need help with meta tags

Discussion in 'HTML' started by vic, May 4, 2007.

  1. vic

    vic Guest

    I recently moved and changed my ISP. This resulted in having to redo
    several web pages and uploading to my new ISP.
    I have not had my new web pages picked up by Googles search engine,
    even though I submitted them last January

    My pages were always at the top of searches on the subject search (The
    Nea Hellas, a greek steamship of the early 20th century)

    I would greatly appreciate it if I could get a critique of the meta
    tags I am using on the top of html source page copied below. Any
    suggestions or comments on improving the meta tags would greatly be
    apreciated.

    The URL of the website page is http://home.comcast.net/~idreos/MemoriesNH.htm

    Thanks for your help
    Vic




    <HTML>
    <HEAD>
    <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html;
    charset=windows-1252">
    <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="Microsoft Word 97">
    <TITLE>Memories of the Greek Line's Nea Hellas 1939-1955</TITLE>
    <META NAME="nea hellas, tuscania, greek passenger liners, ocean
    liners, greek ships, greek immigration, piraeus, greek line, greek
    americans" CONTENT="GREEK">
    <META NAME="description" CONTENT="memories of those who traveled on
    the steamship Nea Hellas and who remember her fondly">
    <META NAME="Template" CONTENT="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office
    \HTML.DOT">
    </HEAD>
    <BODY LINK="#0000ff" VLINK="#800080" BGCOLOR="#ffcc99">

    <FONT FACE="Lucida Handwriting" SIZE=6 COLOR="#0000ff"><P
    ALIGN="CENTER">Memories</P>
    <P ALIGN="CENTER">of the</P>
    </FONT><I><SUP><FONT SIZE=4><P ALIGN="CENTER">T.S.S. </I></SUP></
    FONT><FONT SIZE=6>Nea Hellas</P>
    </FONT><B><I><FONT FACE="Book Antiqua" SIZE=4 COLOR="#000080"><P
    ALIGN="CENTER">.To many millions of Greeks, the steamship Nea Hellas
    was the ship of dreams. Many of those who were looking for a piece of
    their family's distant past have been kind enough to email me their
    memories of this ship. I thank them for sharing their recollections,
    and thereby adding to her history. If you have any personal memories,
    personal photographs or memorabilia from a voyage aboard the Nea
    Hellas, Tuscania or the New York, please contact me through the email
    link at the end of this web page and I will include them in future
    updates.</P>
    <P ALIGN="CENTER">&nbsp;</P>
    </B></I></FONT><P ALIGN="CENTER"><IMG SRC=" http://home.comcast.net/~idreos/PC.jpg"
    WIDTH=570 HEIGHT=409></P>
    <FONT SIZE=4><P ALIGN="CENTER">This rare color photo is from 1956. She
    was 34 years old, and had 5 years left. The long era of trans Atlantic
    travel via steamship was coming to an end. </P>
    <P ALIGN="CENTER">&nbsp;</P>
    <P ALIGN="CENTER">&nbsp;</P>
    </FONT><B><FONT FACE="Castellar" SIZE=2 COLOR="#ff0000"><P
    ALIGN="CENTER">NEW!</P>
    </B></FONT><FONT SIZE=2 COLOR="#000080"><P ALIGN="CENTER">&nbsp;</
    FONT><B><FONT FACE="Castellar" SIZE=2 COLOR="#ff0000">We are very
    fortunate to have received a unique contribution from a German
    immigrant who came to the United States a half century ago on the
    T.S.S. New York. This generous gift is a video made from a film on a
    crossing from Bremerhaven, West Germany to New York City in October of
    1955.</P>
    <P ALIGN="CENTER">&nbsp;</P>
     
    vic, May 4, 2007
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  2. vic

    JH Guest

    > I would greatly appreciate it if I could get a critique of the meta
    > tags I am using on the top of html source page copied below. Any
    > suggestions or comments on improving the meta tags would greatly be
    > apreciated.
    >
    > The URL of the website page is http://home.comcast.net/~idreos/MemoriesNH.htm
    >
    > Thanks for your help
    > Vic
    >
    > <HTML>
    > <HEAD>
    > <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html;
    > charset=windows-1252">
    > <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="Microsoft Word 97">
    > <TITLE>Memories of the Greek Line's Nea Hellas 1939-1955</TITLE>
    > <META NAME="nea hellas, tuscania, greek passenger liners, ocean
    > liners, greek ships, greek immigration, piraeus, greek line, greek
    > americans" CONTENT="GREEK">
    > <META NAME="description" CONTENT="memories of those who traveled on
    > the steamship Nea Hellas and who remember her fondly">
    > <META NAME="Template" CONTENT="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office


    For your keywords the format should be:

    <meta name="keywords" content="nea hellas, tuscania, greek passenger
    liners, ocean liners, greek ships, greek immigration, piraeus, greek
    line, greek americans">

    HTH.
     
    JH, May 4, 2007
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  3. vic

    Ed Mullen Guest

    JH wrote:
    >> I would greatly appreciate it if I could get a critique of the meta
    >> tags I am using on the top of html source page copied below. Any
    >> suggestions or comments on improving the meta tags would greatly be
    >> apreciated.
    >>
    >> The URL of the website page is http://home.comcast.net/~idreos/MemoriesNH.htm
    >>
    >> Thanks for your help
    >> Vic
    >>
    >> <HTML>
    >> <HEAD>
    >> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html;
    >> charset=windows-1252">
    >> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="Microsoft Word 97">
    >> <TITLE>Memories of the Greek Line's Nea Hellas 1939-1955</TITLE>
    >> <META NAME="nea hellas, tuscania, greek passenger liners, ocean
    >> liners, greek ships, greek immigration, piraeus, greek line, greek
    >> americans" CONTENT="GREEK">
    >> <META NAME="description" CONTENT="memories of those who traveled on
    >> the steamship Nea Hellas and who remember her fondly">
    >> <META NAME="Template" CONTENT="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office

    >
    > For your keywords the format should be:
    >
    > <meta name="keywords" content="nea hellas, tuscania, greek passenger
    > liners, ocean liners, greek ships, greek immigration, piraeus, greek
    > line, greek americans">
    >
    > HTH.
    >

    Also, meta tags are much less important to search engines these days:
    Some simply ignore them. Two suggestions:

    1. Try to have relevant text (such as contained in your meta tags)
    appear in the actual text of the page(s)

    2. Register with Google and use Google sitemaps and include a sitemap
    file on your server

    3. Getting other sites to include links to your page(s) can also boost
    your ranking

    --
    Ed Mullen
    http://edmullen.net
    http://mozilla.edmullen.net
    http://abington.edmullen.net
     
    Ed Mullen, May 4, 2007
    #3
  4. vic wrote:

    > I recently moved and changed my ISP. This resulted in having to redo
    > several web pages and uploading to my new ISP. I have not had my new
    > web pages picked up by Googles search engine, even though I submitted
    > them last January


    Perhaps Google is confused by the two missing images (NClass2.jpg and
    foreaft.jpg), or perhaps Google can't read in your font choices of
    "Lucida Handwriting", "Castellar", or "Book Antiqua", none of which
    exist on my computer either. My browser attempts to substitute some
    other script-type font for the Lucida, and it is really hard to read.

    That said, search engines stopped reading meta keywords many years ago
    due to abuse.

    --
    -bts
    -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, May 4, 2007
    #4
  5. "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <> wrote:

    > vic wrote:
    >
    > > I recently moved and changed my ISP. This resulted in having to redo
    > > several web pages and uploading to my new ISP. I have not had my new
    > > web pages picked up by Googles search engine, even though I submitted
    > > them last January

    >
    > Perhaps Google is confused by the two missing images (NClass2.jpg and
    > foreaft.jpg), or perhaps Google can't read in your font choices of
    > "Lucida Handwriting", "Castellar", or "Book Antiqua" ...


    I must have missed something. Since when did Google (or any other search
    engine for that matter) care about fonts specified in the document? Are
    you saying the pigeons were confused?

    Since "vic" moved his pages -- changed their URL -- a more likely
    explanation for the problem is that all the sites that linked to his
    pages in their old location still do, and _don't_ link to the pages in
    the new location. Fewer links in usually means lower standings in search
    results, at least on Google. "vic" could track those pages down (using
    Google's "link:" syntax, contact the site owners and ask them to update
    their links.

    That's likely to be more effective than dorking about with font names,
    doncha think?

    --
    Joel.
     
    Joel Shepherd, May 5, 2007
    #5
  6. Joel Shepherd wrote:

    > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <> wrote:
    >> Perhaps Google is confused by the two missing images (NClass2.jpg and
    >> foreaft.jpg), or perhaps Google can't read in your font choices of
    >> "Lucida Handwriting", "Castellar", or "Book Antiqua" ...

    >
    > I must have missed something. Since when did Google (or any other
    > search engine for that matter) care about fonts specified in the
    > document? Are you saying the pigeons were confused?


    I'm sorry, I'll have to remove my tongue from the cheek in order to
    answer you. (Was just getting in a wee shot at the poor choice of
    fontfaces, and missing images.) ;-)

    > Since "vic" moved his pages -- changed their URL -- a more likely
    > explanation for the problem is that all the sites that linked to his
    > pages in their old location still do, and _don't_ link to the pages
    > in the new location. Fewer links in usually means lower standings in
    > search results, at least on Google. "vic" could track those pages
    > down (using Google's "link:" syntax, contact the site owners and ask
    > them to update their links.
    >
    > That's likely to be more effective than dorking about with font
    > names, doncha think?


    Oh, absolutely. Though it may not take long.

    "Your search - link:home.comcast.net/~idreos/ - did not match any
    documents."

    --
    -bts
    -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, May 5, 2007
    #6
  7. vic

    JB Guest

    On 4 May 2007 08:13:32 -0700, vic <> wrote:

    >I recently moved and changed my ISP. This resulted in having to redo
    >several web pages and uploading to my new ISP.
    >I have not had my new web pages picked up by Googles search engine,
    >even though I submitted them last January
    >
    >My pages were always at the top of searches on the subject search (The
    >Nea Hellas, a greek steamship of the early 20th century)
    >
    >I would greatly appreciate it if I could get a critique of the meta
    >tags I am using on the top of html source page copied below. Any
    >suggestions or comments on improving the meta tags would greatly be
    >apreciated.
    >
    >The URL of the website page is http://home.comcast.net/~idreos/MemoriesNH.htm
    >
    >Thanks for your help
    >Vic
    >

    Remember to not only give the keywords, but also tell the search
    engines to visit you again, to be able to fetch all the changes you
    did to your page in the meantime, Alos the sub-pages should be
    indexed:
    <meta name="revisit-after" content="14 days">
    <meta name="robots" content="index, follow">
    I did this on my page and it helps
    BR
    Juerg

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
     
    JB, May 5, 2007
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  8. Scripsit JB:

    > Remember to not only give the keywords, but also tell the search
    > engines to visit you again,


    That's pointless too.

    > <meta name="revisit-after" content="14 days">


    They'll laugh at you. If indexing robots could be affected that easily, they
    would become rather useless, when all competings authors would ask them to
    visit every minute.

    The only effect it _might_ reasonably have is that if an indexing robot, by
    its own criteria, decided that the page is so important and has changing
    content that it needs to be visited every week, it _might_ read the meta tag
    and think "Oh well, a fortnight's interval shall it be then".

    > <meta name="robots" content="index, follow">


    That's the default anyway, so you gain nothing.

    > I did this on my page and it helps


    No, you have no actual evidence of any effect. It's just wishful thinking,
    which would be irrelevant, but now you are telling others to do same useless
    things.

    > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


    Always a useful bogosity indicator, as is writing anonymously.

    --
    Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
    http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
     
    Jukka K. Korpela, May 5, 2007
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