Carl Howells wrote:
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My view isn't based on this thread. This thread just reinforced it. I
formed my view after another thread, several years ago.
The crowd waits, breathless, for the evidence.
If you care, it was a thread in which you claimed everything on the
internet was copyrighted,
It is. You just don't understand copyright law. Under current law, the act
of publishing confers a copyright to any work not already copyrighted. The
former and the latter are therefore both copyrighted.
Source:
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html
Quote:
"Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, and a work is
'created' when it is fixed in a copy or phonorecord for the first time."
You are entirely, completely, wrong.
and I pointed out that there were a small
number of exceptions,
Yes, there are exceptions, none posted on the Internet, and not the case you
suggested, and my original point was all Internet content is copyrighted
automatically by virtue of its posting.
literary works available online for which the
copyright had long since expired.
An expired copyright is a copyright! My God, this is your example? Works
that are in the public domain are still copyrighted, that is the basis of
their being in the public domain. The way you establish that a work is in
the public domain is by looking up the copyright. In fact, that is the only
way.
Q. "Can I copy this document without permission"?
A. "First, you must be sure it is in the public domain."
Q. "How do I do that?"
A. "Look up the copyright."
Q. "What if there is no copyright?"
A. "Then by publishing it, you create one."
All. Published. Works. Are. Copyrighted.
There are two possibilities for Internet content:
1. A work that is already copyrighted when it is posted. Such a work is
copyrighted in advance of its posting.
2. A work that is not already copyrighted when it is posted. Such a work is
copyrighted through being posted.
Anyway, I'm as unlikely to change my mind as you are,
I just proved you wrong again, and no, your chances to argue me out of a
trivial legal fact are slight.
and arguing will get us nowhere.
No, but evidence works wonders. You were and are wrong about copyrights,
your only evidentiary example.
As such, any further participation in this thread on my
part will be strictly on-topic.
Too late for that. But an opportunity to educate yourself about copyright
law waits, dormant, as it has for years.
I cannot imagine you have spent years fuming about this imagined slight when
you could instead have done a 30-second Google search.
Now, folks, watch Mr. Howells fail to acknowledge his error.