Need help - client's freaking

Discussion in 'HTML' started by Larry Webb, Apr 11, 2004.

  1. Larry Webb

    Larry Webb Guest

    For some reason my client's father's computer (XP - IE6) won't display
    the complete menu on his web site - it works great for everyone I have
    asked to check it out. The screen capture URL below shows how the menu
    should look but when the web site is viewed on his father's computer
    (see URL below), the top "Inventory" and bottom "Contact Us" graphics
    don't display. I can't find anything wrong - any help would be greatly
    appreciated.

    Screen capture
    http://www.daltons.com/menucapture.gif

    Web site URL
    http://www.daltons.com

    Thanks
    Larry
     
    Larry Webb, Apr 11, 2004
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  2. Larry Webb wrote:
    > For some reason my client's father's computer (XP - IE6) won't display
    > the complete menu on his web site - it works great for everyone I have
    > asked to check it out.

    <cut />
    > Web site URL
    > http://www.daltons.com


    If you get the markup to validate then this will reduce the number of
    possible errors that there could be (reduce the number of branches in
    the fault tree as it were). Scanning over the source there are some
    curious things such as:
    <LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON" HREF="favicon.ico"> in the body and table
    headings used for paragraphs. You might want to run the source through
    HTML Tidy (http://infohound.net/tidy/)
    --
    Andrew Urquhart
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    - Archive: www.google.com/groups?q=alt.html
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    Andrew Urquhart, Apr 11, 2004
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  3. Larry Webb

    Augustus Guest

    "Larry Webb" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > For some reason my client's father's computer (XP - IE6) won't display
    > the complete menu on his web site - it works great for everyone I have
    > asked to check it out. The screen capture URL below shows how the menu
    > should look but when the web site is viewed on his father's computer
    > (see URL below), the top "Inventory" and bottom "Contact Us" graphics
    > don't display. I can't find anything wrong - any help would be greatly
    > appreciated.
    >
    > Screen capture
    > http://www.daltons.com/menucapture.gif
    >
    > Web site URL
    > http://www.daltons.com


    Could be a problem with the javascript...

    My big question here would be:
    Why are you doing it this way?

    two points:
    1) You are using images for the text in the links. You might do that if you
    were using a special or different font, but you aren't... you are just using
    a standard font here.
    2) You are using javascript but there really isn't anything you are doing
    there that can't be accomplished with just plain text and CSS.

    On google, look up: CSS hover
    and related items (somebody can probably post an FAQ link)
     
    Augustus, Apr 11, 2004
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  4. Larry Webb

    Dave Patton Guest

    Larry Webb <> wrote in
    news::

    > For some reason my client's father's computer (XP - IE6) won't display
    > the complete menu on his web site - it works great for everyone I have
    > asked to check it out. The screen capture URL below shows how the menu
    > should look but when the web site is viewed on his father's computer
    > (see URL below), the top "Inventory" and bottom "Contact Us" graphics
    > don't display. I can't find anything wrong - any help would be greatly
    > appreciated.
    >
    > Screen capture
    > http://www.daltons.com/menucapture.gif
    >
    > Web site URL
    > http://www.daltons.com


    That webpage states
    "There may be a format problem with the menu on this page"
    but it should actually say
    "There is a design problem with this page" :)

    Disable image loading, and the entire menu, not just
    the "Inventory link" disappears.

    --
    Dave Patton
    Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project
    http://www.confluence.org/
    My website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/
     
    Dave Patton, Apr 11, 2004
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  5. Larry Webb

    PW Guest

    "Larry Webb" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > For some reason my client's father's computer (XP - IE6) won't display
    > the complete menu on his web site - it works great for everyone I have



    Having a brief look at the code, I can see several tags that do not have
    associated twins.
    In this section of code, the </th> tag doesn't appear to have a matching
    <th> tag anywhere, as well as the <div> next to it.
    I think you need to check the structure of the whole thing. What did you
    use to create this website ?



    <th class="bodytext">Dave
    Rudd<br>
    Debbie Goldwein Rudd<br>
    1931 James St.<br>
    Syracuse, New York 13206 <br>
    (315) 463-1568<br>
    Fax - (315) 463-1615<br>
    Email - <a
    href="mailto:"><u></u></a></a></th>
    </tr>
    </table>

    <br>
    </div></th>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <td width="1" bgcolor="#33332e"><img src="spacer.gif" width="1" height="1">
    </td>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </tbody>
    </table>
     
    PW, Apr 11, 2004
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  6. Larry Webb

    Larry Webb Guest

    Dave Patton wrote:

    > Larry Webb <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    >
    >>For some reason my client's father's computer (XP - IE6) won't display
    >>the complete menu on his web site - it works great for everyone I have
    >>asked to check it out. The screen capture URL below shows how the menu
    >>should look but when the web site is viewed on his father's computer
    >>(see URL below), the top "Inventory" and bottom "Contact Us" graphics
    >>don't display. I can't find anything wrong - any help would be greatly
    >>appreciated.
    >>
    >>Screen capture
    >>http://www.daltons.com/menucapture.gif
    >>
    >>Web site URL
    >>http://www.daltons.com

    >
    >
    > That webpage states
    > "There may be a format problem with the menu on this page"
    > but it should actually say
    > "There is a design problem with this page" :)
    >
    > Disable image loading, and the entire menu, not just
    > the "Inventory link" disappears.
    >


    I appreciate the input but who's going to visit a web site selling
    antiques with their image loading disabled.

    I agree that using css hover would be a better way to construct this
    menu but at my skill level, I don't know how to recreate the text inside
    the arts & crafts style border.

    Bottom line - does anyone else see the top and bottom links missing from
    the web site menu compared to the screen capture.

    Thanks again for helping out someone learning
    Larry
     
    Larry Webb, Apr 12, 2004
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  7. Larry Webb

    J. Codling Guest

    "Larry Webb" <> wrote in message
    news:fllec.29456$...

    [..SNIP..]
    > I appreciate the input but who's going to visit a web site selling
    > antiques with their image loading disabled.
    >
    > I agree that using css hover would be a better way to construct this
    > menu but at my skill level, I don't know how to recreate the text inside
    > the arts & crafts style border.


    That part is easy. I do the same idea as what you want on my own site. (
    www.jcodling.com ) The background is a picture but the link is text. That
    way search engines will pick up the links. The way your menu is you wouldn't
    need a background graphic. Just set the background colour to what you want.

    It may not be the easiest way but an example of the way I did it would be:
    <style>
    ..menubutton {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-size: 14px;
    color: #CCCCCC;
    background-image: url(menubutton.jpg);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    text-align: right;
    height: 26px;
    width: 180px;
    vertical-align: middle;
    padding-top: 3px;
    font-weight: bold;
    padding-right: 15px;
    }
    ..menubutton a { color:#FFFFFF } /* Colour for link */
    ..menubutton a:hover {color:#EEEEEE } /* Hover colour for link */
    </style>
    <span class="menubutton">This is a link</a>

    > Bottom line - does anyone else see the top and bottom links missing from
    > the web site menu compared to the screen capture.


    I saw them all but I agree with the other posters about the graphics
    buttons.

    > Thanks again for helping out someone learning


    I only started learning CSS about 3 weeks ago. ;o) Before I used tables for
    layout. I'll never go back!

    C i R c U i T - J. Codling - www.jcodling.com
     
    J. Codling, Apr 12, 2004
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  8. Larry Webb

    Dave Patton Guest

    Larry Webb <> wrote in
    news:fllec.29456$:

    > Dave Patton wrote:
    >
    >> Larry Webb <> wrote in
    >> news::
    >>
    >>
    >>>For some reason my client's father's computer (XP - IE6) won't display
    >>>the complete menu on his web site - it works great for everyone I have
    >>>asked to check it out. The screen capture URL below shows how the menu
    >>>should look but when the web site is viewed on his father's computer
    >>>(see URL below), the top "Inventory" and bottom "Contact Us" graphics
    >>>don't display. I can't find anything wrong - any help would be greatly
    >>>appreciated.
    >>>
    >>>Screen capture
    >>>http://www.daltons.com/menucapture.gif
    >>>
    >>>Web site URL
    >>>http://www.daltons.com

    >>
    >>
    >> That webpage states
    >> "There may be a format problem with the menu on this page"
    >> but it should actually say
    >> "There is a design problem with this page" :)
    >>
    >> Disable image loading, and the entire menu, not just
    >> the "Inventory link" disappears.
    >>

    >
    > I appreciate the input but who's going to visit a web site selling
    > antiques with their image loading disabled.


    That's easy - search engines!

    --
    Dave Patton
    Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project
    http://www.confluence.org/
    My website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/
     
    Dave Patton, Apr 12, 2004
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