the irrelevant info and posting
your reply below, (as all the others have done here), and as I have done to
your post.

Otherwise we have no idea in a long thread who you are replying to and what
you are replying to, as your posts don't always end up following the post
you are replying to..

Please read ...
How to post replies in a newsgroup....
http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
 
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Mr. Bill

So how come no-one's ticked off Mr Bill for not replying *correctly* on
Usenet.

A reply to my own post. I see where I might have confused someone by not
replying to a quoted snippet. I am soooooo sorry for the inconvienience!

Mr. Bill
 
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Mr. Bill

Learn to use OE properly.

Thanks, I would have thought the original poster of the complaint would have
known how to use the threadding capabilities of his news reader, but
apparently not.

Mr. Bill
 
P

PeterMcC

I stand corrected fine person, is this better for you?

You don't think that you're going to get out of it that easily do you? It's
too late now, you're just going to have to take a ticking off.

:)
 
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Steve R.

Mr. Bill wrote in message ...
I stand corrected fine person, is this better for you?

'Tis better for *everybody*

Normally these guys jump on you like a 'ton of bricks' for posting
*incorrectly*, that's why I was surprised no-one had commented before :~)
 
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picayunish

brucie said:
in post: <


don't use anything client side to redirect people, always do it server
side where it works, doesn't annoy search engines and the correct client
request redirect responses are sent.




so you're trying to hide the redirection? thats not very honest.




yes but i'm not going to tell you. anyone who would want to know only
wants to use the knowledge for evil, not good.

In that case read this article.
http://www.apromotionguide.com/doorways.html
 
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Mr. Bill

Otherwise we have no idea in a long thread who you are replying to and
what
you are replying to, as your posts don't always end up following the post
you are replying to..

Again, sorry for the inconvienience. I shall attempt to observe proper form
in the future. It is just that my newsreader tracks replys properly and I
have never had the problems you encounter. All of the threads are properly
organized and I have always been able to follow them with no problem.

Now that I know of the shortcommings of other readers I shall attemt to make
life easier for those readers,

Mr. Bill
 
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Mr. Bill

You don't think that you're going to get out of it that easily do you?
It's
too late now, you're just going to have to take a ticking off.

:)

Well if you are ticked off at me then maybe others will have an easier time
today. :)
 
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Steve R.

Richard wrote in message ...
Learn to use OE properly.

Who were you replying to then Richard, as your post didn't make sense?

Even using threaded view it was not possible to work out who *some* of Mr
Bill's posts were replying to, specifically the one posted Saturday,
January 24, 2004 2:12 AM as it was stuck out in mid-air in threaded view.
 
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Eric Bohlman

Again, sorry for the inconvienience. I shall attempt to observe
proper form in the future. It is just that my newsreader tracks
replys properly and I have never had the problems you encounter. All
of the threads are properly organized and I have always been able to
follow them with no problem.

Now that I know of the shortcommings of other readers I shall attemt
to make life easier for those readers,

It's not really a newsreader issue; it's a news transport issue. Posts
arrive on different news servers at different times via different paths, so
the list of posts that my news server delivers to my newsreader at any
given time will be different from the one that your news server will
deliver to your newsreader.

It's often the case, for example, that A will post a reply to B's post, but
when C (on a different news server) goes to read news, A's reply will have
already arrived but B's original post won't have gotten there yet. If A
didn't put some context in his reply, C won't know what it's replying to.
It's just a consequence of the fact that news servers, unlike Web servers,
are highly distributed; unlike Web sites, where everybody is accessing
pages from the same place and will therefore see the same list of pages,
with news everybody is accessing posts from different places, places that
can take from minutes to days to sync up.
 
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Mr. Bill

Two questions:

1. Does everybody use "Premade" PHP scripts?

2. Do all servers support PHP?

Thanks all,

Mr. Bill
 
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Mr. Bill

It's often the case, for example, that A will post a reply to B's post, but
when C (on a different news server) goes to read news, A's reply will have
already arrived but B's original post won't have gotten there yet. If A
didn't put some context in his reply, C won't know what it's replying to.
It's just a consequence of the fact that news servers, unlike Web servers,
are highly distributed; unlike Web sites, where everybody is accessing
pages from the same place and will therefore see the same list of pages,
with news everybody is accessing posts from different places, places that
can take from minutes to days to sync up.



Thank you for the information. You see, even though I have been using
usenet for many years, I have now once again learned something I didn't
know. I suppose it is because usually when I post, I don't come back for a
length of time... which apparently, in the past has been long enough to not
encounter the problem.

Once again, thanks for the information. I love this place!

Mr. Bill
 
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Cameron

Mr. Bill said:
Two questions:

1. Does everybody use "Premade" PHP scripts?

2. Do all servers support PHP?

Thanks all,

Mr. Bill

No, not all servers support PHP and how can everyone use premade php
scripts if no one wrote them then no one could use them ;)

~Cameron
 
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Mr. Bill

No, not all servers support PHP and how can everyone use premade php
scripts if no one wrote them then no one could use them ;)

You have a point there my friend. Sort of a stupid question the way is was
phrased. I should have asked... it it the most common practice to use
premade PHP scripts.

How do I find out then if a server supports PHP? Just give it a shot and
see? Or do I call someone at the hosting service (or contact them via the
net of course).

Mr. Bill
 
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Cameron

Mr. Bill said:
You have a point there my friend. Sort of a stupid question the way is was
phrased. I should have asked... it it the most common practice to use
premade PHP scripts.

How do I find out then if a server supports PHP? Just give it a shot and
see? Or do I call someone at the hosting service (or contact them via the
net of course).

Mr. Bill

hmm you could create a file with a php extention e.g. index.php with...

<?php
phpinfo();
?>

in it and then go to the url as if you were visiting any website, if it
supports php you will see loads of information about the installed
version of PHP


and also, people that don't know how to write PHP, or don't know how to
do a particular thing in PHP, or just dont want to, may use premade PHP
scripts, but I will always write my own.

~Cameron
 
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Mr. Bill

and also, people that don't know how to write PHP, or don't know how to
do a particular thing in PHP, or just dont want to, may use premade PHP
scripts, but I will always write my own.

Oh Boy!

Another thing to learn! There is sooo much! Maybe in a while (a relatively
long while) I can be of help to someone!

Thanks Cameron

Mr. Bill
 
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Mr. Bill

hmm you could create a file with a php extention e.g. index.php with...

<?php
phpinfo();
?>

in it and then go to the url as if you were visiting any website, if it
supports php you will see loads of information about the installed
version of PHP

Okay, I am assuming then that this file would go into the body of an HTML
page for the purposes of the test, then up load it onto the server, then go
to the URL and see all of the information you speak of which will prove the
server supports PHP.

Another question comes to mind then. How do you test your PHP scripts
before up loading them to a server? I would guess the server could be
emulated on a PC for composing and testing purposes?
 
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Cameron

Mr. Bill said:
Okay, I am assuming then that this file would go into the body of an HTML
page for the purposes of the test, then up load it onto the server, then go
to the URL and see all of the information you speak of which will prove the
server supports PHP.

Another question comes to mind then. How do you test your PHP scripts
before up loading them to a server? I would guess the server could be
emulated on a PC for composing and testing purposes?

Well I run FreeBSD unix with Apache, MySQL and PHP installed, but that's
not exactly the easy way to go about building a site, you can get PHP
for IIS or you can get Apache for windows and PHP for either of these.

~Cameron
 

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