My Site is Awful :(

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DJS2C

Sorry to burst in as a lurking newb :( I will be around and Hi Im James a
young designer from the south coast (UK). I used to post on alt.rave but as
im out the sence for a while (hard to explain)

:( im Learning HTML / CSS / DWeaver / etc so I can make a music site for a
Record / VJ Label. I was a print / advertsing designer for a fair old while
also.

Anyway to practise im making sites for people and this site was fine in DW04
on my Mac and I havn't learnt so much code yet...which is the reason I think
it's all over the place now iv uploaded it.

Links dont change colour, Contact formating is wrong, contact nav bar is
shifted , source code looks terrible and Has load of Validation errors :(
Any help would be sweet

www.ukcleaningcontractors.com

Thank You

James
 
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Starshine Moonbeam

DJS2C said:
Sorry to burst in as a lurking newb :( I will be around and Hi Im James a
young designer from the south coast (UK). I used to post on alt.rave but as
im out the sence for a while (hard to explain)

:( im Learning HTML / CSS / DWeaver / etc so I can make a music site for a
Record / VJ Label. I was a print / advertsing designer for a fair old while
also.

Anyway to practise im making sites for people and this site was fine in DW04
on my Mac and I havn't learnt so much code yet...which is the reason I think
it's all over the place now iv uploaded it.

Links dont change colour, Contact formating is wrong, contact nav bar is
shifted , source code looks terrible and Has load of Validation errors :(
Any help would be sweet

www.ukcleaningcontractors.com

Thank You

James

404
 
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Dan Ruscoe

Sorry to burst in as a lurking newb :( I will be around and Hi Im James a
young designer from the south coast (UK). I used to post on alt.rave but as
im out the sence for a while (hard to explain)

:( im Learning HTML / CSS / DWeaver / etc so I can make a music site for a
Record / VJ Label. I was a print / advertsing designer for a fair old while
also.

Anyway to practise im making sites for people and this site was fine in DW04
on my Mac and I havn't learnt so much code yet...which is the reason I think
it's all over the place now iv uploaded it.

Links dont change colour, Contact formating is wrong, contact nav bar is
shifted , source code looks terrible and Has load of Validation errors :(
Any help would be sweet

www.ukcleaningcontractors.com

http://www.ukcleaningcontractors.co.uk ?

You don't really need Dreamweaver for a basic site like that. It can all
be hand-coded in plain HTML and CSS, and without validation errors.

Plus, you wouldn't have this rubbish:

<td>&nbsp;</td> </tr> <tr> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td width="301">
&nbsp;</td> <td width="208">&nbsp;</td> <td width="124">&nbsp;
</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> </tr> <tr> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;
</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>
&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td>
 
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Neal

DJS2C said:
Links dont change colour, Contact formating is wrong, contact nav bar is
shifted , source code looks terrible and Has load of Validation errors :(
Any help would be sweet

www.ukcleaningcontractors.com

A few immediate points:

1) alt is for the text you want in place of the image when it doesn't
load. Right now your alt text is more like title text. If the image is
text, use the text of the image for alt.

2) Text as image is bad. IE cannot resize it, so you shut out many
visual-impaired customers. And your large image as text has NO alt, so
without the image all your copy is lost. Oh, and BTW, your logo has a
spelling error. The text below could easily have been regular text, which
is easy to fix, but now you have to edit the image.

3) And why the links don't change? They're images. You don't need images
for these links, use text instead. Regular anchor links with text will
have color according to whether it's visited or not.

Here's an example of your code which isn't terribly good.

<p class="title">Welcome to the UKCC Web Site</p> <p>We are an
expanding company supplying cleaning and ironing services </p> <p>to
many households across the south.<br> Our clients rely on us to
provide honest and reliable cleaners</p>

Here's how you ought to code it.

<h1>Welcome to the UKCC Web Site</h1>
<p>We are an expanding company supplying cleaning and ironing services to
many households across the south. Our clients rely on us to provide honest
and reliable cleaners.</p>

All that white space you use is collapsed anyhow. Using the heading markup
is better HTML and better SEO too - use CSS to change the look of the
heading if you prefer. The breaks are not needed, allow the text to wrap
as it will. If you absolutely need one between the sentences in the
paragraph ("... across the south.<br>Our clients...", ok, I'll let you ;)

If why the above is better markup isn't clear to you, ask.

Using basic markup and CSS I could do this page in perhaps a quarter of
the weight. So can you. No scripts. No images as text. Even no tables.
Give it a try.
 
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DJS2C

http://www.ukcleaningcontractors.co.uk ?

You don't really need Dreamweaver for a basic site like that. It can all
be hand-coded in plain HTML and CSS, and without validation errors.
yeh I know but im trying to lean DW (and code) so a simple site is a good
place to start..wanted to try my new computer purchases as well. I have only
had my Mac etc a few weeks.
Plus, you wouldn't have this rubbish:

<td>&nbsp;</td> </tr> <tr> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td width="301">
&nbsp;</td> <td width="208">&nbsp;</td> <td width="124">&nbsp;
</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> </tr> <tr> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;
</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td> <td>
&nbsp;</td> <td>&nbsp;</td>

yep im finding out, not sure why DW has put it all in one line either !
 
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DJS2C

Neal said:
A few immediate points:

Thank you
1) alt is for the text you want in place of the image when it doesn't
load. Right now your alt text is more like title text. If the image is
text, use the text of the image for alt.
Changed


2) Text as image is bad. IE cannot resize it, so you shut out many
visual-impaired customers. And your large image as text has NO alt, so
without the image all your copy is lost. Oh, and BTW, your logo has a
spelling error. The text below could easily have been regular text, which
is easy to fix, but now you have to edit the image.

Noted and changed the image, is now a background to a cell so I can place
the text near it. AM having difficultys lining things up if I place the text
near it I have to start making new cells as on the same line is now my text
nav bar so I cant align
3) And why the links don't change? They're images. You don't need images
for these links, use text instead. Regular anchor links with text will
have color according to whether it's visited or not.

Have changed
Here's an example of your code which isn't terribly good.

<p class="title">Welcome to the UKCC Web Site</p> <p>We are an
expanding company supplying cleaning and ironing services </p> <p>to
many households across the south.<br> Our clients rely on us to
provide honest and reliable cleaners</p>

Here's how you ought to code it.

<h1>Welcome to the UKCC Web Site</h1>
<p>We are an expanding company supplying cleaning and ironing services to
many households across the south. Our clients rely on us to provide honest
and reliable cleaners.</p>

Nice am looking at my code...
All that white space you use is collapsed anyhow.

What do you meen collapsed??

Using the heading markup
is better HTML and better SEO too - use CSS to change the look of the

SEO? not sure what that meens
 
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DJS2C

DJS2C said:
Thank you

Noted and changed the image, is now a background to a cell so I can place
the text near it. AM having difficultys lining things up if I place the text
near it I have to start making new cells as on the same line is now my text
nav bar so I cant align it?


Have changed


Nice am looking at my code...


What do you meen collapsed??

Using the heading markup

SEO? not sure what that meens

To help with content formating, keeping things spearate from each other? And
the text not wrapping was one of the things cauing me trouble , pushing my
cells around.

No tables! I have kept them for now but am implementing.

Sorry posted and didnt meen to ment to save it..Not quite finished yet. Few
new problems now lol as well.
Progress is up.

James
 

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