Mozilla 1.6 and tables

Discussion in 'HTML' started by Luigi Donatello Asero, Feb 15, 2004.

  1. Luigi Donatello Asero, Feb 15, 2004
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  2. Luigi Donatello Asero

    GD Guest

    Luigi Donatello Asero <> wrote:

    > Does Mozilla 1.6 support tables?


    Yes.

    > I can see the table with the regions of Italy with IE 6.0 even if I make the
    > window smaller without scrolling it but I cannot do the same with Mozilla
    > the page in question is
    > http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test5.html


    It might have something to do with the missing <tr> tag near the bottom,
    after the 'Sicilien' link.

    The page is broken so the claim that it's 'valid HTML 4.01' is not true.

    I think the problem is simple enough to expect Mozilla to overcome it
    though. Maybe it's because Mozilla's in strict mode that it's being more
    fussy?

    Either way, try fixing the table (or email the webmaster and ask them to
    fix it)
     
    GD, Feb 15, 2004
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  3. Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

    > Does Mozilla 1.6 support tables?


    <sarcasm>No. They decided to drop tables.</sarcasm>

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    Toby A Inkster, Feb 15, 2004
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  4. "GD" <> skrev i meddelandet
    news:...
    > Luigi Donatello Asero <> wrote:
    >
    > > Does Mozilla 1.6 support tables?

    >
    > Yes.
    >
    > > I can see the table with the regions of Italy with IE 6.0 even if I make

    the
    > > window smaller without scrolling it but I cannot do the same with

    Mozilla
    > > the page in question is
    > > http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test5.html

    >
    > It might have something to do with the missing <tr> tag near the bottom,
    > after the 'Sicilien' link.
    >
    > The page is broken so the claim that it's 'valid HTML 4.01' is not true.
    >
    > I think the problem is simple enough to expect Mozilla to overcome it
    > though. Maybe it's because Mozilla's in strict mode that it's being more
    > fussy?
    >
    > Either way, try fixing the table (or email the webmaster and ask them to
    > fix it)

    I am building the website myself and
    I fixed the table but the problem has not been solved yet.
    I also checket it up and the page is HTML 4.01 strict and CSS valid now.
    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...charset=(detect automatically)&doctype=Inline
    http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test5.html
    So, what about
    Mozilla supporting tables?
    Should I use lists instead?

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    http://www.italymap.dk
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    Luigi Donatello Asero, Feb 15, 2004
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  5. On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:55:41 +0000, Toby A Inkster wrote:

    > Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
    >
    > <sarcasm>No. They decided to drop tables.</sarcasm>


    But how committed are they?

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    but there are far too many nonsense-spouting anarchists or idiots who
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    Owen Jacobson, Feb 15, 2004
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
    > ...
    > I can see the table with the regions of Italy with IE 6.0 even if I make the
    > window smaller without scrolling it but I cannot do the same with Mozilla
    > the page in question is
    > http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test5.html



    Mozilla 1.4 doesn't want to wrap your hyphenated words. I'd call that a
    bug. The table won't get any smaller than the longerst word. Maybe a way
    to put a 'hidden' space in next to the hyphens like <span
    style="font-size: 1%;">&nbsp;</span> or a special way to indicate it?
     
    Paul Furman, Feb 15, 2004
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    Tracy M Guest

    Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
    > "GD" <> skrev i meddelandet
    > news:...
    >
    >>Luigi Donatello Asero <> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Does Mozilla 1.6 support tables?

    >>
    >>Yes.
    >>
    >>
    >>>I can see the table with the regions of Italy with IE 6.0 even if I make

    >>

    > the
    >
    >>>window smaller without scrolling it but I cannot do the same with

    >>

    > Mozilla
    >
    >>>the page in question is
    >>>http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test5.html

    >
    > I am building the website myself and
    > I fixed the table but the problem has not been solved yet.
    > I also checket it up and the page is HTML 4.01 strict and CSS valid now.
    > http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...charset=(detect automatically)&doctype=Inline
    > http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test5.html
    > So, what about
    > Mozilla supporting tables?
    > Should I use lists instead?
    >

    some of your words in the table have hyphens eg Friuli-Venezia-Giulia.
    IE wraps them to make the table cell smaller, mozilla / netcape doesn't
    so the cell is forced wider.
    Perhaps lists would be more appropriate though. A table implies there is
    some sort of relationship between rows *and* columns.

    Tracy.
     
    Tracy M, Feb 15, 2004
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  8. "Tracy M" <> skrev i meddelandet
    news:...
    >
    >
    > Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
    > > "GD" <> skrev i meddelandet
    > > news:...
    > >
    > >>Luigi Donatello Asero <> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>Does Mozilla 1.6 support tables?
    > >>
    > >>Yes.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>I can see the table with the regions of Italy with IE 6.0 even if I

    make
    > >>

    > > the
    > >
    > >>>window smaller without scrolling it but I cannot do the same with
    > >>

    > > Mozilla
    > >
    > >>>the page in question is
    > >>>http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test5.html

    > >
    > > I am building the website myself and
    > > I fixed the table but the problem has not been solved yet.
    > > I also checket it up and the page is HTML 4.01 strict and CSS valid now.
    > >

    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...charset=(detect automatically)&doctype=Inline
    > >

    http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test5.html
    > > So, what about
    > > Mozilla supporting tables?
    > > Should I use lists instead?
    > >

    > some of your words in the table have hyphens eg Friuli-Venezia-Giulia.
    > IE wraps them to make the table cell smaller, mozilla / netcape doesn't
    > so the cell is forced wider.
    > Perhaps lists would be more appropriate though. A table implies there is
    > some sort of relationship between rows *and* columns.
    >
    > Tracy.


    One way is to write the word without the hyphen
    http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test7.html

    I saw that Trentino Alto Adige is written in both ways
    http://www.regione.taa.it/


    I could also try to shape a relationship between columns and rows by
    inserting headers for the columns, for example
    "l├Ąge" (position) huvudstad ( capital or main town) number of provinces in
    every region and do everything with a table.
    Otherwise I could shape lists with the name of all the regions which are
    situated in a certain part of Italy but how do you put the headers for the
    lists?
    Do you just use <h2> and the like?
    Another possibility would be to have the names of the regions in the main
    menu on the left.

    --
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    http://www.italymap.dk
    http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/presentartiklar.html
     
    Luigi Donatello Asero, Feb 15, 2004
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    Alan Wood Guest

    Paul Furman <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
    > > ...
    > > I can see the table with the regions of Italy with IE 6.0 even if I make the
    > > window smaller without scrolling it but I cannot do the same with Mozilla
    > > the page in question is
    > > http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/test5.html

    >
    > Mozilla 1.4 doesn't want to wrap your hyphenated words. I'd call that a
    > bug. The table won't get any smaller than the longerst word.


    I reported this as a Mozilla bug ages ago:

    http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95067

    If you want it fixed, then please sign up to Bugzilla, add your
    comments, and vote for it.

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    Alan Wood, Feb 16, 2004
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