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To say that it is not the only consideration is not self
righteous, it is just a salute in the direction of self respect...
I believe the OP has left the building...LOL.
Daniel
http://a-ok-site.com
To say that it is not the only consideration is not self
righteous, it is just a salute in the direction of self respect...
I believe the OP has left the building...LOL.
You can be as self-righteous as you want. You can advise against
something all day, but if the client wants it and it's legal, give it
to him or be prepared to lose the business.
Anyone who has any kind of business sense knows that it's cheaper and
easier to keep a customer than find a new one.
To say that it is not the only consideration is not self
righteous, it is just a salute in the direction of self respect...
Neredbojias said:Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:28:02
GMT SAZ scribed:
There is no disagreement with that statement. The discussion is about
whether to do it regardless for other reasons, and legal is not always
ethical or just.
How profound. But how cheap do you sell yourself to keep that customer?
Been using it for years. While you're at it remove that even nastier
produce Real One Player and replace with Real Alternative
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm
Cheap is relative. My clients pay me $75/hour to do whatever they want.Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:28:02
GMT SAZ scribed:
There is no disagreement with that statement. The discussion is about
whether to do it regardless for other reasons, and legal is not always
ethical or just.
How profound. But how cheap do you sell yourself to keep that customer?
cwdjrxyz said:Yes, if Real 11 available for your OS, you should remove Real One now,
even if you like it, because the Real 11 is just out of beta where it
had been for some time.
customer?
Just how high and mighty do you think you are?
This whole thread is about background music on one of the pages of one
of my clients.
That's a little cheesy, but it hardly means I've sold
myself cheaply. Now, I've listened to that music I resisted, and I've
come to the conclusion that if it makes my client and her visitors
happy (it's a metaphysical type site) than why not.
Why should she, her
clients, or myself care if you want to throw a righteous hissy fit.
Cheap is relative. My clients pay me $75/hour to do whatever they want.
Neredbojias said:Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:23:20
GMT Jeff scribed:
5'8", 155lbs. of pure piss-powered man-meat. Hell, I could tie
Schwarzeneggar in a knot before he had time to move if I hit him below
the belt.
Not exactly, but in any case my reply was to a message about giving the
client what he wants.
Because as I implied and Harlan Messinger stated more directly, there are
other considerations. However, it doesn't mean you "sold yourself
cheaply", either. I was speaking in general terms with that.
Perhaps one or more of them are members of Hissy Fittists Anonymous. Who
knows?
6'6" 225lbs.
No, you were proselytizing when it was specifically requested that
you
stay on the sidelines unless you had something technical to
contribute.
Just leave it be. Does this always have to degenerate into
personality conflicts?
Call it what you may. But don't you see how this drives people away
from an html group when they get more attitude than answers? All the
longest threads are like that.
We all know where each other is coming
from, it's not like we're covering new ground.
There's a few authoring and design issues I'd like to discuss, but
it's hard breaking any new ground when you are treated like a heretic.
I'd rather save the energy.
Perhaps I just don't have the patience for this anymore.
Neredbojias said:Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:07:39
GMT Jeff scribed:
Ho, a big 'un! How's the weather up thare?
Proselytizing isn't illegal, and in this case, my client (me) wanted to
do it. Furthermore, professing one's beliefs isn't detrimental to
humanity when those beliefs are true and valid.
What personality conflict? Do you believe that your personality is in
conflict with my personality?
even know me well. However, I know you well enough to see that you seem
to grasp onto the nearest trite cliche, slogan, or dogma to express
yourself.
Sure, that's pretty accurate. But their expectations of a helpdesk are
rather unrealistic, anyway, and as I said before, the answerers are here
for reasons of their own as well. I enjoy helping people sometimes but
I'm not going to kiss their asses to do it and I am going to express my
opinions as I, not they, see fit. If they don't like it, let them take a
hike.
As big as you are physically, you sound rather weak in spirit.
Perhaps. Or perhaps you're just tired of the bullshit.
getting old, too. (Look at what happened to Blinky.) Btw, you shrink
when you age if you haven't already noticed.
I think the old line is I'll spit in your eye and you'll know it's
raining up here.
I really don't have a problem with that. I read a few technical
groups and it's expected for people to research before they post.
Taking OPs down that don't is fair game.
Mostly. I've got a lot to do and don't have the time for this. Surely,
you've bee there?
Neredbojias said:But when the smoke
clears and the money rolls in, it seems like it's all worth it.
I understand you earn big money at web related things. Good for
you. I make my money in another way:
In Australia at the beaches, there are are public showers. For
water conservation reasons, the local councils have button taps
on them, these must be kept pressed for the water to flow. They
are small and smooth and the tiles or stainless steel sheeting
behind them are smooth too (precluding any easy jamming device).
It is very hard to keep the shower going without a human finger.
I employ an army of little boys and girls (these little suckers I
pay absolute peanuts to) to offer swimmers, for a small fee, to
hold the button that keeps the public showers going. It is a big
money spinner and as a result, I am able to offer my web services
completely for free.
"[email protected] said:And you are proud of exploiting children?
I understand you earn big money at web related things. Good for
you. I make my money in another way:
In Australia at the beaches, there are are public showers. For
water conservation reasons, the local councils have button taps
on them, these must be kept pressed for the water to flow. They
are small and smooth and the tiles or stainless steel sheeting
behind them are smooth too (precluding any easy jamming device).
It is very hard to keep the shower going without a human finger.
I employ an army of little boys and girls (these little suckers I
pay absolute peanuts to) to offer swimmers, for a small fee, to
hold the button that keeps the public showers going. It is a big
money spinner and as a result, I am able to offer my web services
completely for free.
And you are proud of exploiting children?
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